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Title: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 29, 2025, 08:15:30 PM
How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?

Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price

I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 29, 2025, 08:42:48 PM
Lot of very low prices Aiana G's Walner Colt went for 48,000

Economy is tanking so maybe that's one of the reason
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: goblue on September 29, 2025, 08:44:45 PM
Economy is tanking? That's news to me. Stock market has been stable
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 29, 2025, 08:52:47 PM
Time will tell but the tariffs are going to tank it as we pay the tariffs when buying stuff.

Rising tariffs / trade policy uncertainty
Tariff increases and trade conflicts are injecting uncertainty, increasing costs, and creating headwinds for supply chains.

Many industries cutting jobs
Over 50% of U.S. industries have reportedly shown declines in employment in recent months.
The Economic Times
+1

Dollar weakness / capital flows
The U.S. dollar has weakened significantly against other major currencies


These are major warning signs

Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: truthisgrey on September 29, 2025, 09:01:21 PM
My favorite is Hip 4 for 800k to Martinez Equine. LOL when you see the cowboy hat you know it’s fake! Everyone knows he’s in with all those guys, most of the owners will still own her and he’ll break it off in any new owners that come into the group. Buying a yearling on day one with these guys running the set up bids is the definition of throw away money.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on September 29, 2025, 09:15:51 PM
If you are a day 1 buyer then the economy is most certainly not tanking for you and inflation is actually a feature not a bug

Both mares have had 5+ foals with moderate success and both were colts.  Based on the video I liked the one out of Ariana G better - built more powerfully
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: TimTimTimbo on September 29, 2025, 10:00:33 PM
If you are a day 1 buyer then the economy is most certainly not tanking for you and inflation is actually a feature not a bug

Both mares have had 5+ foals with moderate success and both were colts.  Based on the video I liked the one out of Ariana G better - built more powerfully

Good point on the siblings
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Sakit on September 29, 2025, 10:04:25 PM
Economy is tanking? That's news to me. Stock market has been stable
tmbz1
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: LUCPARK on September 29, 2025, 10:23:53 PM
How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?

Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price

I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane

confirmation
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: SDST2009 on September 29, 2025, 10:25:12 PM
How the hell does a Walner colt out of hake it Cerry sell for $50,000?

Had to have conformation defects to fetch that shitty price

I have not looked at it on video or in the ring but that is insane

Watched the video, didn't love him but didn't see him in person.

I'm surprised the Stable didn't bite on him, to be honest. He must have been bad in person.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: SIX SHOOTER on September 30, 2025, 07:56:25 AM
EVERYONE THINKS THEY GOT THE NEXT WORLD BEATER AND 99.9 PERCENT ARE WRONG
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Parked on September 30, 2025, 08:47:05 AM
All this hoopla over the blue blood trotting fillies and their residual value after this years hambo winner had a pacing bred dam. 
The wool is thick. 
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: seen2much on September 30, 2025, 09:16:59 AM
Some huge prices paid for Filly trotters. One million, 900,000, & 800,000 is crazy...in my opinion. Then again it's not my money. Good luck with your purchases.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: goblue on September 30, 2025, 09:31:09 AM
Averages were down a bit but I actually thought this catalog was not as good as years prior, so not too surprised. Overall very strong prices
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Checked Up on September 30, 2025, 11:56:37 AM
With the new 100% business write off clause included in the new "Big Beautiful Bill,the sky has now become the limit for investors. Keys just dropped a cool million dollars for one at the select sale this week!( Anxious to see the unbelievable prices across the board when "The Big Black Book" sale is completed.  tmbz1


Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Hay 4 sail on September 30, 2025, 04:19:37 PM
How much tire shine does it take to have one shine like that?
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: rainman2 on September 30, 2025, 10:11:13 PM
Question of the day:  This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks?  Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Hay 4 sail on September 30, 2025, 10:27:43 PM
Question of the day:  This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks?  Inquiring minds want to know!
Inquiring minds asked the same thing last year. They will ask again next year. But last year guns were blazing at both sales
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Stan durbread on October 01, 2025, 09:21:59 AM
Question of the day:  This was only Day 1 at Lexington, will there be any money left for Harrisburg in about 5 weeks?  Inquiring minds want to know!
The people buying top yearlings will never run out of money. They are playing with their fun money not taking out loans or emptying their retirement funds. Mrs Key inherited over a billion when Bob passed She can continue to buy all the horses she wants and probably just using the interest with out ever touching the principal. With the 100% depreciation anyone that had a good year would be a fool not to spend all profits on another horse
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Artsplace1990 on October 01, 2025, 10:22:02 AM
Harrisburg much better sell this year I think
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Lance on October 01, 2025, 10:47:02 AM
The people buying top yearlings will never run out of money. They are playing with their fun money not taking out loans or emptying their retirement funds. Mrs Key inherited over a billion when Bob passed She can continue to buy all the horses she wants and probably just using the interest with out ever touching the principal. With the 100% depreciation anyone that had a good year would be a fool not to spend all profits on another horse

You're bang on. Anyone that can spend %150k on a yearling isn't worried about loosing it.  It's not the first time somebody blew some money on the prospect of a hot new stud.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: simplify on October 01, 2025, 11:56:55 AM
confirmation

As if this guy would know hot to choose one. Ruffolo lost a ton
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 01, 2025, 05:29:25 PM
Seems to me the sport is thriving....
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Locked in with pace on October 01, 2025, 05:59:35 PM
It is if you race in Kentucky. Crazy money that's only going to get better. All the bigger stables are building farms there. Even people new to the business are setting up operations there. Owners of the Red Mile are sharp and know how to make the state's racing grow.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: Kenny on October 01, 2025, 06:10:08 PM
It is if you race in Kentucky. Crazy money that's only going to get better. All the bigger stables are building farms there. Even people new to the business are setting up operations there. Owners of the Red Mile are sharp and know how to make the state's racing grow.

Two words "duel eligibility".

It will kill the grand circuit.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: SDST2009 on October 01, 2025, 10:45:31 PM
Seems to me the sport is thriving....

Top end is thriving, per usual. Though I did notice some historical big spender(s) curtailing their spending pretty significantly.

Days 4 & 5 will tell you something about if 2025 follows 2024..middle to low end, the bottom fell through last year, particularly at HBG. I'm sure some of those horses went on to be decent 2yos but the breeders of anything under top- or upper-middle class sires/dams took a real bath.

Day 4 will give you a decent preview. Day 5 less so as it picks back up with OH/IN sired.
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: darnoldrocks on October 02, 2025, 10:39:06 AM
If you haven't already, take a look at the video of the filly that has topped the sale.
Hip # 70
She looks solid, she's sharp, she floats on air and she is full of herself.
I know it's only a video, but she is fun to look at. 
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: PineHurstPacer on October 02, 2025, 03:08:02 PM
Farms losing money on many Thursday

Preferred has back 4 or 5 this week, but they let one go today for 2K (hip 669)

too many mares being bred
Title: Re: 2025 Lexington Select
Post by: rainman2 on October 02, 2025, 03:27:04 PM
Two words "duel eligibility".

It will kill the grand circuit.

A big advantage for people in Indiana, Ohio, and even Illinois to buy these horses as they are closer to Kentucky. Were the sales prices higher because of this important factor?
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