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Title: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on September 27, 2025, 12:05:25 PM
Ohio needs to test for hematocrit levels. Why are we not? Over 50 and your scratched. If its over 50 ur horse is sick, dehydrated, or epo'ed. Shouldn't be racing. Test for Hematocrit, tco2, amphetamine and opiates.  Thats it who cares about bute lasix cortisone and antibiotics
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on September 27, 2025, 12:24:31 PM
I don't disagree. The problem seems to be that the dopers have the tests beat. The ones that get caught are rarely by testing. Investigative work is what is needed...in my opinion.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: No passing lane 4U on September 27, 2025, 12:59:37 PM
The judges have failed Ohio racing over and over. They need to  special horses every night. Put the cheats in detention. Nobody's going to do anything about Burke or Morgan that's going to have to be on DEA and national level  task force.Private investigate and watch these 2 crack and crumble.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on September 27, 2025, 02:10:52 PM
I dont think you should be fined just scratched until your horses hematocrit is within range.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: AgentQ on September 27, 2025, 02:50:36 PM
I'd be at the leading barns twice a week for as long as it took to get the data necessary to boot their asses out of the game. And I'd get the Feds involved as well once the drop off in performance occurs.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Sakit on September 27, 2025, 08:50:54 PM
It's not that easy the percentags of red blood cells vary from exercise and horse to horse. Inside sources tells me they are working on it to figure it out an average before and after exercise.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on September 28, 2025, 10:36:12 AM
I didnt say blood count i said hematocrit level simple test before the race.  Test for hematocrit over 50 and the sport will change over night.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: clearmind on September 29, 2025, 01:34:28 PM
The hematocrit test is a simple blood test that measures the percentage of red blood cells in your blood. While the test itself is brief, it typically takes only a few minutes to draw blood and analyze it in a lab. The test is part of a complete blood count (CBC) and is not lengthy.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on September 29, 2025, 04:20:35 PM
It's already been figured out if the horse is a madocrit isn't within the normal range of 32 to 50 over or under they are not fit to race problem solved you eliminate EPO for performance enhancing and you also let those know with low hematocrit they need to do some work to get their horses healthy
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on September 29, 2025, 07:35:14 PM
This sounds so simple. Why are they not catching the many, many EPO users?
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 29, 2025, 07:52:17 PM
This sounds so simple. Why are they not catching the many, many EPO users?

 Prolly cause they are few and far between.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on September 29, 2025, 08:09:54 PM
Prolly cause they are few and far between.
How do explain all those arrested? They did not test positive. That would mean the testing is useless in most cases.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 29, 2025, 08:37:08 PM
You just said they're not catching that many. Now you say ALL those arrested??  Make up your mind!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Sakit on September 29, 2025, 09:55:04 PM
You just said they're not catching that many. Now you say ALL those arrested??  Make up your mind!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on September 29, 2025, 10:00:05 PM
You just said they're not catching that many. Now you say ALL those arrested??  Make up your mind!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I really need to s-p-e-l-l it out for you? Those arrested were not caught by testing.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 29, 2025, 10:22:53 PM
I really need to s-p-e-l-l it out for you? Those arrested were not caught by testing.
  I think you need to spell it out for you. You seem quite mixed up.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 30, 2025, 06:55:37 AM
I really need to s-p-e-l-l it out for you? Those arrested were not caught by testing.

You are arguing with someone who thinks the game is clean, safe your effort and ignore idiots like Pacer0
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: SIX SHOOTER on September 30, 2025, 07:52:53 AM
ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS SPORT IS CLEAN NEEDS A PALLET OF SMELLING SALTS.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on September 30, 2025, 09:13:08 AM
ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS SPORT IS CLEAN NEEDS A PALLET OF SMELLING SALTS.
The whole sport should be rebelling. No one is that far above everyone else.
I asked before if anyone knows the successful training tree to come from the Burkes?
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 30, 2025, 09:31:26 AM
You are arguing with someone who thinks the game is clean, safe your effort and ignore idiots like Pacer0

  I never said its totally clean. But its the same with politics, business, baseball, football, track, cycling, soccer and other sports . The cheaters get weeded out......
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Checked Up on September 30, 2025, 11:58:04 AM
 
ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS SPORT IS CLEAN NEEDS A PALLET OF SMELLING SALTS.
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Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Stan durbread on October 01, 2025, 09:29:48 AM
They need to forget trying to keep up with the drugs. Just use mass spectrometry pre race if something odd shows up your scratched. No fine or suspension just scratches sooner or later the dirtbag owners will leave
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 01, 2025, 09:57:18 AM
ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS SPORT IS CLEAN NEEDS A PALLET OF SMELLING SALTS.
   ANYONE WHO THINKS ANY SPORT IS CLEAN NEEDS A PALLET OF SMELLING SALTS  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: SDST2009 on October 01, 2025, 11:02:39 PM
They need to forget trying to keep up with the drugs. Just use mass spectrometry pre race if something odd shows up your scratched. No fine or suspension just scratches sooner or later the dirtbag owners will leave

This is brilliant, in theory. Not sure it's doable. I'm certain people would get ahead of it at some point; cheaters always do. Plus, the sport likely collapses entirely if this was enforced.
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: seen2much on October 02, 2025, 09:27:31 AM
Testing is a joke and has been for a long period. Pena didn't come up positive. All the arrested didn't have positive tests. You have to cheat to compete. How sad is that?
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on October 02, 2025, 03:29:00 PM
Butte lasix cortisone antibiotics none of that is cheating. Hematocrit over 55 definitely cheating. Somebody should post
Title: Re: Testing
Post by: Ramnap on October 02, 2025, 03:31:00 PM
I meant to say somebody should post louprints CBC. The one taken before the jug. Then we will all know. I know somebody out there has seen it.
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