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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Lance on August 25, 2025, 10:32:39 AM
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It's still very early but this might be the nicest colt to come along in a while. As always, it will be interesting to see when he faces the top colts, but he's now 5 for 5 and has just been on cruise control. Looks very impressive.
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Who are the top American colts he will face?
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Who are the top American colts he will face?
Harris has a Seaside colt in Lexington and Burke has Frantic Hanover other than them I don’t see much
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Harris has a Seaside colt in Lexington and Burke has Frantic Hanover other than them I don’t see much
AL PAPI
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Harris has a Seaside colt in Lexington and Burke has Frantic Hanover other than them I don’t see much
Brandon Blvd
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Feels like with Kentucky’s program coming online there has been less interaction between the top 2 year olds. I don’t even know who the top year olds are and we are knocking on September’s door.
Calendar is pushing some of this too. Metro elims are the same day as the KYSS finals. The Haughton is within 5-7 days of the NYSS finals, the PASS finals, the KYSS finals, the Ohio Breeders, and NJ Classic Finals.
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Feels like with Kentucky’s program coming online there has been less interaction between the top 2 year olds. I don’t even know who the top year olds are and we are knocking on September’s door.
Calendar is pushing some of this too. Metro elims are the same day as the KYSS finals. The Haughton is within 5-7 days of the NYSS finals, the PASS finals, the KYSS finals, the Ohio Breeders, and NJ Classic Finals.
KY has duel eligibility. Why race the Grand Circuit when you can race in two state programs?
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KY has duel eligibility. Why race the Grand Circuit when you can race in two state programs?
Understand why the horseman are doing it - just not sure having the top ones scattered all summer is great for the sport. Obvious downstream impacts too as the top horses take all the state money
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It's still very early but this might be the nicest colt to come along in a while. As always, it will be interesting to see when he faces the top colts, but he's now 5 for 5 and has just been on cruise control. Looks very impressive.
100% agree! tmbz1
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Who are the top American colts he will face?
Brandon blvd
Frantic Hanover
Al papi
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Beau reminds many (me too) of the great Somebeachsomewher e's early dominance.. a magnificent fast moving machine.
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Very nice colt. Looks like he's doing what he's doing easy, gets over the ground very well, and looks handy. Big colt too. He obviously met a pretty weak bunch in his Nassagaweya division, but he showed up. If all goes well, he's going to the Metro and if he keeps going, maybe the BC.
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https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/8-27-25/beau-jangles-connections-trying-stay-grounded.html
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That’s one nice colt
Only 65 k At Harrisburg sale
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I don't see much in the way of him running the table this year...the others don't seem as good
Metro and BC wins seem more than reasonable
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He is a very nice horse. But McClure is due for a horrible drive on him at any given race.
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He won in 151 last night.. came away 5th pulled between the quarter and half following Jody's nice 2 year old. Cleared before the turn. Down the stretch McClure was like a statue in the sulky..except his head of course ngc3. The article that whiptherabbit posted is a good read. The horse won't leave Canada all year. OSS gold final, the metro, and the breeders crown.
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He won in 151 last night.. came away 5th pulled between the quarter and half following Jody's nice 2 year old. Cleared before the turn. Down the stretch McClure was like a statue in the sulky..except his head of course ngc3. The article that whiptherabbit posted is a good read. The horse won't leave Canada all year. OSS gold final, the metro, and the breeders crown.
I don’t think Jody’s colt can beat him but last night BM gave him no chance. Locked him in the pocket and never let him out.
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I don’t think Jody’s colt can beat him but last night BM gave him no chance. Locked him in the pocket and never let him out.
That's correct, I'll give bobble credit , he stuck to the rail perfectly.. in the article he says driving that horse is like operating a robot. Effortless. The horse has never been asked yet.
