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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Misty meadows on September 14, 2025, 10:57:47 AM

Title: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Misty meadows on September 14, 2025, 10:57:47 AM
How about when trainer of horse and owner of the horse has to give there money back when caught with suspension. The driver also gets fined his 5% and has to give it back also. Driver keeps getting fined from same trainer. He may say fuck it. I’m not driving for him anymore …. Thoughts??
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Dingus on September 14, 2025, 03:28:15 PM
How about when trainer of horse and owner of the horse has to give there money back when caught with suspension. The driver also gets fined his 5% and has to give it back also. Driver keeps getting fined from same trainer. He may say fuck it. I’m not driving for him anymore …. Thoughts??

Unfortunately, it doesn’t occur often enough.  Not until they start offering rewards to informants and/or come up with a test that detects these epo drugs.  It’s showing up everywhere, not just at a few tracks.
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Kenny on September 14, 2025, 03:39:03 PM
How about when trainer of horse and owner of the horse has to give there money back when caught with suspension. The driver also gets fined his 5% and has to give it back also. Driver keeps getting fined from same trainer. He may say fuck it. I’m not driving for him anymore …. Thoughts??

Usually the purse gets redistributed. Often that is much greater than the fine.
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: helpplease on September 14, 2025, 05:32:48 PM
How about when trainer of horse and owner of the horse has to give there money back when caught with suspension. The driver also gets fined his 5% and has to give it back also. Driver keeps getting fined from same trainer. He may say fuck it. I’m not driving for him anymore …. Thoughts??

From my understanding a driver already has to return their 5% if the owner & trainer have to return their earnings. Are you suggesting fining the driver on top for their returned earnings?
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Misty meadows on September 14, 2025, 05:58:10 PM
Never heard of driver giving their 5% up if the horse they drove comes up positive
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: helpplease on September 14, 2025, 07:40:34 PM
Never heard of driver giving their 5% up if the horse they drove comes up positive

100% it happens.
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Kenny on September 14, 2025, 07:45:18 PM
Never heard of driver giving their 5% up if the horse they drove comes up positive

Do you read the fines and suspensions? There is a phrase "purse redistributed".

Quote
CHINDANO, MAGGIE BLOOMINGBURG, NY YOB 2000
BR on 6/12/2024 FINED: $250
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Maggie Chindano as trainer of record for the horse LEAVE AND ROLL 1st place finisher in
the 12th race on 6/12/2024 at Buffalo Raceway is hereby assessed a penalty of $500.00.
Post-race analysis of the sample submitted resulted in a positive finding for Ranitidine at a
level higher than the allowable threshold. LEAVE AND ROLL is hereby disqualified and
placed 8th. All purse monies paid must be returned and redistributed. Having appeared
before a representative of the NYSGC and waiving the right to a formal hearing and appeal,
the fine is reduced to $250.00. The horse LEAVE AND ROLL will be required to submit a
negative sample for the above mentioned substance before being allowed to participate.
(1st offense in this category in a 365-day period.)

Do you think the owner is going to return all the money even the amount he no longer has?
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Misty meadows on September 14, 2025, 07:59:45 PM
Purse redistribution is for money horse made and trainer. I’m 100% positive Dexter Dunn is not giving his 5% drivers money the owner and the trainer is only one 
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: SDST2009 on September 14, 2025, 11:11:38 PM
Never heard of driver giving their 5% up if the horse they drove comes up positive


Well they sure as shit should have to..? It's purse re-distribution..
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Black juice on September 15, 2025, 03:33:40 AM
Do you read the fines and suspensions? There is a phrase "purse redistributed".

Do you think the owner is going to return all the money even the amount he no longer has?

If they don’t they do get suspended too , been through it
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Cleanupindustry on September 15, 2025, 06:19:33 AM
Purse re distribution is what owner has to give back. If you race for 10,000. The winning owner gets 5,000 minus 5% to trainer and driver. He gets a check for 90% or 4,500 trainer and driver gets check for 250.00 each. The owner has to give back that 4,500. The trainer pays back whatever fine the track dishes out the driver pays nothing 
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Kenny on September 15, 2025, 06:30:11 AM
Purse redistribution is for money horse made and trainer. I’m 100% positive Dexter Dunn is not giving his 5% drivers money the owner and the trainer is only one

Read your are post. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. You are just guessing.
Title: Re: Is this a good idea or bad idea ????
Post by: Cleanupindustry on September 15, 2025, 09:10:40 AM
Wow I’ve met a lot of stupid people in the world but this takes it all.  Let’s say Ron Burke comes up positive on Yonkers trot for 1,000,000 do you think yannick gingras has to pay back his 5%. Or 25,000   If you do think he pays that back your a moron. Only the purse from the owner yannick keeps every dime.  That’s why if you read misty meadows first post.  Wouldn’t it be nice if drivers have to pay it back. Then maybe they wouldn’t drive for these known gas people anymore.
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