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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Unclejerry on July 15, 2025, 07:12:23 PM
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I was wanting to get into Fractional ownership, everything seems to be locked up right now online, does anyone know when 2 or 3 year olds will come available or anyone selling a fractional share.
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Stay away from Anthony MacDonald and the Stable. Horse abuser and con artist.
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Stay away from Anthony MacDonald and the Stable. Horse abuser and con artist.
Thank You, any good ones you would recommend?
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Anthony MacDonald and the Stable do a great job. Buys good horses, uses very good trainers and drives many of them himself. Don't let sour, jealous people stop you from checking him out!
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Anthony MacDonald and the Stable do a great job. Buys good horses, uses very good trainers and drives many of them himself. Don't let sour, jealous people stop you from checking him out!
Thank You. they seem to do a good job and make money
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I was wanting to get into Fractional ownership, everything seems to be locked up right now online, does anyone know when 2 or 3 year olds will come available or anyone selling a fractional share.
Define 'fractional ownership'?
You're probably better off finding a trainer that you like, deal with, and trust his/her judgment and get into partnership with them. You're better off having your trainer with a piece of the horse as they will want to be in on lessening expenses and making $$$. Generally, many trainers want a 10% involvement (and even then, they are not crazy about this percentage [they generally want 15%+}). You also get to deal with your trainer directly, ask questions, go to the barn, et al.
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Define 'fractional ownership'?
You're probably better off finding a trainer that you like, deal with, and trust his/her judgment and get into partnership with them. You're better off having your trainer with a piece of the horse as they will want to be in on lessening expenses and making $$$. Generally, many trainers want a 10% involvement (and even then, they are not crazy about this percentage [they generally want 15%+}). You also get to deal with your trainer directly, ask questions, go to the barn, et al.
And feed them carrots tmbz1
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Define 'fractional ownership'?
You're probably better off finding a trainer that you like, deal with, and trust his/her judgment and get into partnership with them. You're better off having your trainer with a piece of the horse as they will want to be in on lessening expenses and making $$$. Generally, many trainers want a 10% involvement (and even then, they are not crazy about this percentage [they generally want 15%+}). You also get to deal with your trainer directly, ask questions, go to the barn, et al.
5% ownership and trainer responsibility. (same as Driver)
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https://goforglorystable.com/
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And feed them carrots tmbz1
Actually, sweet potatoes are healthier!! tmbz1
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https://goforglorystable.com/
Thank You tmbz1
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Thank You. they seem to do a good job and make money
Unsolicited advice, if you think buying into the stable is a legitimate opportunity to make money, you'd better think again. You're paying him for an experience. It's not an investment
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Anthony MacDonald and the Stable do a great job. Buys good horses, uses very good trainers and drives many of them himself. Don't let sour, jealous people stop you from checking him out!
His (AMac) is a very smart business model.
His timing was impeccable.
His location was impeccable.
He has name recognition.
He put a large team together, they're fairly organized, and their affiliates i.e. trainers, etc are fair to good.
His clients do not want the sole or limited partnership financial exposure at any level of owning, maintaining, the responsibility of a standardbred.
Costs are in line with affordable for this type typically middle aged, middle income client.
Yet these clients want to be an owner participant, and have inside communications and access, sure a bunch of giddy bottom feeders.
Based on the amount of TheStable's horse inventory and demand, it really is a matter of time until they start striking it big.
I'm not jealous, sour, on the operation, just The Arrogant Old Lady Big Mouth Ego-maniacal Sociopath helming it.
For that reason, I wouldn't invest in his fractional ownership, even if I wanted to be a fractional owner and I DO NOT.
For more recent information, visit the Save America thread.
Please feel free to share the financial side of the success stories of investing with TheStable, thank you.
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Unsolicited advice, if you think buying into the stable is a legitimate opportunity to make money, you'd better think again. You're paying him for an experience. It's not an investment
I got money to throw away, just want into the biz, no worry's about the money. (Weaver Bruscemi want to be)
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His (AMac) is a very smart business model.
His timing was impeccable.
His location was impeccable.
He has name recognition.
He put a large team together, they're fairly organized, and their affiliates i.e. trainers, etc are fair to good.
His clients do not want the sole or limited partnership financial exposure at any level of owning, maintaining, the responsibility of a standardbred.
Costs are in line with affordable for this type typically middle aged, middle income client.
Yet these clients want to be an owner participant, and have inside communications and access, sure a bunch of giddy bottom feeders.
Based on the amount of TheStable's horse inventory and demand, it really is a matter of time until they start striking it big.
I'm not jealous, sour, on the operation, just The Arrogant Old Lady Big Mouth Ego-maniacal Sociopath helming it.
For that reason, I wouldn't invest in his fractional ownership, even if I wanted to be a fractional owner and I DO NOT.
For more recent information, visit the Save America thread.
Please feel free to share the financial side of the success stories of investing with TheStable, thank you.
Ai Answer
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Ai Answer
You should call AMac immediately if you believe that.
He's got a deal for you! ;D
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You should call AMac immediately if you believe that.