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McClure did the right thing--and moved to follow Jamiesons piece at the perfect time
in case Jody had more-he never would /could have been able to show it
having said that--the horse deserves a top driver
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McClure did the right thing--and moved to follow Jamiesons piece at the perfect time
in case Jody had more-he never would /could have been able to show it
having said that--the horse deserves a top driver
Agreed.. the article said that Roy was going to drive the horse originally, but he had a commitment at the Meadowlands the night of his first start. I bet he is sick about that. Bobble will probably drive him the rest of the year I would guess, since he will not leave Canada.
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Jamieson is utilizing the same playbook on Tillthecowscomeho me as he did when they raced Santana Bluechip. Leave for position and ride the rail getting as much money behind a monster (SBSW)
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The 2YOs are still developing! Look at Mr. Mamba last night at HP, 149.2! I am looking forward to the Elevation Pace for 2YOs at HP on the 19th of September! Frantic Hanover is eligible, so is Another C Note, Mamba and Richie from Indy!! That race will go a long ways toward sorting out some of the top tier 2YOs!
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The 2YOs are still developing! Look at Mr. Mamba last night at HP, 149.2! I am looking forward to the Elevation Pace for 2YOs at HP on the 19th of September! Frantic Hanover is eligible, so is Another C Note, Mamba and Richie from Indy!! That race will go a long ways toward sorting out some of the top tier 2YOs!
I sent a congrats in sound off here but it likely got buried.
Macomber acted like he didn't have a win shot which he didn't and couldn't get 2nd, what a fucking dick for lack of effort.
As far as I'm concerned, the Indiana Goats are RRD and Larry Bird. ngc3
It's gonna be fun, no, when the competition steps up, now they pay you to qualify in stakes purses races. ngc3
Clean their clock bro! ;D
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Obviously a nice colt. Talented. At this point, LOL. But he certainly looks like he has the potential makings. Moore is a very sharp horseman. Excellent track record of developing and campaigning young horses. He knows what he's doing. Even if this colt was staked to everything, Moore may have kept him home anyway. The Metro and the BC are two very big dances so he'll have his shot. The Gold is no cakewalk either. I like this colt. Big, but very efficient, very well gaited, gets over the ground well. I hope he keeps going forward, develops, matures, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMbNL5g5qiI
Eeeeeeeezeee. Didn't train, wins under wraps. Paddock time and getting ready for the Metro.
Doc Moore said in the interview.....the other horses in this division are all getting better now.....it'll tighten up as the year goes along, it always does.....
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Owned by CALLMEGOO group
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Obviously a nice colt. Talented. At this point, LOL. But he certainly looks like he has the potential makings. Moore is a very sharp horseman. Excellent track record of developing and campaigning young horses. He knows what he's doing. Even if this colt was staked to everything, Moore may have kept him home anyway. The Metro and the BC are two very big dances so he'll have his shot. The Gold is no cakewalk either. I like this colt. Big, but very efficient, very well gaited, gets over the ground well. I hope he keeps going forward, develops, matures, etc.
When I mention Ian Moore people reply "he's a vet"...
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When I mention Ian Moore people reply "he's a vet"...
I would reply back, so what.
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Dr.IAN MOORE.....GREAT TRAINER
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The cynics, critics, naysayers, and the like, will always say he's a vet. They have to. So was John Hayes and John Cummings. About Moore, some will point to the Jug incident and like with any incident, there's the rumors and the truth. I think he's an excellent horseman. He's also a nice guy. It's not like he's some flash in the pan, overnight success, etc. The guy is a lifer, and he's done very well, and made a great deal of progress, over the course of his career. He is well liked and well respected by his peers.
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The cynics, critics, naysayers, and the like, will always say he's a vet. They have to. So was John Hayes and John Cummings. About Moore, some will point to the Jug incident and like with any incident, there's the rumors and the truth. I think he's an excellent horseman. He's also a nice guy. It's not like he's some flash in the pan, overnight success, etc. The guy is a lifer, and he's done very well, and made a great deal of progress, over the course of his career. He is well liked and well respected by his peers.
Blow it out your ass. He got caught cheating and should have lost his Vet license.
