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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: TimTimTimbo on September 29, 2025, 08:15:30 PM
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How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?
Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price
I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane
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Lot of very low prices Aiana G's Walner Colt went for 48,000
Economy is tanking so maybe that's one of the reason
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Economy is tanking? That's news to me. Stock market has been stable
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Time will tell but the tariffs are going to tank it as we pay the tariffs when buying stuff.
Rising tariffs / trade policy uncertainty
Tariff increases and trade conflicts are injecting uncertainty, increasing costs, and creating headwinds for supply chains.
Many industries cutting jobs
Over 50% of U.S. industries have reportedly shown declines in employment in recent months.
The Economic Times
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Dollar weakness / capital flows
The U.S. dollar has weakened significantly against other major currencies
These are major warning signs
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My favorite is Hip 4 for 800k to Martinez Equine. LOL when you see the cowboy hat you know it’s fake! Everyone knows he’s in with all those guys, most of the owners will still own her and he’ll break it off in any new owners that come into the group. Buying a yearling on day one with these guys running the set up bids is the definition of throw away money.
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If you are a day 1 buyer then the economy is most certainly not tanking for you and inflation is actually a feature not a bug
Both mares have had 5+ foals with moderate success and both were colts. Based on the video I liked the one out of Ariana G better - built more powerfully
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If you are a day 1 buyer then the economy is most certainly not tanking for you and inflation is actually a feature not a bug
Both mares have had 5+ foals with moderate success and both were colts. Based on the video I liked the one out of Ariana G better - built more powerfully
Good point on the siblings
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Economy is tanking? That's news to me. Stock market has been stable
tmbz1
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How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?
Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price
I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane
confirmation
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How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?
Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price
I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane
Watched the video, didn't love him but didn't see him in person.
I'm surprised the Stable didn't bite on him, to be honest. He must have been bad in person.
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EVERYONE THINKS THEY GOT THE NEXT WORLD BEATER AND 99.9 PERCENT ARE WRONG
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All this hoopla over the blue blood trotting fillies and their residual value after this years hambo winner had a pacing bred dam.
The wool is thick.
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Some huge prices paid for Filly trotters. One million, 900,000, & 800,000 is crazy...in my opinion. Then again it's not my money. Good luck with your purchases.
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Averages were down a bit but I actually thought this catalog was not as good as years prior, so not too surprised. Overall very strong prices
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With the new 100% business write off clause included in the new "Big Beautiful Bill,the sky has now become the limit for investors. Keys just dropped a cool million dollars for one at the select sale this week!( Anxious to see the unbelievable prices across the board when "The Big Black Book" sale is completed. tmbz1
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How much tire shine does it take to have one shine like that?
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Question of the day: This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Question of the day: This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks? Inquiring minds want to know!
Inquiring minds asked the same thing last year. They will ask again next year. But last year guns were blazing at both sales
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Question of the day: This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks? Inquiring minds want to know!
The people buying top yearlings will never run out of money. They are playing with their fun money not taking out loans or emptying their retirement funds. Mrs Key inherited over a billion when Bob passed She can continue to buy all the horses she wants and probably just using the interest with out ever touching the principal. With the 100% depreciation anyone that had a good year would be a fool not to spend all profits on another horse
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Harrisburg much better sell this year I think
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The people buying top yearlings will never run out of money. They are playing with their fun money not taking out loans or emptying their retirement funds. Mrs Key inherited over a billion when Bob passed She can continue to buy all the horses she wants and probably just using the interest with out ever touching the principal. With the 100% depreciation anyone that had a good year would be a fool not to spend all profits on another horse
You're bang on. Anyone that can spend %150k on a yearling isn't worried about loosing it. It's not the first time somebody blew some money on the prospect of a hot new stud.
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confirmation
As if this guy would know hot to choose one. Ruffolo lost a ton
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Seems to me the sport is thriving....
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It is if you race in Kentucky. Crazy money that's only going to get better. All the bigger stables are building farms there. Even people new to the business are setting up operations there. Owners of the Red Mile are sharp and know how to make the state's racing grow.
