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Title: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on September 27, 2025, 11:23:18 AM
Congratulations to the worthy inductees, both human and equine.

https://ustrottingnews.com/saratoga-honors-harness-hall-of-fame-class-of-2025/
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 09:09:54 AM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Kirby's Ace on November 14, 2025, 10:35:03 AM
Yeah thats bad. Like I said before
 Many years ago when he was at Dover probably around 87 or 88. Another horseman that I knew said he went to Mark's residents and he said his basement was like a lab loaded with stuff that Mark used for pre race concoctions! He said you wouldn't believe the set up he had!

True story!
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 14, 2025, 10:49:55 AM
Shameful. Disgusting. not suprising from this industry.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 01:04:10 PM
Shameful. Disgusting. not suprising from this industry.

And the majority of the people in the game will just keep taking it dry up the ass and let this happen. I still read people in the game including the photographer up there praising this guy like they're carrying him through the fucking streets on their shoulders. PATHETIC.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on November 14, 2025, 01:06:26 PM
Congratulations to these successful horsemen and photographer Jessica   tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 01:08:55 PM
Successful at buying EPO through Tom Guido and Lou Grasso!! Like putting El Chapo in the Pharmaceutical Hall Of Fame!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: PIGLAND on November 14, 2025, 03:53:58 PM
betwith deserves prison.

did cash me out ever win a race on hay and oats?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 14, 2025, 05:30:15 PM
For many years, I blamed the horsemen for not coming forward and ratting on cheaters. I have changed my way of thinking on that and the reason is that I know for a fact that certain people called the FBI, State Police and Attorney General and was told they needed actual evidence for them to do anything. Well, I feel that there is plenty of evidence possessed by those authorities and they have done NOTHING!!! This bullshit of testing horses is not working. Why aren't the authorities obtaining search warrants and raiding some of these criminals'homes? No one is going to convince me that there isn't enough probable cause for judges to sign off on search warrants.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: blue skies on November 14, 2025, 06:44:04 PM
This is the sentiment of 95% of the horseman in NY and Saratoga. The entire world knows that Saratoga is completely run by a criminal enterprise. One that runs from zero penalties for class A positives to manipulated draws. Putting Mark Beckwith in the hall of fame is just another reason nobody acknowledges it's foolishness. Two of the last 4 people nominated refused the nomination. So here we are. Watching Jay Randall (who deserves whatever honor there is) entering with one of the businesses greatest criminals. Horses in %50 of the barns. Non stop positive tests year after year after year for HORMONES, sheepwormer etc). One of Seth Fischmans biggest clients who still uses BB3! And Saratoga hall of fame enters someone with all of this as well as being barred from multiple tracks that are only a few hours away. Ignorance is bliss is exactly right. The people just sit back and take it. Year after year they rob the locals. Positive? Put them in Marks name. The track actually allowed them to put Melissa back down again!! How long till the testosterone shows up for the 7th time? Saratoga gets what they deserve. And the hall of fame is about as relevant as the employee of the month at Market 32.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: toothman on November 14, 2025, 06:47:32 PM
who were the two that declined nomination?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: remington on November 15, 2025, 09:32:03 AM
The horseman call Mark larceny behind his back.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on November 15, 2025, 09:43:40 AM
betwith deserves prison.

did cash me out ever win a race on hay and oats?

Cash Me Out and Prime Interest, both HOF Saratoga, started out with Mickey McGivern.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 15, 2025, 10:22:18 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on November 15, 2025, 10:26:44 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on November 15, 2025, 10:27:49 AM
 tmbz1   tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 15, 2025, 10:48:44 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.

People in this industry are one of a kind
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 10:51:49 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.

By pre racing you're admitting first he puts the horses at risk by injecting whatever garbage in their veins. Using an illegal advantage to steal from others and defraud the bettors. But, he's a great guy!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on November 15, 2025, 11:19:57 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 11:21:11 AM
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

2 times Chapter 13 equals the Cunt still has no discarge, except from between his legs.  ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on November 15, 2025, 11:25:40 AM
Mike Petrelli PreTax Driver Traner earnings ... <$5,000 in 35+ years.