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The cynics, critics, naysayers, and the like, will always say he's a vet. They have to. So was John Hayes and John Cummings. About Moore, some will point to the Jug incident and like with any incident, there's the rumors and the truth. I think he's an excellent horseman. He's also a nice guy. It's not like he's some flash in the pan, overnight success, etc. The guy is a lifer, and he's done very well, and made a great deal of progress, over the course of his career. He is well liked and well respected by his peers.
One of the best horsemen in the last 25+ years. Right there with Jimmy T., Ake S, .....mayeb could include Brett Pelling there???
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One of the best horsemen in the last 25+ years. Right there with Jimmy T., Ake S, .....mayeb could include Brett Pelling there???
Arguably; I would agree. Definitely successful. Also, Moore doesn't start out with 30 or 40, or more, babies every year. He runs a fairly small operation. I think this past winter he had about a dozen 2yo's, including some that were sent to him. He certainly produces very good results based upon the numbers.
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Blow it out your ass. He got caught cheating and should have lost his Vet license.
The "he's a vet" comment came from Mohawk from someone in the business. Why does he get a free pass when this community accuses so many others?
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A licensed veterinarian should be stripped of his license if he is caught drugging illegally. Simple as that. It is irrelevant if he is a nice guy. They are held by a code of ethics. No different than when a lawyer breaks the law and is disbarred.
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The "he's a vet" comment came from Mohawk from someone in the business. Why does he get a free pass when this community accuses so many others?
Moore shouldn't get a pass. He didn't. He got fined and the horse got scratched. It was the three judges at the OH Fairgrounds that scratched the horse, not the OHRC. The fact is there was no contraband found, no drugs found, no paraphernalia, and no positive test. There was a detention barn rule/procedure violation. Under the trainer responsibility rule, the buck stops with Moore. I am sure plenty of people will say something got swept under the rug.
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It is the SAME owner of Call Me Goo, the Graham Grace Stable from Virginia. Race 8: https://woodbine.com/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/free_programs/Free_Program_WOH_2025-08-29.pdf
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It is, I think there's a partner or two in on this horse.
Here's the story from SC.....
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/8-27-25/beau-jangles-connections-trying-stay-grounded.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jep5cPg2hZI&t=3s
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Won like a 1-9 shot, LOL. Well, maybe a 1-5, LOL.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMbNL5g5qiI
McClure didn't have a concern in the world, LOL.
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No Royal Richie Doyle tonight in Leg 5? Was looking forward to a showdown with OOMM. Hope all is well with him...looks great so far. tmbz1
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In top form last night.
The Metro final should be a great race.
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The Metro final should be a great race.
I haven't a clue which is the better colt so I'll take a cop out and say it depends on the trip. But here's the problem. I don't think either can win from the front while giving the other guy a tow. And I don't think either can overhaul the front runner from a pocket trip. Soooo... what's going to happen?
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If you think the horses are equal you go with me better driver which is Tetrick, they'll probably be around the same price.
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Last night's race video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxLp4jwIW9A
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Gonna be a hell of a race thats for sure. IMO Beau Jangles wins it 11.wp
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Gonna be a hell of a race thats for sure. IMO Beau Jangles wins it 11.wp
I struggle with believing that a 2 year old colt that big can go that fast. He looks like a breeding stallion. Kind of a jaw dropper.
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I agree there with you 💯 he sure is!
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Both are by sons of Somebeachsomewher e.
Both are from Art Major dams.
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On paper, Frantic looks better than Beau Jangles but Beau Jangles looks to have a lot more in the tank.
So: Beau Jangles > Frantic
But: Tetrick > McClure
https://trackit.standardbredcanada.ca/?op=QRAP&id=1133079&display=
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/frantic+hanover2
https://trackit.standardbredcanada.ca/?op=QRAP&id=1134631
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/beau+jangles5
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I am not a stay hungry fan, but Frantic is a freak of nature. ITS ALL FRANTIC HANOVER
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I struggle with believing that a 2 year old colt that big can go that fast. He looks like a breeding stallion. Kind of a jaw dropper.
How are all of Ian Moore's 2 year olds always built like aged stallions? Is it a supplement or growth hormone , training or muscle building regimen?
