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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Trigger on August 12, 2025, 10:52:08 PM
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Dear AGCO Co-Conspirators,
When your family buys food with the money you earn, with the money you profit off of by letting that colony of corrupt driving fucks steal at Mohawk, is it rotten poisonous food that is put on your dining table?
If the food you eat is not poisonously rotten I hope it turns as poisonously rotten in your family's bellies as the poisonously rotten product that gets churned out week after week at Mohawk and served to me, us under your guidance and full support.
Race staging, race tampering, stiffed horses, no tries, fruitless last second efforts, courtesy pulls and tucks that absolutely have jeopardized the chance of the horse that the driver allows it.
Moreau, 10 consecutive years O'Brien trainer of the year, then what, his performance antics just start last year? Who buys that that bullshit lol.
Mohawk has a new name classification, Mohawk Sucker Track. I can't help that I'm invested in on horses I follow, so if I wager there while this bullshit continues, at least I can share in the acknowledgment, I, we're all suckers thanks to y'all. But the anger I feel, many of us do, has grown into a rage.
Just like you used Moreau to set an example, of what I don't know, maybe how he fell out of grace with y'all, because whatever wrong he did, didn't start last year, and if you didn't know none of you belong there, you're oversight beyond regulatory is politicians and they could make an example of you when they're being scrutinized and need a fall guy.
ADW's, simulcast, casino owned racetracks, casinos, sports books, racetracks, tote companies I don't see why they need to take that shit hole track's action, it can go somewhere else like it always does, nor why any Canadian owned horses, drivers, trainers needs to be allowed to race here in the US. The current climate is ripe for that.
That's how nice people do it, leverage, media, politicians. The fact is, there is no playing nice with organized crime, it needs to be countered with a true lawful justice far greater than their force, that justice inflicts it's dominance and subdues the scum in an overwhelming manner.
So ask yourself, is it worth it? Do you think every fucking asshole involved is going to remain silent while the rest of us continue to digest this poisonous rotten product you serve to those you surely don't think of as humans, neither gamblers, nor fans, you think of us as weak suckers.
I understand if it can't stop you won't allow it to stop, the greed and incestuous relationships and all that money. History - no one stays on top forever, nothing lasts forever, no one lives forever - and there is no better time to make all your collective bullshit stop.
You're so predictable - What race?, lol, thousands. We won't be playing that game.
You can never say you weren't sat down and given that heart to heart you vile cunts.
Wishing you all the same that you've done on to us,
Trigger
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The dust bin of days past is full of race tracks that were too big or held too much history to be closed led down the same path as what you have described here in your post. Short sighted crooks who sold tomorrow for todays ill gotten gains, sadly someday it catches up, just think Roosevelt Raceway and Freehold Raceway.
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Dear AGCO Co-Conspirators,
When your family buys food with the money you earn, with the money you profit off of by letting that colony of corrupt driving fucks steal at Mohawk, is it rotten poisonous food that is put on your dining table?
If the food you eat is not poisonously rotten I hope it turns as poisonously rotten in your family's bellies as the poisonously rotten product that gets churned out week after week at Mohawk and served to me, us under your guidance and full support.
Race staging, race tampering, stiffed horses, no tries, fruitless last second efforts, courtesy pulls and tucks that absolutely have jeopardized the chance of the horse that the driver allows it.
Moreau, 10 consecutive years O'Brien trainer of the year, then what, his performance antics just start last year? Who buys that that bullshit lol.
Mohawk has a new name classification, Mohawk Sucker Track. I can't help that I'm invested in on horses I follow, so if I wager there while this bullshit continues, at least I can share in the acknowledgment, I, we're all suckers thanks to y'all. But the anger I feel, many of us do, has grown into a rage.
Just like you used Moreau to set an example, of what I don't know, maybe how he fell out of grace with y'all, because whatever wrong he did, didn't start last year, and if you didn't know none of you belong there, you're oversight beyond regulatory is politicians and they could make an example of you when they're being scrutinized and need a fall guy.
ADW's, simulcast, casino owned racetracks, casinos, sports books, racetracks, tote companies I don't see why they need to take that shit hole track's action, it can go somewhere else like it always does, nor why any Canadian owned horses, drivers, trainers needs to be allowed to race here in the US. The current climate is ripe for that.
That's how nice people do it, leverage, media, politicians. The fact is, there is no playing nice with organized crime, it needs to be countered with a true lawful justice far greater than their force, that justice inflicts it's dominance and subdues the scum in an overwhelming manner.