No wonder his kids hate him.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 15, 2025, 11:32:55 AM
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

Disagree. Some people like me find this topic to be completely fascinating
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 11:40:14 AM
Mike Petrelli PreTax Driver Traner earnings ... <$5,000 in 35+ years.

No wonder his kids hate him.

Sure they do. Notice anything the cunt typed? My name, because unlike the cunt who doesn't pay his debts I don't hide. Type type type....STOP CRYING.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on November 15, 2025, 02:27:38 PM

  Saratoga itself is a pretty corrupt place any how
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: captain morgan on November 16, 2025, 10:23:57 AM
The horsemen love Beck. Great guy they say
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:29:03 AM
By pre racing you're admitting first he puts the horses at risk by injecting whatever garbage in their veins. Using an illegal advantage to steal from others and defraud the bettors. But, he's a great guy!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
if you ever have met him, you would think the same thing he’s a nice guy. I’m sure there’s people you have met Mike that have pre-race  horses that are very likable. I guess you’ve never pre-raced or had a veterinarian pre-race your horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:30:14 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.
I guess you’ve never have met him.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:33:02 AM
The horsemen love Beck. Great guy they say
Very nice guy. Mark has done me a couple of favors, but because he pre-race his horses I’m not supposed to like him. Thankfully, I formed my own opinions.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on November 16, 2025, 11:19:15 AM
Mark has been known to help trainers who claim off of him and can't get the horse to go, now that is unheard of in this cutthroat business. Most would tell you to enjoy eating the horse.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 12:17:04 PM
Mark has been known to help trainers who claim off of him and can't get the horse to go, now that is unheard of in this cutthroat business. Most would tell you to enjoy eating the horse.
he’s hard not to like he’s done a few favors for me as well but according to the holy Grail, if you pre-raise you’re no good.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: seen2much on November 16, 2025, 03:18:06 PM
Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 17, 2025, 09:32:44 AM
Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on November 17, 2025, 10:09:21 AM
Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?   
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Muyway on November 17, 2025, 01:13:38 PM
Doesnt melissa train Betwith horses how is mark hall of fame and take credit for wins he didnt half?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: seen2much on November 17, 2025, 01:55:49 PM
Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?
You left off Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on November 17, 2025, 03:05:39 PM
Why is there even a discussion whether someone who is cheating is directly, indirectly, tangentially, or whatever, stealing from you, or anyone else for that matter. That's the victimless crime BS. It's cheating. It hurts everyone, including the horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 18, 2025, 09:35:18 AM
You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.
You left off Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I don’t get your point. He’s never stolen from me.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 18, 2025, 11:08:57 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.

