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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: SIX SHOOTER on August 21, 2025, 08:43:05 AM
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ANYBODY HAD ANY SUCCESS
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None
Was bidding on a horse and eventually lost him to the owner who was upselling his own fucking horse.
Never used it since.
11.wj
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SAMSTAR
HAS DONE WELL ON THE SIGHT ngc3 ngc3
He buys great trotters from top trainers
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None
Was bidding on a horse and eventually lost him to the owner who was upselling his own fucking horse.
Never used it since.
11.wj
I’ve seen many buy backs. AMac and Carmine A are well known for bidding on their own horses and taking them back.
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I’ve seen many buy backs. AMac and Carmine A are well known for bidding on their own horses and taking them back.
Its called a “reserve”
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Spending tens of thousands on horses sight unseen is a recipe for disaster.
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Spending tens of thousands on horses sight unseen is a recipe for disaster.
Bingo! And even some posted pictures of the horse are phony or very old.
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SAMSTAR
HAS DONE WELL ON THE SIGHT ngc3 ngc3
He buys great trotters from top trainers
Loves getting them from Erv.
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" BUYER BEWARE ".. is the best advice.!!
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Loves getting them from Erv.
;D ;D ;D ;D ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1
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I have bought three off of the site and have done well with all of them
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Its called a “reserve”
In the auction business it is caller “PUSHING”.
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Horse write-ups don't tell the true story. Most say no help, saving money for the sale, tied up in last, sick in last. They don't tell you the horse gets injected every week or has a screw in its ankle. Or is it not safe to be around? I've heard of many that are bought online and never raced again. Many Amish men also attempt to sell their trotters, but often end up repurchasing them. If a poll were ever taken, I would guess 70% turn out to be bad buys
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SAMSTAR
HAS DONE WELL ON THE SIGHT ngc3 ngc3
He buys great trotters from top trainers
LOL!
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Horse write-ups don't tell the true story. Most say no help, saving money for the sale, tied up in last, sick in last. They don't tell you the horse gets injected every week or has a screw in its ankle. Or is it not safe to be around? I've heard of many that are bought online and never raced again. Many Amish men also attempt to sell their trotters, but often end up repurchasing them. If a poll were ever taken, I would guess 70% turn out to be bad buys
Your 70% is probably conservative but also applies to ALL horse purchases
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I bought liteningonthebeac h from a quality trainer and have been delighted with the purchase. My advice is buy from quality people and you will do fine.
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Those sites are all kind of the same. I once tried to get a nice stud to do some breeding with, turns out the description didn't match at all what I got. Oh well!!
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Do your homework, know your owners/trainers, stick to your budget, and you can do ok. Have bought and sold there without issue, but few and far between because a lot of the buyer beware replies above are correct.
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I bought liteningonthebeac h from a quality trainer and have been delighted with the purchase. My advice is buy from quality people and you will do fine.
Good job tmbz1
We all make mistakes at these auctions
God knows I’ve eaten my share tmbz1
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I've been burned more times than not on the site. Also the owner is a douche bag who's out for himself for the commissions and fuck everyone else
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A buyer should not put any validity in the "Owner's Statement" or "Comments" on the website; or on a catalog page from live auction for that matter. Read what the sales contract says.
With ongait, the horse is supposed to be available for inspection, full vetting, x-rays, blood, etc. If not, then that tells you all you need to know. If you cut corners, don't due complete due diligence, and don't leave no stone unturned, then you are asking for problems. It can be cost prohibitive to do if you are trying to buy a really cheap horse. Most horses on the site are about what, $10k to $15k or less. Plus, look at who you are doing business with. Buyer beware!
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Luther Brothers current bid $10,400
Greg got that bid started because anyone that knows that horse in Ohio knows he is a heartless, gutless pos. Looks like he is going to xxxxx any given second in mile. Monticello or Red Shores type horse, maybe Maine.
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I have some success and some failure but always do my research and will not buy off a host of owners and trainers.
Two of my favorite listings this week, here is PT Stable with Keystone Pheonix. He writes here is your chance to buy a very nice horse. The horse has made you 230K while you used Daguet and Dowse.
Rule of thumb, don’t buy off these trainers and people who use these type of trainers regularly. If they are willing to use them think what they think of you as a buyer.
https://ongait.com/Listings/View/35058?search=search%3DKeystone
Open his lines and he is LAME and put on vets list last start. Can you ask me why I would ever bother looking at a listing this guy ever puts up again.