So ask yourself, is it worth it? Do you think every fucking asshole involved is going to remain silent while the rest of us continue to digest this poisonous rotten product you serve to those you surely don't think of as humans, neither gamblers, nor fans, you think of us as weak suckers.
I understand if it can't stop you won't allow it to stop, the greed and incestuous relationships and all that money. History - no one stays on top forever, nothing lasts forever, no one lives forever - and there is no better time to make all your collective bullshit stop.
You're so predictable - What race?, lol, thousands. We won't be playing that game.
You can never say you weren't sat down and given that heart to heart you vile cunts.
Wishing you all the same that you've done on to us,
Trigger
So sad to hear about all your loses. Must be the race track’s fault you have no clue how to handicap? You’re never wrong , just ask yourself.
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Dear AGCO Co-Conspirators,
When your family buys food with the money you earn, with the money you profit off of by letting that colony of corrupt driving fucks steal at Mohawk, is it rotten poisonous food that is put on your dining table?
If the food you eat is not poisonously rotten I hope it turns as poisonously rotten in your family's bellies as the poisonously rotten product that gets churned out week after week at Mohawk and served to me, us under your guidance and full support.
Race staging, race tampering, stiffed horses, no tries, fruitless last second efforts, courtesy pulls and tucks that absolutely have jeopardized the chance of the horse that the driver allows it.
Moreau, 10 consecutive years O'Brien trainer of the year, then what, his performance antics just start last year? Who buys that that bullshit lol.
Mohawk has a new name classification, Mohawk Sucker Track. I can't help that I'm invested in on horses I follow, so if I wager there while this bullshit continues, at least I can share in the acknowledgment, I, we're all suckers thanks to y'all. But the anger I feel, many of us do, has grown into a rage.
Just like you used Moreau to set an example, of what I don't know, maybe how he fell out of grace with y'all, because whatever wrong he did, didn't start last year, and if you didn't know none of you belong there, you're oversight beyond regulatory is politicians and they could make an example of you when they're being scrutinized and need a fall guy.
ADW's, simulcast, casino owned racetracks, casinos, sports books, racetracks, tote companies I don't see why they need to take that shit hole track's action, it can go somewhere else like it always does, nor why any Canadian owned horses, drivers, trainers needs to be allowed to race here in the US. The current climate is ripe for that.
That's how nice people do it, leverage, media, politicians. The fact is, there is no playing nice with organized crime, it needs to be countered with a true lawful justice far greater than their force, that justice inflicts it's dominance and subdues the scum in an overwhelming manner.
So ask yourself, is it worth it? Do you think every fucking asshole involved is going to remain silent while the rest of us continue to digest this poisonous rotten product you serve to those you surely don't think of as humans, neither gamblers, nor fans, you think of us as weak suckers.
I understand if it can't stop you won't allow it to stop, the greed and incestuous relationships and all that money. History - no one stays on top forever, nothing lasts forever, no one lives forever - and there is no better time to make all your collective bullshit stop.
You're so predictable - What race?, lol, thousands. We won't be playing that game.
You can never say you weren't sat down and given that heart to heart you vile cunts.
Wishing you all the same that you've done on to us,
Trigger
What they did last night was disgusting! They pull that crap a couple times a year and what is even more disgusting is how they were all laughing and found it to be funny. Not a bit funny when they are stealing from the betting public. They were all fucking around last night. Zero effort from Both and a few others. That wasn't even racing! It was a total shit show! Total circus! They even said on Monday that when the big shots are out of town, the little guys (aka losers) will have a chance to score wins. RACE FIXING AT ITS FINEST ! I didn't wager anything. Rarely do at that track. Probably won't ever again. I've seen enough.
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The dust bin of days past is full of race tracks that were too big or held too much history to be closed led down the same path as what you have described here in your post. Short sighted crooks who sold tomorrow for todays ill gotten gains, sadly someday it catches up, just think Roosevelt Raceway and Freehold Raceway.
What they did last night was disgusting! They pull that crap a couple times a year and what is even more disgusting is how they were all laughing and found it to be funny. Not a bit funny when they are stealing from the betting public. They were all fucking around last night. Zero effort from Both and a few others. That wasn't even racing! It was a total shit show! Total circus! They even said on Monday that when the big shots are out of town, the little guys (aka losers) will have a chance to score wins. RACE FIXING AT ITS FINEST ! I didn't wager anything. Rarely do at that track. Probably won't ever again. I've seen enough.
Mohawk's handles have dropped significantly. Monday and Tuesday handles a year ago that were 2-3 mil were 1.33m and 1.72m this last Monday and Tuesday.
