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Title: BURKE
Post by: SIX SHOOTER on September 15, 2025, 10:56:52 AM
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Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on September 15, 2025, 11:31:22 AM
Monopoly. Killing the sport.
And he can have all the money in the world. He is still an asshole.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Sakit on September 15, 2025, 11:53:07 AM
Just look at what hard work and perseverance creates! Burke deserves a huge congratulations.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: AgentQ on September 15, 2025, 01:29:17 PM
Anyone that has a budget of a cool million a month and feels the need to compete in every jurisdiction, has only his best interest at heart, with the sport a distant second.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Sakit on September 15, 2025, 05:44:13 PM
Anyone that has a budget of a cool million a month and feels the need to compete in every jurisdiction, has only his best interest at heart, with the sport a distant second.
so what’s wrong with that?
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 15, 2025, 08:03:26 PM
Feels the need? I think Burke competes in every jurisdiction where he believes he can make money. Of course he has his best interest at heart. He's supposed to. It's his business. He's in it to make a living, a profit. Only has his best interest? Sport a distant second. Futile discussion IMO. I don't expect Burke or anyone else-----and this is their business-----to make decisions which are detrimental to themselves.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Brown jug on September 15, 2025, 08:32:49 PM
than somebody someway catch him
if guilty suspend
end of problem
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Chessington on September 15, 2025, 11:07:49 PM
Feels the need? I think Burke competes in every jurisdiction where he believes he can make money. Of course he has his best interest at heart. He's supposed to. It's his business. He's in it to make a living, a profit. Only has his best interest? Sport a distant second. Futile discussion IMO. I don't expect Burke or anyone else-----and this is their business-----to make decisions which are detrimental to themselves.
The 3 legged stool. Harness racing is sport a business and driven by gambling. It all creates large conflicts. For all the right reasons the horseman treat it foremost as a business and should only being doing what is best for the horse and nothing else should matter. The bettor is only looking to cash a ticket that moment and could care less of “that” horse’s racing schedule.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 16, 2025, 08:02:48 AM
He's an amazing trainer.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Kenny on September 16, 2025, 08:11:02 AM
The 3 legged stool. Harness racing is sport a business and driven by gambling. It all creates large conflicts. For all the right reasons the horseman treat it foremost as a business and should only being doing what is best for the horse and nothing else should matter. The bettor is only looking to cash a ticket that moment and could care less of “that” horse’s racing schedule.

It is not really driven by gambling in many places. In Pennsylvania for example, only about 15% of the purses comes from handle.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Sakit on September 16, 2025, 09:49:14 AM
He's an amazing trainer.
he really is
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: clearmind on September 16, 2025, 11:42:53 AM
         When you look at the industry from afar , it's very hard to believe that one trainer in the industry would be so dominant, especially at the top rung of the business.
   He constantly improves horses that come from very reputable barns and trainers.
Could a trainer be so good that he can be better then everybody that ever trained ?

That's quite a stretch.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: AgentQ on September 16, 2025, 11:52:38 AM
Burke is no dummy around a horse that's for damn sure. I just feel anybody that participates in the game and has that kind of success might want to consider the overall health of the sport. Obviously Weaver and him want it all and that should be disappointing for all that want the game to thrive. How much is enough?
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: seen2much on September 16, 2025, 11:58:21 AM
Lexus Kody never beat top FFA trotters. He made two moves, was pressured, & draws clear...as much the best. Where did that race come from & the ridiculous improvement? The more I see the more obvious it is.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Lockedin With Pace on September 16, 2025, 12:03:23 PM
He may have been pressured but the fractions weren't fast. As far as never beater FFA horses, who knows how good some of those international horses and drivers really are plus they were either parked the mile or locked in.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: seen2much on September 16, 2025, 12:08:43 PM
He may have been pressured but the fractions weren't fast. As far as never beater FFA horses, who knows how good some of those international horses and drivers really are plus they were either parked the mile or locked in.
I was not clear & was referring to the MLT.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on September 16, 2025, 12:09:04 PM
was Ron burke close with his dad?

