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General Category => Thoroughbred Racing => Topic started by: Trigger on September 03, 2025, 11:32:39 AM
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I am looking at one race today, Thistledown, Race 1 (12:50pm). It's on the dirt, a Maiden Special Weight now down to 7 horses from 8 and going 6f. The weather looks like a Fast track there.
The horse that scratched (#7) was to be a first time runner, so these remaining 3 yo fillies have all raced at 2 and if not then at 3 yo.
Clearly by their pps, the #3 and #8 are the standouts. The #3 reared up pretty significantly out of the gate in her last race and came strong at the end. If she avoids that I think she betters the 8 who seems to need more time between races. The 1,2,5 look awful, even the 2 with the jockey upgrade, and virtually impossible to see them turning it around today. The #6 is now racing again, 2nd time, coming off a long layoff with a better trainer, so interesting. I hope the surprise is the #4, this horse is bred by the same family that owned her Mare that won a 1/2 mil clams.
3468. A little hope with the longshots 4 and 6, however the 3 clearly looks ready to roll and the one to beat on paper.
I named this thread Day I, the reason is that I'm going to be doing a gambling thread each day. However no matter what day, what stakes races and who is running, for the foreseeable future I only will be handicapping and wagering on only ONE RACE PER DAY and no more. No budget limitation, could be $25 could be $1000 bet for that race. At the end of the day I will either post a W or L.
More focus on what I am to study and bet, and better for my current stamina and gives me a chance to watch more races and see if there are any horses and or situations I should follow as I deleted all the horses in both my harness and t-bred virtual stables, so I am committed to nothing. I could root for my pals that show up and more time to chat about their races. It's a fresh start off a very long cooler that lasted a month with only 1 winning day.
Good Luck everyone! ;D
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Order of finish 8324. Nope, cashed nothing.
-$27.60 today.
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If you play Finger Fuck...I mean Finger Lakes...wait..no. .Finger Fuck is right ngc3 ngc3 Watch Luis Gutierrez horses. He is obviously doping his entire barn lately. Either that or fixed races to let him win races. He is a track favorite as you can hear it when Dave mentions him. He is in love with his LU GU ngc3 ngc3 I'm just waiting for Relyu's old man to get busted but I don't think they drug test horses at that track. It's a dump. All of them are dopers there. That's why those horses can't win races anywhere else. They are doped up pigs!
But anyways..don't leave LU GU off your ticket if you play that shit hole! I stopped playing the track. Don't like the corruption and bullshit
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If you play Finger Fuck...I mean Finger Lakes...wait..no. .Finger Fuck is right ngc3 ngc3 Watch Luis Gutierrez horses. He is obviously doping his entire barn lately. Either that or fixed races to let him win races. He is a track favorite as you can hear it when Dave mentions him. He is in love with his LU GU ngc3 ngc3 I'm just waiting for Relyu's old man to get busted but I don't think they drug test horses at that track. It's a dump. All of them are dopers there. That's why those horses can't win races anywhere else. They are doped up pigs!
But anyways..don't leave LU GU off your ticket if you play that shit hole! I stopped playing the track. Don't like the corruption and bullshit
ngc3 Wager small or large and get Finger Fucked! ngc3
We saw some crazy shit there too recently and it sounds like you have the pulse, thank you.
I'm not sure if it is still applicable but it's really not my cup of tea, very small tracks, small purses, small handles, some are so poor they can't even afford legal stuff like lasix. They race like their life depends on it, not very talent rich either which is what would sway me away. Maybe something to do a handicapping non wagering test on.
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ngc3 Wager small or large and get Finger Fucked! ngc3
LMFAO spot on! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Watch the replay of race 6! Focus on the jockey of 1A ..Penis brain. Watch him stand up way before the wire and look behind him and to the left of him. His name is Pena but I like Penis brain better ngc3 ngc3 He stiffed 4th ...obviously there were some bets made in that race by jockeys. It's a shit show. Cheating fucks all over the place. I have scored wins but I'm so done with that shit now.