They have their casino, Elements, and even penny slots, and have so much more than can expand too: https://woodbine.com/mohawk/elements-casino-mohawk/
Racing gets treated differently in Canada, they have had total government support, pre-casino, it's webbed into their politics and the horseman and their community have a solid lobby. Racing in Canada may never die, they might even expand based on decoupling and decline in the US and absorb all that there.
There are professional gambler, handicapper chat rooms, they're not as free with their words as us like Birdfantammy, myself and everyone else, but they agree in a great majority, Mohawk has become for some time a track that can't be wagered on by them.
The blind eyes are huge in Canada regulatory, and when they do take action it's all part of the facade of the hundred million that need to go out the back door through illegality each and every year.
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So sad to hear about all your loses. Must be the race track’s fault you have no clue how to handicap? You’re never wrong , just ask yourself.
Simple angry pigeon chessington, scanned over your 100+ posts, took a minute lol ngc3 a lot of substance there ngc3 -
Pro Trump, and 8 more years of JD Vance after Trump, Pro Jewish, Pro establishment and anti-black, anti-New York, and wait for moments you can insult gamblers. You're invested zero in racing, not as a horseman, owner, gambler, fan just comment on the periphery superficially which typically indicates you're BROKE!
Your mentality fits in here with some beyond politics which I could care less about either way, sad that you're a coward when it comes to racing - your purely an observer and heckler and nothing else. ;D
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So sad to hear about all your loses. Must be the race track’s fault you have no clue how to handicap? You’re never wrong , just ask yourself.
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Shitty little pigeon has come home - all that matters, coo for me / against me, you made it home is all that matters as I am in part your life! tmbz1
This dumb fucker is reliable! ;D
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Mohawk's handles have dropped significantly. Monday and Tuesday handles a year ago that were 2-3 mil were 1.33m and 1.72m this last Monday and Tuesday.
They have their casino, Elements, and even penny slots, and have so much more than can expand too: https://woodbine.com/mohawk/elements-casino-mohawk/
Racing gets treated differently in Canada, they have had total government support, pre-casino, it's webbed into their politics and the horseman and their community have a solid lobby. Racing in Canada may never die, they might even expand based on decoupling and decline in the US and absorb all that there.
There are professional gambler, handicapper chat rooms, they're not as free with their words as us like Birdfantammy, myself and everyone else, but they agree in a great majority, Mohawk has become for some time a track that can't be wagered on by them.
The blind eyes are huge in Canada regulatory, and when they do take action it's all part of the facade of the hundred million that need to go out the back door through illegality each and every year.
well thought out and accurate--excellent, Sir tmbz1
I will add the CAW action comes in later then most tracks and the leavers gets pounded and in all pools
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"....full government support..."
Sure, especially when the liberal government fucked them out of their share of casino revenue years ago lmao.
You do realize how it works at Woodbine, don't you?
They are landlords who rent spaceto Great Canadian Gaming. They don't receive anything based on casino profits. Just rent money.
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"....full government support..."
Sure, especially when the liberal government fucked them out of their share of casino revenue years ago lmao.
You do realize how it works at Woodbine, don't you?
They are landlords who rent spaceto Great Canadian Gaming. They don't receive anything based on casino profits. Just rent money.
I appreciate your insight, thank you, I did not know the liberal government history and how it negatively impacted, and I only knew of Great Canadian Gaming when downloading Georgian Downs programs.
Importantly for my own selfish purposes, I want as clean a racing product as possible which seemingly benefits the honest horseman that want their share for their successful efforts that are often diluted into the corruption, when the scales aren't tipped by those doing illegal, and those regulatory aren't allowing it this shitshow will be something, likely not perfect but manageable enough to engage.
Why this was a "First Draft" so it can bring that intelligence forward like y'all are doing.
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The game has always been the same and it will never change. When money and humans are involved, larceny will always rear its ugly head.
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The game has always been the same and it will never change. When money and humans are involved, larceny will always rear its ugly head.
tmbz1 True dat
Instantly reminded me of a quote from that HBO show on street drug dealing - "The Wire" - "The game is the game." - Avon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSXm4FUmE5g
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"Follow the money but you may not like where it takes you." Lester Freamon "The Wire"
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"Follow the money but you may not like where it takes you." Lester Freamon "The Wire"
ngc3
That's it, Sold, I'll be binge listening the audio again this week on The Wire. My handicapping background noise needs something new. Comedy sure ain't working! ;D
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Just look back to the Saturday 11 race program that featured just 12 drivers. The pie is big enough for all of them, they don't need to bang heads with each other every night. Same guys that show up at Dresden and Clinton on a Sunday afternoon to race for Prospect Series money.