who was on the fishman list.  don't be naive people.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: seen2much on September 16, 2025, 12:09:52 PM
He may have been pressured but the fractions weren't fast. As far as never beater FFA horses, who knows how good some of those international horses and drivers really are plus they were either parked the mile or locked in.
The fractions were not fast at YR. In the old days class mattered.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: The Unstable on September 16, 2025, 02:16:04 PM
Flying Tom was beaten 61 lengths his last 4 ohio fair starts and never within 12 in any of those raced. Burke buys off Loe 1x race 4 at delaware today 6/5 jogs by 4 under wraps.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 17, 2025, 08:37:06 AM
         When you look at the industry from afar , it's very hard to believe that one trainer in the industry would be so dominant, especially at the top rung of the business.
   He constantly improves horses that come from very reputable barns and trainers.
Could a trainer be so good that he can be better then everybody that ever trained ?

That's quite a stretch.
   Not a stretch when you consider he uses the best equipment hyperbaric chambers best food, best vets, best drivers and top horsemen!!
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: The Answer on September 17, 2025, 08:43:07 AM
He just got Deja Blu off of Takter, Atlanta’s foal. Qualified second to Maryland in 51 best mile of her life. I’ve had been a Burke supporter in the past but what he’s doing lately makes me suspicious
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: clearmind on September 17, 2025, 12:19:48 PM
Burkes horses race the same way that Allard's horses did.
They just never stop and it's not hard to figure out.
It's all about blood oxygen and he knows how to improve it.
     I don't buy the horseman BS  He is the best chemist in the industry.
     I would like WADA to get involved with just one of his new acquisitions and do a BIOLOGICAL passport on it.
He dropped 5 seconds because i lowered the check 2 holes on him.
He's too big to fail.

A biological passport is basically an individual, personalized profile of an athlete’s biological markers. Instead of detecting banned substances directly in the blood or urine, it monitors how the body responds over time — changes that could indicate the use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs).
     
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on September 17, 2025, 12:32:59 PM
it's very possible he knows what they are testing for at certain times. all the money he has and pull in the business. people think he is Jesus Christ.  you are going to tell me someone who has info won't take a few grand to give him info? a few grand to that operation is peanuts. how about if he knows what races are going to blood gas tested. that a pretty good advantage.
where theres money there will be cheaters.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Brown jug on September 17, 2025, 09:37:53 PM
he buys blue onyx  from alagna and  first start bingo wins out of the 8 hole at lexington in fairness thought that trotter is far better story
in the first place why in gods name do you buy a 3 yr old gelding racing at the fairs
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 17, 2025, 09:43:23 PM
it's very possible he knows what they are testing for at certain times. all the money he has and pull in the business. people think he is Jesus Christ.  you are going to tell me someone who has info won't take a few grand to give him info? a few grand to that operation is peanuts. how about if he knows what races are going to blood gas tested. that a pretty good advantage.
where theres money there will be cheaters.

  You have quite an imagination and lots of jealousy    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: NOTHING BUT TRUTHS on September 18, 2025, 10:29:51 AM
It's not possible right
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Pacer 2 on September 18, 2025, 11:47:08 AM
It's not possible right
You have quite an imagination and lots of jealousy   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: MCR on September 18, 2025, 01:26:29 PM
I love Burke im a huge fan. The man loves to win and wants gis horses raced!! Love the aggression
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: littlebitbrown on September 18, 2025, 01:35:15 PM
Not for farmers any more.  For business people.  Im sure Burke pre races his horses but they also get the best of everything in barn, feed, care, supplements.  These things cost and the little guys cant afford this stuff.   Not easy for little guys to see this but its life. 
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Sakit on September 18, 2025, 04:06:53 PM
You have quite an imagination and lots of jealousy   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: seen2much on September 18, 2025, 04:53:06 PM
Not for farmers any more.  For business people.  Im sure Burke pre races his horses but they also get the best of everything in barn, feed, care, supplements.  These things cost and the little guys cant afford this stuff.   Not easy for little guys to see this but its life.
Burke is dominating stakes races everywhere. He is not racing against farmers. The competition has the best of everything too.
Title: Re: BURKE
Post by: Black juice on September 18, 2025, 07:38:49 PM
Flying Tom was beaten 61 lengths his last 4 ohio fair starts and never within 12 in any of those raced. Burke buys off Loe 1x race 4 at delaware today 6/5 jogs by 4 under wraps.
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Yep, I been watching him most of all summer, not the same horse! 🤨
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