They need to close that dump down and put everyone out of business!
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ngc3 Wager small or large and get Finger Fucked! ngc3
LMFAO spot on! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Watch the replay of race 6! Focus on the jockey of 1A ..Penis brain. Watch him stand up way before the wire and look behind him and to the left of him. His name is Pena but I like Penis brain better ngc3 ngc3 He stiffed 4th ...obviously there were some bets made in that race by jockeys. It's a shit show. Cheating fucks all over the place. I have scored wins but I'm so done with that shit now.
They need to close that dump down and put everyone out of business!
I watched the race as your requested. 1m 70y, The 1A leaving from the 10 hole reared up in the gate a couple of secs before it opened. Went to the front and instead of staying wide as he couldn't make the lead or didn't want to go that fast backed off the pace, then came on and looked like a placing contender at least, then looked like he was finished, however you are 100% he pulled up and gave up a couple of strides too early and it cost his backers 4th for sure.
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I watched the race as your requested. 1m 70y, The 1A leaving from the 10 hole reared up in the gate a couple of secs before it opened. Went to the front and instead of staying wide as he couldn't make the lead or didn't want to go that fast backed off the pace, then came on and looked like a placing contender at least, then looked like he was finished, however you are 100% he pulled up and gave up a couple of strides too early and it cost his backers 4th for sure.
I know a few people who were ticked off after that race! We all saw what he did before the wire and killed a lot of superfectas. Disgusting! I'm so tired of this shit! And Fort Erie today announced they announced that fuck face Kirk Johnson did nothing wrong in that race weeks ago. yeah, right. 11.wp 11.wp I stopped playing that track a year last year after I saw a stiff job by Amanda Vandershit . I emailed the track about it. She was off her mounts next day and that weekend at Woodbine. But after that I was done. Never again playing that dump!
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Been watching FL this week. Appears ELITE or some other devious group are getting to some of the FL crew. Race 1 favorite was yanked out of the gate today. Exotics were short
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I know a few people who were ticked off after that race! We all saw what he did before the wire and killed a lot of superfectas. Disgusting! I'm so tired of this shit! And Fort Erie today announced they announced that fuck face Kirk Johnson did nothing wrong in that race weeks ago. yeah, right. 11.wp 11.wp I stopped playing that track a year last year after I saw a stiff job by Amanda Vandershit . I emailed the track about it. She was off her mounts next day and that weekend at Woodbine. But after that I was done. Never again playing that dump!
I spoke to the stewards this morning at Belterra for 8 minutes this morning. Regarding the Albin Jimenez suspension and how the #2 Lebron's horse was never given a second look. Problem with stewards in general, if they miss something they never want to admit instead of saying let's give it another look.
As per KJ, AGCO involved, say no more ngc3. They're asking the former horse's trainers about the horse any stupid bullshit, they actually create excuses for cheating so ridiculous it's incredulous. They're all corrupt, AGCO is really dirty and that's why they need to be bypassed and included in the original horse racing complaint now to be submitted to the Canadian AG. See if he's a man or a corrupt mouse.
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Northfield I speed handicapped the rest of the card. Lets see how it goes
Race 6 It seems like the mdws shippers hold the edge if they stay flat
Box 236 p5 236/5/123/2/47
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Northfield I speed handicapped the rest of the card. Lets see how it goes
Race 6 It seems like the mdws shippers hold the edge if they stay flat
Box 236 p5 236/5/123/2/47
Justine Irvine moving into second place with #3 at 17-1 when he breaks
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Northfield I speed handicapped the rest of the card. Lets see how it goes
Race 6 It seems like the mdws shippers hold the edge if they stay flat
Box 236 p5 236/5/123/2/47
When someone is on a multi-race winning streak, we can call that a Timonium lol!
You have a crazy knack for horses to finish 2nd, one time using 1 or 2 in a pick 4 they were all 2nd. I think your bet of choice might be the NYRA Grand Slam, ahhhh tmbz1
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And I never bet to place.
