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Title: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: SIX SHOOTER on September 15, 2025, 11:05:19 AM
LET THEM RACE AGAINST EACH OTHER AND EVERYONE ELSE RACE LIKE NORMAL AND WATCH THE SPORT GROW AGAIN THESE 4 TRAINERS ARE NUKING THE SPORT  tmbz1
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: hoosierboy on September 15, 2025, 11:14:13 AM
LET THEM RACE AGAINST EACH OTHER AND EVERYONE ELSE RACE LIKE NORMAL AND WATCH THE SPORT GROW AGAIN THESE 4 TRAINERS ARE NUKING THE SPORT  tmbz1

Agree
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: DEBBIE DOES on September 15, 2025, 11:27:56 AM
24 hr detention would  help some. I would like to see a 96-120 hr detention barn. And the vets need to be held accountable too. Cause I've seen them tube horses on raceday.
It's really sad.
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: AgentQ on September 15, 2025, 01:24:24 PM
The moment they let them go to training centres and private farms was the moment the sport lost it's integrity and therefore, its future. The various commissions are useless and incompetent and along with the various racetracks have had no solution. I sometimes wonder if the exec's even cared at times. A once great and thriving sport has been reduced to 20 or so owners taking 80% of the money out of the game using primarily 10 trainers. The final salvo might be RonBurke on the supply side and the CAW issue on teh demand side---can't see any new bettors wanting to play this game and 80% of that demographic is aging old white people who have either stopped gambling or are about to die. I used to think this game is bullet-proof but i no longer feel or think that way anymore. Hopefully Kentucky can learn from Ontario, NY and Ohio on what not to tolerate and structure their thinking more in the lines of Hong Kong--which is to say, protect the horses/fellow horsepeople and the bettors at ALL costs. That's the blueprint and we couldn't be further away from it. Why other horsemen don't ban together to put pressure on the various tracks and commissions is beyond me. I suspect most just are trying to ride it out to retirement.
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: MCR on September 15, 2025, 03:26:18 PM
Tracks can't afford to supply sufficient amount of stalls or facilities so that forces barn area closings
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: Ramnap on September 15, 2025, 04:23:38 PM
They didnt test for anything till the 80's..every trainer that ever existed had or has their secret formula. Two months after i started racing horses owners would come up to me with bottles with no labels telling me just let them know what horse i used it on so they could bet. I was 17.  From that moment on i knew what i was in for.  By the time i was 21 i would tote around a pharmacy. I dont condone or applaud drug use unless its something good for the horse. Like epo or klow peptide. No testing is gonna find it and its actually good for the animal if you dose it right. I will stand by that statement and so will anybody else without a current license.
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: seen2much on September 15, 2025, 04:33:46 PM
There is a big difference. Burke is doing what he does in the biggest stakes races. His magical improvements are on display everywhere. I never hear of the other 3 since I don't watch or play tracks where they race.
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: Kenny on September 15, 2025, 05:10:01 PM
There is a big difference. Burke is doing what he does in the biggest stakes races. His magical improvements are on display everywhere. I never hear of the other 3 since I don't watch or play tracks where they race.

Did Burke ever get caught with syringes in his truck in a foreign country?

https://static.bonniernews.se/images/66/65/6665661fe02c866a641d8d34999f6002/420@60.jpg

https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru021519.pdf
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: Sakit on September 15, 2025, 05:45:05 PM
They deserve all the credit they have good horses and win races
Title: Re: BURKE /VIRGIL/NOBLE/GEORGE
Post by: Chessington on September 15, 2025, 11:16:52 PM
They didnt test for anything till the 80's..every trainer that ever existed had or has their secret formula. Two months after i started racing horses owners would come up to me with bottles with no labels telling me just let them know what horse i used it on so they could bet. I was 17.  From that moment on i knew what i was in for.  By the time i was 21 i would tote around a pharmacy. I dont condone or applaud drug use unless its something good for the horse. Like epo or klow peptide. No testing is gonna find it and its actually good for the animal if you dose it right. I will stand by that statement and so will anybody else without a current license.
Im trying to connect the dots with the first part of the story w owners approaching a 17 yo with unlabeled drugs.  Would love to know the name of your daddy. Haha
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