He's got a deal for you! ;D
Already called tmbz1
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Already called tmbz1
He makes it very clear you don’t have a say and doesn’t ever want to be questioned. I talked to someone who told me he didn’t even want the fractional owners talking to each other about the decisions being made. That was crazy to me!
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Already called tmbz1
Don't wish you failure, only success!
The best of luck, fun and big $$$ to ya!
Don't forget to mention to him Uncle Jerry's Prime Picks!
Both of you combined, AMac-UncleJerry are going to make a powerhouse! 15za.bd
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Don't wish you failure, only success!
The best of luck, fun and big $$$ to ya!
Don't forget to mention to him Uncle Jerry's Prime Picks!
Both of you combined, AMac-UncleJerry are going to make a powerhouse! 15za.bd
Dont be jealous ngc3
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Dont be jealous ngc3
tmbz1
You got me!
Time to fess up!
I often cry myself to sleep knowing I don't have 10,000 broke ass dwarf minded retards that have me on speed dial!
Shux! ;D
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If you have no worry about throwing money around and actually want to make a bit too, I would not recommend The Stable. If you are interested in owning a piece of a horse just for fun, then would absolutely recommend The Stable.
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straight from the Amac website:
Unfortunately, due to privacy restrictions, we cannot share or openly post all of the names of clients associated with each horse.
Reason for this is that Amac does not want 51% of the ownership to get together and force him to do the right thing. Also, if he buys a horse from his buddy Palermo beware that the horse stinks and right now look at when and for how much he bought Nasa for AFTER Amac said the horse was not worth I believe $25K until his buddy Palermo called and "convinced" Amac to pay $30K for Nasa and if I am right so far he has earned ZERO except for Palermo and the money Amac skimmed off the top!!
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straight from the Amac website:
Unfortunately, due to privacy restrictions, we cannot share or openly post all of the names of clients associated with each horse.
Who is he fooling, lol!
He couldn't remember Hughes name for sure who speed dueled Save America onto an operating table with Murphy's guidance.
I'm not so sure about the privacy for that reason, from what I recall it is not about majority ownership, that TheStable reserves the right to make all decisions i.e. buying, selling, tracks, entering races, trainers, drivers, etc. and the yo yo's all have to sign off on it.
AMac if he could remember a name he'd blab it out in 2 secs. No one on planet earth has the yapping stamina to him, and a master at the irrelevant and when something important happens he's the cliffhanger mesiter general.
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Anthony MacDonald and the Stable do a great job. Buys good horses, uses very good trainers and drives many of them himself. Don't let sour, jealous people stop you from checking him out!
I heard this owner/trainer Bill Bercury would be a good one to get into this business with. B 73cv.2
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crazy prices on Two Pistol Annie ($39,000) and Charming Princess ($29,900)
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Actually, sweet potatoes are healthier!! tmbz1
!00 per cent correct and are better for them also. Less sugar
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Uncle Jerry.....the advise from Rainman2 would be solid. He's had good success in the biz with "fractional ownership".
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"You're probably better off finding a trainer that you like, deal with, and trust his/her judgment and get into partnership with them."
Rainman and I agree on very little, but we have found common ground on the ownership piece.
Even better if you have a couple of friends that want to do the same thing.
Find a good trainer and take a group to him that want 30% or more of a horse. He'll take a bit and will have a couple of owners that he can add to fill up the 100%.
Get involved in the process of buying a 2 year old. Make notes in a catalogue. Watch the videos. Go to the sale.
Interesting and fun.
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A. Mac can't afford to allow membership to intermingle because if one of his army started their own operation, the lid would be blown off when ACTUAL EXPENCES were realized! Life is full of fun and games when all your personal experiences are rolled into the training bills! tmbz1
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"You're probably better off finding a trainer that you like, deal with, and trust his/her judgment and get into partnership with them."
Rainman and I agree on very little, but we have found common ground on the ownership piece.
Even better if you have a couple of friends that want to do the same thing.
Find a good trainer and take a group to him that want 30% or more of a horse. He'll take a bit and will have a couple of owners that he can add to fill up the 100%.
Get involved in the process of buying a 2 year old. Make notes in a catalogue. Watch the videos. Go to the sale.
Interesting and fun.
Thaks for the compliment for a change. tmbz1 tmbz1
Many posters who haven't feel free to ask here on plop!
The advice is free, and you can read for yourselves whether the advice is valid or not based on the person posting and perhaps on how others critique the answers here!
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There is a fractional ownership group in Ontario.called Landmark...run by the Steacy operation....they buy yearlings each year and parcel them out....they dont buy and sell older horses...i believe they look to sell them after their 3yr old season.....so wait until the Fall and investigate the operation........ ..The Steacys have been around for years with a good reputation
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darnoldrocks..... rainman2 has done better than probably 90% of the suckers who lost money in "the biz". I know, because i'm one of the 90%! LOL! I've owned both thoroughbreds and harness horses. I've lost cash in both. But more in harness racing. So his advise is from experience, not just from speculation. His relationship with his trainer is solid, and because of his loyalty, he gets a "piece" of the good young stock. As always, it's still a big gamble. But rainman2's "fractional ownership" has proved that you can have fun and still make a few bucks too!
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Thanks Everyone foe your kind comments