 tmbz1

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 21, 2025, 05:21:54 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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It all makes sense, now  tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 30, 2025, 07:06:44 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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It All Makes Sense Now  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Harness racer on November 30, 2025, 07:11:43 PM
Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 30, 2025, 07:22:03 PM
Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?
Eating family dinner  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 06:32:30 AM
Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?
Pacer 2 thinks this Is FAKE NEWS  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 BUT Pacer 2 KNOWS first hand  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lockedin with Pace on December 01, 2025, 06:41:54 AM
Pacer2 has had a man crush on Bret Beckwith for a long time, in his eyes he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. When you have the nerve to say something negative about him, he thinks you're jealous of the money he makes.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 06:54:56 AM
Pacer2 has had a man crush on Bret Beckwith for a long time, in his eyes he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. When you have the nerve to say something negative about him, he thinks you're jealous of the money he makes.
Im guessing there is really good reason for that...Pacer 2 ...part of the Beckwith Crime Family
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 01, 2025, 02:16:33 PM
I have no dog in this fight. Like many, while I know Brett, he's not a friend. I am all for throwing out every cheater in the sport. Period. But guilt is not decided by people on some BB. Regardless, no, not a good look. Optics not good at all. Without question. However, Brett should get condemned-----and convicted-----for this because why exactly? Was his name on the list of buyers? That's a good starting point. Any legitimate, direct proof? Saying or posting something twice or a thousand times is nothing more than one or more of a thousand things. Armchair internet police, wannabees, jealousy, and I can keep going on and on. I am not defending him. I am defending integrity, truth, and seeking it. Post something a thousand times, and that doesn't make it true. That makes it vindictive. Some guy says renew a script for so and so, and that makes so and so guilty? That's not guilt. That's hearsay.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 02:30:22 PM
I have no dog in this fight. Like many, while I know Brett, he's not a friend. I am all for throwing out every cheater in the sport. Period. But guilt is not decided by people on some BB. Regardless, no, not a good look. Optics not good at all. Without question. However, Brett should get condemned-----and convicted-----for this because why exactly? Was his name on the list of buyers? That's a good starting point. Any legitimate, direct proof? Saying or posting something twice or a thousand times is nothing more than one or more of a thousand things. Armchair internet police, wannabees, jealousy, and I can keep going on and on. I am not defending him. I am defending integrity, truth, and seeking it. Post something a thousand times, and that doesn't make it true. That makes it vindictive. Some guy says renew a script for so and so, and that makes so and so guilty? That's not guilt. That's hearsay.
I have no dog in this fight. Like many, while I know Brett, he's not a friend. I am all for throwing out every cheater in the sport. Period. But guilt is not decided by people on some BB. Regardless, no, not a good look. Optics not good at all. Without question. However, Brett should get condemned-----and convicted-----for this because why exactly? Was his name on the list of buyers? That's a good starting point. Any legitimate, direct proof? Saying or posting something twice or a thousand times is nothing more than one or more of a thousand things. Armchair internet police, wannabees, jealousy, and I can keep going on and on. I am not defending him. I am defending integrity, truth, and seeking it. Post something a thousand times, and that doesn't make it true. That makes it vindictive. Some guy says renew a script for so and so, and that makes so and so guilty? That's not guilt. That's hearsay.
Nobody is condemning Brett... the old man has had multiple positive tests in the past two years or should I say the mother and father… And all they do is switch the horses back-and-forth as trainer… If you think the transcript of the Epogen was all made up then fine keep racing against him.. the guy is barred from most tracks on the East Coast for a reason nothing to do with jealousy, armchair police or whatever… It is what it is and you think Mark Beckwith stands for integrity and truth?… Yeah OK... I guess Allard and the boys all got a raw deal.. probably hearsay
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 02:44:04 PM
This is the sentiment of 95% of the horseman in NY and Saratoga. The entire world knows that Saratoga is completely run by a criminal enterprise. One that runs from zero penalties for class A positives to manipulated draws. Putting Mark Beckwith in the hall of fame is just another reason nobody acknowledges it's foolishness. Two of the last 4 people nominated refused the nomination. So here we are. Watching Jay Randall (who deserves whatever honor there is) entering with one of the businesses greatest criminals. Horses in %50 of the barns. Non stop positive tests year after year after year for HORMONES, sheepwormer etc). One of Seth Fischmans biggest clients who still uses BB3! And Saratoga hall of fame enters someone with all of this as well as being barred from multiple tracks that are only a few hours away. Ignorance is bliss is exactly right. The people just sit back and take it. Year after year they rob the locals. Positive? Put them in Marks name. The track actually allowed them to put Melissa back down again!! How long till the testosterone shows up for the 7th time? Saratoga gets what they deserve. And the hall of fame is about as relevant as the employee of the month at Market 32.
Sorry Blu Skies, ask Grandstand Handicapper...it's all hearsay  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3...couldn't have said it better
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 01, 2025, 02:58:48 PM
Nobody is condemning Brett... the old man has had multiple positive tests in the past two years or should I say the mother and father… And all they do is switch the horses back-and-forth as trainer… If you think the transcript of the Epogen was all made up then fine keep racing against him.. the guy is barred from most tracks on the East Coast for a reason nothing to do with jealousy, armchair police or whatever… It is what it is and you think Mark Beckwith stands for integrity and truth?… Yeah OK... I guess Allard and the boys all got a raw deal.. probably hearsay

Allard has nothing to do with this, and bringing him up and inferring that you know what I think about him is nothing more then cheap and foolish efforts to try and be right. I am talking about Brett. Not his parents, and not his third cousin. I never said the transcript was made up. Don't be stupid. You are collapsing a lot of accusations, with rumor, innuendo, and so on. Stick with a fact here for a second. The fact is, what I said, was that someone else referenced his name. Period. Deflect away from that all you want, but that's all I said. It's a fact.