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Frantic's last 1/2 in 53.4 and Beau's was 54.3.
Burke is hot hot, his horse will be 2/5 odds.
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Frantic's last 1/2 in 53.4 and Beau's was 54.3.
Burke is hot hot, his horse will be 2/5 odds.
This is going to be a good one I think. You are right, Burke is hot but Doc Moore is as sharp as they come, he'll guy will be ready. I think Bob is also very underrated. You also have Timmy T who is still one of the best in the game and can map out a trip as good as anyone. Should be fun to watch.
Also, I believe these are 2 of then nicest colts we've seen in a while and both sold pretty midrange. Frantic for $35,000 & Beau for $65,000. The dam of Frantic was claimed for a measly $4000 in her last start before being retired while the dam of Beau made only $36,000 lifetime.
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This is going to be a good one I think. You are right, Burke is hot but Doc Moore is as sharp as they come, he'll guy will be ready. I think Bob is also very underrated. You also have Timmy T who is still one of the best in the game and can map out a trip as good as anyone. Should be fun to watch.
Also, I believe these are 2 of then nicest colts we've seen in a while and both sold pretty midrange. Frantic for $35,000 & Beau for $65,000. The dam of Frantic was claimed for a measly $4000 in her last start before being retired while the dam of Beau made only $36,000 lifetime.
Should be a great race
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Two very good colts. Both with a lot of potential. I think BJ is such a big colt, and while he's doing it so easy, I kind of might see him have just a touch of getting a bit lazy or maybe lollygagging a touch, or wanting to. There's a stride or two where he seems to ease up or relax a bit out of the bridle. Hard to tell. Maybe it's just his style. While Moore will have the colt ready and sharp, in part because he's such a big colt, I think he's also thinking about next year. Hard not too. LOL. Burke's colt looks super sharp right now. Alert, on his toes, pacing forward. It could be a serious horse race. Maybe it will come down to the trip, who gets the jump on the other, or a hundred other things. That's why they run the races. LOL. Looking forward to the draw and the odds.
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I think the draw sets it up nice. Beau Jamgles leaving 5 and Timmy T’s colt leaving 2.
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I think the draw sets it up nice. Beau Jamgles leaving 5 and Timmy T’s colt leaving 2.
significant advantage goes to #5
not saying Frantic cant win it and agree TT is much better then BMc -but that draw favors the outer horse
somebody else could win if the race boils over
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Who owns Beau Jangles mare ?
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Who owns Beau Jangles mare ?
Tara Hills Stud is the breeder
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Won the OSS Super Final last night (like he was supposed to) in a complete monsoon. It looked like everyone has having trouble getting a hold of the track. Anyway, 10 for 10, and the original plan was to go to the BC. Ian Moore is an excellent trainer. A real horseman. While each horse is different, once a 2yo hits 10 starts, stakes, open company, a few big miles, etc., I always start to think when/if a 2yo just might be getting a bit tired. Sometimes they don't show it over the last few races and they just show it in one race. This colt hasn't shown it, and he looks like he has great potential. I wonder if Moore is going to still go the the BC.
BTW, last I heard from the farm, his dam is back in foal to Cattlewash. I don't think she has a yearling this year, but she has a Bettors Delight foal (colt) this year.
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Ian Moore is also a vet. Enough said
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Ian Moore is also a vet. Enough said
Yes. He can follow his own advice instead of giving it and having the trainer do whatever they damn well please with it.
I know about his alleged issues. I also think it's an advantage - a perfectly legal one - to be a vet and a trainer.
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Ian Moore is also a vet. Enough said
Uses the same fuel in his horses that he uses in his airplane he flies
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Ian Moore is also a vet. Enough said
I vey good horseman and a very good vet......pretty good combination.