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It is if you race in Kentucky. Crazy money that's only going to get better. All the bigger stables are building farms there. Even people new to the business are setting up operations there. Owners of the Red Mile are sharp and know how to make the state's racing grow.
Two words "duel eligibility".
It will kill the grand circuit.
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Seems to me the sport is thriving....
Top end is thriving, per usual. Though I did notice some historical big spender(s) curtailing their spending pretty significantly.
Days 4 & 5 will tell you something about if 2025 follows 2024..middle to low end, the bottom fell through last year, particularly at HBG. I'm sure some of those horses went on to be decent 2yos but the breeders of anything under top- or upper-middle class sires/dams took a real bath.
Day 4 will give you a decent preview. Day 5 less so as it picks back up with OH/IN sired.
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If you haven't already, take a look at the video of the filly that has topped the sale.
Hip # 70
She looks solid, she's sharp, she floats on air and she is full of herself.
I know it's only a video, but she is fun to look at.
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Farms losing money on many Thursday
Preferred has back 4 or 5 this week, but they let one go today for 2K (hip 669)
too many mares being bred
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Two words "duel eligibility".
It will kill the grand circuit.
A big advantage for people in Indiana, Ohio, and even Illinois to buy these horses as they are closer to Kentucky. Were the sales prices higher because of this important factor?
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It is amazing how AMAC got the Ariana G colt by Walner for 48,000
The 3yo half sister by Greenshoe and the 2yo full brother both won today at The Red Mile.
Both trained by Melander which makes you also wonder why they didn't want the colt
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Time will tell but the tariffs are going to tank it as we pay the tariffs when buying stuff.
Rising tariffs / trade policy uncertainty
Tariff increases and trade conflicts are injecting uncertainty, increasing costs, and creating headwinds for supply chains.
Many industries cutting jobs
Over 50% of U.S. industries have reportedly shown declines in employment in recent months.
The Economic Time
+1
Dollar weakness / capital flows
The U.S. dollar has weakened significantly against other major currencies
These are major warning signsd ...and you believe the economy and jobs reports were accurate during the fake president's administration??????? Give me a break.
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timbo
is not hard to figure why meander did not want him
anyone can see the breeding
clearly there was a another issue he did not like about the horse
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They are what they are, if Melander wasn't interested at all has to tell you there's a big hole.
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nothing more disgusting than seeing the top breeders run up their day 1/2/and3 horses. The same rich guys keep getting scammed every year, thinking that they are bidding against another owner.
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The right product always sells well. Always has, always will. And that's the high end of the market, which was strong. If you want to see good sale or bad, just look at each session compared to the past. Session 1 was strong. This year's first session gross was down a bit from last year, but last year was the best of all time. The average was down a bit more than last year, which was also the best ever. The median was about the same, but was down substantially from the record which was the year before last. If you want to really see where the market is, don't just look at the gross, and understand that even the average can be distorted. Look at the median (relative to the #'s sold).
The high end was strong, and yes, the OBBBA has a very positive impact. If you don't think so, you didn't sign any tickets at the sale, nor did you talk to anyone who did. Now look at the last session. Down big time. Numbers were way off. The gross was down about 25%, the average about 20%, and the median was down 10%, which is very substantial. The median price was.....$18,000. Who is making money selling a yearling for $18,000. Nobody! A lot of new consigners showed up this year, and they did well, some very well.....at the high end of the market. The bottom will fall out. Nobody can make money there. There may be a market for those horses, but nobody can make money selling them.
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It is amazing how AMAC got the Ariana G colt by Walner for 48,000
The 3yo half sister by Greenshoe and the 2yo full brother both won today at The Red Mile.
Both trained by Melander which makes you also wonder why they didn't want the colt
Great point!👍👍
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Tony or Nancy. Which one had the worst meet at The Red Mile ??
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timbo
is not hard to figure why meander did not want him
anyone can see the breeding
clearly there was a another issue he did not like about the horse
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing since he hasthose 2 siblings
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tough question parked
both were irrelevant
i would say alagna just based on quantity and quality he would have started with