Was his name of Fishman's list? If it was, then we have something to talk about. Then, I am more apt to believe the hearsay is more than that. If it wasn't, it's just hearsay. 
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:04:30 PM
Allard has nothing to do with this, and bringing him up and inferring that you know what I think about him is nothing more then cheap and foolish efforts to try and be right. I am talking about Brett. Not his parents, and not his third cousin. I never said the transcript was made up. Don't be stupid. You are collapsing a lot of accusations, with rumor, innuendo, and so on. Stick with a fact here for a second. The fact is, what I said, was that someone else referenced his name. Period. Deflect away from that all you want, but that's all I said. It's a fact.

Was his name of Fishman's list? If it was, then we have something to talk about. Then, I am more apt to believe the hearsay is more than that. If it wasn't, it's just hearsay.
You are missing my point..I was posting about Mark...about his parents, not Bret..I was not condemning Bret for anything..Nobody has said a thing about Brett on this thread
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 01, 2025, 03:26:58 PM
You are missing my point..I was posting about Mark...about his parents, not Bret..I was not condemning Bret for anything..Nobody has said a thing about Brett on this thread

Point taken, and I was including the other thread/posts, on Brett. No, I did not mean to collapse the two topics. Regardless, is Mark's name on the buyer's list? It's a simple question?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 01, 2025, 03:27:09 PM
Allard has nothing to do with this, and bringing him up and inferring that you know what I think about him is nothing more then cheap and foolish efforts to try and be right. I am talking about Brett. Not his parents, and not his third cousin. I never said the transcript was made up. Don't be stupid. You are collapsing a lot of accusations, with rumor, innuendo, and so on. Stick with a fact here for a second. The fact is, what I said, was that someone else referenced his name. Period. Deflect away from that all you want, but that's all I said. It's a fact.

Was his name of Fishman's list? If it was, then we have something to talk about. Then, I am more apt to believe the hearsay is more than that. If it wasn't, it's just hearsay.
   What do you expect from a DUMBASS pool guy?      Asking him not to be stupid is asking for too much!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:28:41 PM
   What do you expect from a DUMBASS pool guy?      Asking him not to be stupid is asking for too much!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
hopefully , you cleaned up after the paddock  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:38:11 PM
   What do you expect from a DUMBASS pool guy?      Asking him not to be stupid is asking for too much!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Gotta be almost time to get Bret's supper ready and bring down to the basement  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:40:19 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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It All Makes Sense Now  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 01, 2025, 03:46:57 PM
Blatantly, abundantly, and obviously crystal clear to me now.

This is starting to sound more like Mike P. blather. Time for ignore. Next.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 01, 2025, 03:49:46 PM
   What do you expect from a DUMBASS pool guy?      Asking him not to be stupid is asking for too much!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

More and more this is starting to sound personal, vindictive, FOMO, jealousy, whatever. Doesn't matter to me. I don't do any of it. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:52:05 PM
Point taken, and I was including the other thread/posts, on Brett. No, I did not mean to collapse the two topics. Regardless, is Mark's name on the buyer's list? It's a simple question?
He was getting a script for Epogen fromDr  Grasso ,for a fee, then going to the pharmacy and picking it up, for pennies on the dollar...thats how it works..until the shit hit the fan
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Harness racer on December 01, 2025, 03:53:06 PM
That is how i read it also.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 01, 2025, 03:56:26 PM
That is how i read it also.
Finally, some help  tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 01, 2025, 07:01:44 PM
It All Makes Sense Now  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
     