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Won the OSS Super Final last night (like he was supposed to) in a complete monsoon. It looked like everyone has having trouble getting a hold of the track. Anyway, 10 for 10, and the original plan was to go to the BC. Ian Moore is an excellent trainer. A real horseman. While each horse is different, once a 2yo hits 10 starts, stakes, open company, a few big miles, etc., I always start to think when/if a 2yo just might be getting a bit tired. Sometimes they don't show it over the last few races and they just show it in one race. This colt hasn't shown it, and he looks like he has great potential. I wonder if Moore is going to still go the the BC.
BTW, last I heard from the farm, his dam is back in foal to Cattlewash. I don't think she has a yearling this year, but she has a Bettors Delight foal (colt) this year.
He looked sensational winning (as you said, in a monsoon!). The horse also looks beautiful and is simply rigged and exceptionally calm and well-behaved after the race (not the signs of a horse that has been fueled up!). I think he will go to the BC and face the Burke Brigade. From two to three is an enormous opportunity for horses to change (physically and also in how they behave); if Beau Jangles keeps up with his peers in physical growth/development I think he can become an "inner circle" top pacer.
Chantilly, tonight, won, but did not look all that great racing. It is clear that she has "on and off" weeks. I hope she brings her "A" game to the BC, as I think when she is right, she is at the top of her class. Might have a very powerful group of 4yo and up pacing mares next year.
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He looked sensational winning (as you said, in a monsoon!). The horse also looks beautiful and is simply rigged and exceptionally calm and well-behaved after the race (not the signs of a horse that has been fueled up!). I think he will go to the BC and face the Burke Brigade. From two to three is an enormous opportunity for horses to change (physically and also in how they behave); if Beau Jangles keeps up with his peers in physical growth/development I think he can become an "inner circle" top pacer.
Chantilly, tonight, won, but did not look all that great racing. It is clear that she has "on and off" weeks. I hope she brings her "A" game to the BC, as I think when she is right, she is at the top of her class. Might have a very powerful group of 4yo and up pacing mares next year.
If both are 100%, she is not Miki And Minnie. The qualifier did not make me think Miki And Minnie is back to 100%.
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why wouldnt Beau Jangles race in the BC...its home turf and he already beat some of these Burke horses. Nothing to lose here
Ryder treats his horses with the utmost care. He kept Minnie out of Kentucky to rest and he has two weeks to get her right...he doesnt have to win the elim..he has to win the final. If Minnie is no good, Ryder wont race her in the BC
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If both are 100%, she is not Miki And Minnie. The qualifier did not make me think Miki And Minnie is back to 100%.
I agree, Chantilly didn’t look herself….but still won a $300k final. Hopefully she gets back to 100% for the BC.
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Personally, I’d be absolutely shocked if he’s not in the Breeders Crown…. Doesn’t appear to be any wear & tear on him whatsoever ….
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Doc said he'll decide Tuesday morning if BJ will enter BC. Looks likely. I hope so! Will be my first time at Mohawk or any big track
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why wouldnt Beau Jangles race in the BC...its home turf and he already beat some of these Burke horses. Nothing to lose here
Ryder treats his horses with the utmost care. He kept Minnie out of Kentucky to rest and he has two weeks to get her right...he doesnt have to win the elim..he has to win the final. If Minnie is no good, Ryder wont race her in the BC
Agreed. Perfect so far. These 2yo's develop, grow, and so on over the course of the season. I've really liked this colt since day one. I hope he's fit, fresh, healthy, and 100%. Hell, I am hoping he comes back at 3 and is divisional champ, LOL.
Knowing Moore, if this horse shows or tells him anything that he's not 100%, he wouldn't race him. The last race of course tells nothing. But, 10 starts. Pretty long season. Only a 2yo, but he is an early foal. The one X factor for me is that he's a big colt, and he does it so easy...and he just might, just might, be getting a tad lazy on the front end, maybe waiting on horses a very little, etc. Doesn't matter. Moore is an excellent horseman. He knows, better than me, anyone here, and better than almost every trainer out there. As a bettor, of course I pass the race, but as a fan, I hope he wins the BC easy!
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Beau Jangle got Frantic, Ubrute and Show Me Your Ace in his elimination.
Al Papi, Brandon Blvd in the other