Northfield Race 9 p3 2/47/49
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northfield race 11 p4 9/23/45/12
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TRIG: JOHN FRANK ARMY got sum thins to say.
(1) I like your new srategy. One bet a day makes perfect sense. I liked muliples in day. Place alls,Pic 6'sixes,grand slam,ecetra.
(2) I'll chime in on one other thin also. If their was a sequence with MSW,especially 2 years old,I would lay off. And never play PIC ALLS,especially at SANTA or DEL,unless it only a 8 race card and there a carryover in their PIC 6 pool. I know,stringent rules,but I abide by them. WON some nice pools by my patience.
(3) So,one day after races over at ARLINGTON,I'm sittin outside MR'D'S which is open for another oiple hours to bet late tracks. I'M sittin with MOSES YANEZ,a very nice guy and trainer(although won very few races) but a friend of mine. Also with DONNA LUPEY another trainer who never won and her husband MIKE the tack room manager,who were good friends of mine. And the interisting gentalman was jockey COREY NAKATANI who was ridin at ARLINGTON at time,who was friends with the aforementioned. TOOO BE CONTINUED.....
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So corey and me gets to talkin. He goes: are you a bettor. I tells him,I come every day and my budject each day is about $40.00 a day for bettin and $100.00 for me bar bill. He laughs. I mentions that I strickly bet multiples and avoid MSW,but I will play MAIDEN CLAIMERS. And he goes: thats interestin. And he offers me some advise as a jockey about playin MSW and claimers especially 2 year olds. And especially first time starters. I ask him if he normally works them out in mornin. He goes: me days of doin that are over. I just get on and ride in afternoon. But he says. They are unpredictable. One never knows how they will re-act at gate in a real race. He goes,a bettor should never bet those races. And he also advised me: Watch past performances. If a young horse last lines show he actin up or don't break good,always lay off until he finnally breaks and runs at least a performadle race. He goes BLINKS on for first time or the trainer is givin him more gate works. SOUND advise from the MAN whould know.
Anyhow. Good luc on your new sratigy.
Might also chime in on your dailey bets with my own 1 pic. Will be a dailey i pic #20.00 place mind bet.
If I can hit with some sucess,maybe I can help others win some MOOOLLLAAA.
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I'sss goin add sum other hints about FIRST timeSTARTERS,if one is gonna play.
This from JOHN FRANK ARMY book on HORSE GAMBLIN.
(1) Most of this is bein on track live.
(1) If you see a pony on dirt comin out first time wrapped,don't bet it. It a gonna be STIFF. You make noyations on them on your program and then wait to their second time out. And when I say wrapped,I meen front. Then if you see the fronts off their second start it meens they well meant and the barn is goin for it and usually at a price.
(2) And one needs to be on track for this. In paddock walkin around and on apron with ponies paradin in front,watch to see if one is takin a dump. I know there different opinions on this from mostly those wo know nuttin about horse racin. It good for humans but not for horses. They either been fed off schedule,which not good or they very nervouse and will not run their race. And if the heavy favorite does this,he or she is runnin out. There others horses with a price to be had.
(3) Always check the SIRES PRICE VRS the PURCHASE PRICE in younsters. Obviously,HOME BREDS,one can't. EXAMPLE". IF the SIRE is $60,000 and the sale purchase is $15,000,suntin wrong there. The colt or filly has sum issues. If the sale is higher,the pony has some potential.
ALL this from: JOHN FRANK ARMY has played the GAME.
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Hi John, thank you for your experience and wisdom. It vindicates what I've said, which is that to be a complete handicapper and wagerer when you lack certain time / geographic constraints you have to work as a team, and in this case, man the live feed (and be listening), be on track so you can watch you've said and first learn what all these terms mean and what they look like. I've taken notes.
You told me that Nakatani story on our last call, was definitely a good one and glad you shared it with everyone. :)