    Petrelli has yet ANOTHER name???     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 10, 2025, 06:07:00 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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JUST A REMINDER
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 12, 2025, 01:27:29 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Ford is not the only one they're closing in on..
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 12, 2025, 01:51:22 PM
JUST A REMINDER

Beckwith using EPO, someone say it isnt true
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 12, 2025, 08:52:45 PM
The proof is in the pudding  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on December 13, 2025, 08:53:56 AM

   Mark has always been a cheat every since the old rosecroft days
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 13, 2025, 09:55:11 AM
   Mark has always been a cheat every since the old rosecroft days

   And you think that why?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 13, 2025, 10:25:43 AM
   And you think that why?

Maybe start with they banned him for 6 months in 1995?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on December 13, 2025, 10:30:24 AM
Maybe start with they banned him for 6 months in 1995?
Then what happened, other than Gallo and winning Trainer of the year in 2000.

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 13, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
Then what happened, other than Gallo and winning Trainer of the year in 2000.

What?
You are very confused. Wake up
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 13, 2025, 12:20:52 PM
   And you think that why?
Maybe because he's BANNED from most tracks on the East Coast....IDIOT  73cv.2
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: AgentQ on December 13, 2025, 12:49:36 PM
Ford is not the only one they're closing in on..

Begs the question, why hasn't he suffered the same fate as Gillis and Taylor?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 13, 2025, 12:56:44 PM
Begs the question, why hasn't he suffered the same fate as Gillis and Taylor?

Cause he says that he didnt know what was happening with his horses (as he was stealing purses)
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Harness racer on December 13, 2025, 01:04:22 PM
They all know, and the kid knows too.  Everyone uses a little something, some are willing to cross that line and use anything they can get their hands on.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 13, 2025, 05:48:04 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Pacer 2 is great person..helped Beckwith with his EPOGEN ORDER today..
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 14, 2025, 08:30:41 PM
Maybe because he's BANNED from most tracks on the East Coast....IDIOT  73cv.2

  Why so many names italian rat?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on December 14, 2025, 08:32:25 PM
Maybe because he's BANNED from most tracks on the East Coast....IDIOT  73cv.2

  Thats bullshit you DUMBASS!
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 15, 2025, 07:51:05 AM
  Thats bullshit you DUMBASS!
Oh really, DOUCHE BAG
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 15, 2025, 07:53:44 AM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Hey Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 It's gonna get real  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 29, 2025, 09:45:03 PM
Hey Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 It's gonna get real  ;D
Hey Pacer 2 (member of the Beckwith Crime Family)..it’s gonna get real  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on December 30, 2025, 09:57:06 AM


  Hey now let’s just honor the Beckwith family
  Not many sports praise people who have been banded from sport several times and they give award to
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 30, 2025, 11:58:49 AM

  Hey now let’s just honor the Beckwith family
  Not many sports praise people who have been banded from sport several times and they give award to
Especially when you're the groom in the barn and Saratoga awards you with being this great trainer  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on December 31, 2025, 08:18:32 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Pacer 2… Saratoga is only about a month away from reopening… shouldn’t you be helping Beckwith order Epogen…he can get the rest of the stuff (Hormones,sheep wormer etc) by himself…just a quick call to the Stratosphere brothers)…
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on December 31, 2025, 08:46:52 PM
Pool Guy Mike,

You failed badly on Engblom.  You were never of any measurable value in the "Integrity Campaign" you claim you lead.

You were of most use and happiest when you cared for that one horse in that old barn you swept and cleaned up.

Get some work on a farm.

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 01, 2026, 05:49:12 AM
Pool Guy Mike,

You failed badly on Engblom.  You were never of any measurable value in the "Integrity Campaign" you claim you lead.

You were of most use and happiest when you cared for that one horse in that old barn you swept and cleaned up.