Then I love Greg Luther Binge on Yankee comment-this wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me.
https://ongait.com/Listings/View/35047?search=sort%3DEndingSoonest
In the listing he was able to pay him into the Gerrity at Saratoga which is an invite race only!!! So unless he paid off the race secretary, I doubt he paid him in! PS i don”t believe he paid off the race secretary
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I bought liteningonthebeac h from a quality trainer and have been delighted with the purchase. My advice is buy from quality people and you will do fine.
That is because Brian Brown is a fine individual.
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The horse was everything Brian said he was without exception. I would buy off of Brian anytime!
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The horse was everything Brian said he was without exception. I would buy off of Brian anytime!
This is exactly the ticket. You have to be very careful who you buy off of, but there are nice horses to be had, both here and the PE biweekly sale.
It also matters what you are looking for; some good bred fillies with race-only connections are an angle for breeders, like any auction.
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you can have world champion and 1:47.3 performer Dealt A Winner currently for 6600. The 13 year old popped up at Ocean Downs where he has been pretty competitive with some wins but hasnt he done enough on the track already to earn a retirement. Doesnt Jeffery Snyder have any money to spare since he won over a million $ with him as a 3yo and aged pacer
This classy veteran is 100% sound with no issues. Racing solidly at Ocean Downs, he has been ITM in his last 10 starts, with 6 of those being OTB (including a win in a Pop Up Series Final in his last start). A career winner of over $1.5 million, he has over $23k this year on his card. Only selling because Ocean Downs is closing for the year. He will be a fine addition to anyone's stable.
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you can have world champion and 1:47.3 performer Dealt A Winner currently for 6600. The 13 year old popped up at Ocean Downs where he has been pretty competitive with some wins but hasnt he done enough on the track already to earn a retirement. Doesnt Jeffery Snyder have any money to spare since he won over a million $ with him as a 3yo and aged pacer
This classy veteran is 100% sound with no issues. Racing solidly at Ocean Downs, he has been ITM in his last 10 starts, with 6 of those being OTB (including a win in a Pop Up Series Final in his last start). A career winner of over $1.5 million, he has over $23k this year on his card. Only selling because Ocean Downs is closing for the year. He will be a fine addition to anyone's stable.
I saw this too. One can only hope someone from his past has eyes on this horse because he's one step away from Amish limo status. How disappointing.
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you can have world champion and 1:47.3 performer Dealt A Winner currently for 6600. The 13 year old popped up at Ocean Downs where he has been pretty competitive with some wins but hasnt he done enough on the track already to earn a retirement. Doesnt Jeffery Snyder have any money to spare since he won over a million $ with him as a 3yo and aged pacer
This classy veteran is 100% sound with no issues. Racing solidly at Ocean Downs, he has been ITM in his last 10 starts, with 6 of those being OTB (including a win in a Pop Up Series Final in his last start). A career winner of over $1.5 million, he has over $23k this year on his card. Only selling because Ocean Downs is closing for the year. He will be a fine addition to anyone's stable.
That horse deserves to be retired and live out his older years like a king. A true war horse
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I know he upset Wiggle It Jiggle It in the Cane Pace in 47.3 at the Big M but his finest moment might have been coming first up into a 26.1 2nd quarter and winning in 1:47.3 in the Allerage fighting off McWicked at the finish. Not a big horse at all but a heart of grit showing up week after week for years in the ffa and open ranks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw2tULew51o
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Bought one online 3 months ago and it has already made 70% more than we paid for it. We checked out 4 horses online and got one. We did a LOT of research and texting and phone calls to the trainers and drivers we knew.
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I saw this too. One can only hope someone from his past has eyes on this horse because he's one step away from Amish limo status. How disappointing.
If they are nice and adoptable horses and I had Keystone Phoenix (and owned over 3 years!) they would be off to New Vocations (donate to them they are great). Seriously how could you sell a horse for 3000 dollars and not just the extra 3000 dollar write off. I will give a pass to the broke trainers and buggy horses that fetch real money but horses worth a few thousand dollars I won’t for any owner making money in the industry.
i will say based on Dealt a Winners race lines he is racing every week and successfully too.
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If they are nice and adoptable horses and I had Keystone Phoenix (and owned over 3 years!) they would be off to New Vocations (donate to them they are great). Seriously how could you sell a horse for 3000 dollars and not just the extra 3000 dollar write off. I will give a pass to the broke trainers and buggy horses that fetch real money but horses worth a few thousand dollars I won’t for any owner making money in the industry.
i will say based on Dealt a Winners race lines he is racing every week and successfully too.
We've used NV many times for our retired ones. A good organization for sure. tmbz1
And yes..he is racing well and looks good. What clean legs for an old warhorse. But the reality is he is 13 and winding down. He should be finding a retirement home.