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Title: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: SeattleSlew on August 17, 2025, 08:02:57 AM
Chantilly's prep was a bit screwed up and she seemed to be moving back to top form today; next time they hook up I think the results are reversed and for the rest of this year (if there are no more excuses) Chantilly may show that she is, in fact, the Dan Patch winner for her class this year over Miki and Minnie.  If they keep racing her for a few years I also think she will break Shartin N's all-age record of 1:46.4 (set by Shartin N at the age of 6 at the Meadowlands during a Hambletonian DAY, I believe.)
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Kenny on August 17, 2025, 08:36:31 AM
Chantilly's prep was a bit screwed up and she seemed to be moving back to top form today; next time they hook up I think the results are reversed and for the rest of this year (if there are no more excuses) Chantilly may show that she is, in fact, the Dan Patch winner for her class this year over Miki and Minnie.  If they keep racing her for a few years I also think she will break Shartin N's all-age record of 1:46.4 (set by Shartin N at the age of 6 at the Meadowlands during a Hambletonian DAY, I believe.)

The three mares are very close. I expect they will only race against each other one more time in October in Canada. I would give a slight edge to Miki and Minnie.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 17, 2025, 09:51:46 AM
The three mares are very close. I expect they will only race against each other one more time in October in Canada. I would give a slight edge to Miki and Minnie.
You're kidding. The three mares are close? Shartin N resume is LIGHT YEARS better than the other two combined.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Trigger on August 17, 2025, 10:15:16 AM
Time for a different driver, JMac is done with this one, because competition ain't getting easier, and he and this horse are not clicking any mo! 
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Papillon on August 17, 2025, 10:34:48 AM
Chantilly's prep was a bit screwed up and she seemed to be moving back to top form today; next time they hook up I think the results are reversed and for the rest of this year (if there are no more excuses) Chantilly may show that she is, in fact, the Dan Patch winner for her class this year over Miki and Minnie.  If they keep racing her for a few years I also think she will break Shartin N's all-age record of 1:46.4 (set by Shartin N at the age of 6 at the Meadowlands during a Hambletonian DAY, I believe.)

Chantilly is not staked to any other races but the OSS Gold

they wont meet until November-maybe
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: JT on August 17, 2025, 10:46:21 AM
Chantilly is not staked to any other races but the OSS Gold

they wont meet until November-maybe
I was wondering about that. I don't blame the connections at all. Just hang out in Canada and dominate the OSS Gold.. until the breeders crown.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on August 17, 2025, 11:24:39 AM
Miki and Minnie would have to fall off a cliff not to be 3yo filly pacer of the year.  She will have danced in all the major stakes and Chantilly’s resume will be that of an overqualified sire stakes horse
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: SDST2009 on August 17, 2025, 11:24:43 AM
You're kidding. The three mares are close? Shartin N resume is LIGHT YEARS better than the other two combined.


I think Sylvia will give the 46.4 a run.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Harness racer on August 17, 2025, 11:29:27 AM
You're kidding. The three mares are close? Shartin N resume is LIGHT YEARS better than the other two combined.

100% agree!  They would need to continue dominating for years before they are in Shartin’s league!  They are great 3yo filly’s, but let’s not talk crazy just yet.  This is like comparing Beckeith to John Campbell!   ngc3
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Papillon on August 17, 2025, 11:29:33 AM
The three mares are very close. I expect they will only race against each other one more time in October in Canada. I would give a slight edge to Miki and Minnie.

how can anyone possibly compare 3yo fillies, who's season isn't over yet, to an accomplished 6yo mare?

too many races to be run before that--and very iffy if either will race beyond the age of 3

getting way ahead of yourself
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Jazzman on August 17, 2025, 04:56:54 PM
come on guys that was a great match reverse post positions and i think different result
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Azed on August 18, 2025, 09:21:30 AM
I took Kenny to be referring to Miki and Minnie, Chantilly and Rodeo Drive Deo all being close and the three will only race against each other one more time this year  (BC)
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Parked on August 18, 2025, 09:41:46 AM
Who trained Shartin N. ..  oh, thought so.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: hoosierboy on August 18, 2025, 09:50:22 AM

I think Sylvia will give the 46.4 a run.

I think this fall at the red mile with the right weather, track condition,  Sylvia and Twin B match could defintley become a new world record.  Finish could go either way
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 10:18:14 AM
I took Kenny to be referring to Miki and Minnie, Chantilly and Rodeo Drive Deo all being close and the three will only race against each other one more time this year  (BC)

I certainly did not

Rodeo Drive Deo wasnt mentioned in his post, but Shartin was

maybe Kenny for further elaborate

Chantilly raced well vs Minnie--actually put her back in the pocket briefly on the far turn

since Chantilly blasted and made the lead easily-i doubt post positions played any roll in the outcome

Miki Minnie doesn't have any early speed--DD did well to get her where she was before the racing really started
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Ramone on August 18, 2025, 11:05:19 AM

since Chantilly blasted and made the lead easily


NOT easily. That mega leaving move must have come at considerable cost. In hindsight she could have made the front much slower. Her first 100 yards was as fast as I can remember anywhere.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Anakin on August 18, 2025, 12:28:04 PM
NOT easily. That mega leaving move must have come at considerable cost. In hindsight she could have made the front much slower. Her first 100 yards was as fast as I can remember anywhere.

Zero excuse. Was lucky to hold 2nd.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Kenny on August 18, 2025, 07:02:45 PM
Zero excuse. Was lucky to hold 2nd.

James ended her chance of winning at the very start. Both Miki and Minnie and Rodeo Drive Deo got perfect trips drafting for most of the mile.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Anakin on August 18, 2025, 09:28:19 PM
James ended her chance of winning at the very start. Both Miki and Minnie and Rodeo Drive Deo got perfect trips drafting for most of the mile.

You do realize that this race was at Pocono Downs, which is one of the most (if not the most) speed favoring track in North America?? Half the races on Saturday were won by horses on the front, which is pretty typical for Pocono.
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: Kenny on August 19, 2025, 07:55:11 AM
You do realize that this race was at Pocono Downs, which is one of the most (if not the most) speed favoring track in North America?? Half the races on Saturday were won by horses on the front, which is pretty typical for Pocono.

You do realize 25.4? You do realize she only lost by less than a length? You do realize Miki and Minnie drafted behind her for 7/8th of the mile?
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: JT on August 19, 2025, 08:05:21 AM
Geez give this thread a rest already. They are both great fillies and either one could beat  the other on any given day. Anyone on here would love to own a piece of either one. The rematch won't happen until the breeders crown unfortunately

 
Title: Re: Chantilly/Miki and Minnie
Post by: SDST2009 on August 19, 2025, 10:49:37 AM
You do realize 25.4? You do realize she only lost by less than a length? You do realize Miki and Minnie drafted behind her for 7/8th of the mile?

I also thought the first 1/4 (or more accurately, the first 1/8) was a bit excessive. I do think they’re pretty even fillies, but don’t think
Chantilly can be at peak tightness just yet. Might be a different story come Breeder’s Crown (and on her home turf, no less).
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