Get some work on a farm.
I disagree but it's nice to see all the cheating fucks, stick together ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 06, 2026, 09:27:10 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Hey, Pacer2… time to help Beckwith with his Epogen order  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 06, 2026, 09:49:05 PM
This is the sentiment of 95% of the horseman in NY and Saratoga. The entire world knows that Saratoga is completely run by a criminal enterprise. One that runs from zero penalties for class A positives to manipulated draws. Putting Mark Beckwith in the hall of fame is just another reason nobody acknowledges it's foolishness. Two of the last 4 people nominated refused the nomination. So here we are. Watching Jay Randall (who deserves whatever honor there is) entering with one of the businesses greatest criminals. Horses in %50 of the barns. Non stop positive tests year after year after year for HORMONES, sheepwormer etc). One of Seth Fischmans biggest clients who still uses BB3! And Saratoga hall of fame enters someone with all of this as well as being barred from multiple tracks that are only a few hours away. Ignorance is bliss is exactly right. The people just sit back and take it. Year after year they rob the locals. Positive? Put them in Marks name. The track actually allowed them to put Melissa back down again!! How long till the testosterone shows up for the 7th time? Saratoga gets what they deserve. And the hall of fame is about as relevant as the employee of the month at Market 32.
Great points, Blue Skies
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on January 07, 2026, 08:27:33 AM


    Saratoga is one of the most curupt places on earth
          There’s no decent people there only complete sucmbags
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on January 07, 2026, 08:40:59 AM
Mark wishes he had the superpowers you think he has 73cv.2
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on January 07, 2026, 09:03:09 AM

    Super powers???

    It starts way higher up than mark beckwith
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 07, 2026, 02:39:56 PM
Mark wishes he had the superpowers you think he has 73cv.2
When you get to use Epogen, Sheep Wormer, Hormones and you're allowed to leave the grounds the day of the race (and give different names for the horses at the stable gate)...run a hose in them and then return to the track to race ....I'd say you have SUPER POWERS  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 07, 2026, 02:42:55 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 08, 2026, 04:54:49 PM
Pacer 2 (member of the Beckwith Crime family)...take some time out of your busy schedule and help Mark with his Epogen order
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on January 08, 2026, 06:07:02 PM

    Or Melissa depending on what time of year
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on January 08, 2026, 08:36:34 PM
The horsemen hated Don Hoover because he encouraged Burke to race there to spice up the product.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 09, 2026, 12:33:59 PM
The horsemen hated Don Hoover because he encouraged Burke to race there to spice up the product.
I own a Hoover vacuum  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on January 09, 2026, 05:49:36 PM


 It sucks




  A lot like harness racing
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 11:09:03 AM
;D
Hey Pacer 2..Saratoga opening is getting close...time to help Beckwith with the EPOGEN ORDER. 
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 11:11:09 AM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 11, 2026, 01:28:15 PM
Gotta be almost time to get Bret's supper ready and bring down to the basement  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


 He doesn't live in S.R.O welfare housing like you?

 Are you laughing that he takes care of his kids or that he works for a living?
 (It may be hard to believe that some work & take care of their family)

 
  "those who live in a glass house..." etc
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 02:11:07 PM
Kole Hanover another Cheating Fuck Supporter
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 02:14:35 PM
Works for a living… Illegally… you fucking idiot… and I hate to burst your bubble but I am not Mike…. but I can’t wait till he gets back on here
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 02:20:02 PM
The guy has multiple positives for hormones and sheep wormer And is documented needing an up-to-date script for Epogen via Guido from Fishman…you fucking moron… are you one of the dozens of trainers that Beckwith has horses in training with at Saratoga …another illegal act…
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Kirby's Ace on January 11, 2026, 04:17:37 PM
Works for a living… Illegally… you fucking idiot… and I hate to burst your bubble but I am not Mike…. but I can’t wait till he gets back on here

If you're not, then you're missing a hell of a opportunity!
 73cv.2
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 11, 2026, 04:25:56 PM

 I'm no Beckwith fan but I know scm & you can dislike them both.

 There isn't a "one or the other"

 Both scum? I don't know, but scm is for sure
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on January 11, 2026, 05:19:18 PM
If you're not, then you're missing a hell of a opportunity!
 73cv.2
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