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Title: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 11, 2025, 11:27:14 PM
race 7--#11 Sabonis--Dunn will figure out a trip and its Pelling on a huge night of racing 


race 8--#9 Sylvia-was given a perfect trip with TBJF doing all the work-Dunn's horse didn't look that sharp last week, Sylvia could be back to top form and actually be a better mare right now and the odds will be right and it is Tetrick. DD drove TBJF like a 1/9 shot going first over, underestimating Sylvia, and he got Tetricked...and it could happen again


race 9-- #9 Ken Hanover--just razor sharp right now and no reason to think he cant make it 6 straight, the guy driving with the purple colors usually knows what to do in these spots

race 12--#11 Miki and Minnie was real good at Mohawk, then the last effort was a complete no try by Dunn for a small purse, doesn't have much early speed so post #11 not that bad expect DD to really try and get this talented filly some type of decent trip-Ryder tops with fillies and mares

one of the main reasons I found these 4 is that they wont get pounded by CAW action after the race starts except maybe Ken Hanover--and only if he blasts hard and makes the front--post #11 will stymie obvious gate advantages so they are somewhat immune to CAW after the bell action

also-these 4 are no price picks by any means-but the posts they have drawn will only enhance the odds they usually would be, so they might actually be of value in these spots
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SeattleSlew on July 12, 2025, 06:05:48 AM
Notes of interest (and of course will be watching for equipment changes, although Ake often bears the $100 fine for not reporting on a timely basis):
1.) Detention Barn races: 7,8,9,10,11
2.) 13 horse field for the 9th race which goes 1 1/8 mile
3.) 8th Race-#3 adds Lasix (not noted at top of Trackmaster I have) and 2nd time Lasix for #8
4.) 9th Race-NO LASIX PERMITTED so #2,#5,#8 and #12 are WITHOUT Lasix after racing last time with Lasix.
5.) 11th Race-#6 1st time Lasix  (Fallout)
6.) 12th Race-#11 Qualified with Lasix and 1st time racing with Lasix (Miki and Mini)
Also, if someone has the original drivers named, it will be helpful to see the choices made.

Great night to watch, and only leaning I have is for the Pace where I think Fallout could come up big without LouPrint there.  He was gutted by Tetrick in the NA Cup elimination 5 weeks ago, has had a chance to get his wind back and now adds Lasix in a race where there should be a very hot pace set.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: whiptherabbit on July 12, 2025, 07:36:19 AM
Race#2-#6 WHATS STANLEY GOT A 8-1 ML I. Contention every start, he’s due to break out for a win & at a price.

Race#7-#3 COACH STEFANOS 3-1 ML James just seems to really get along with this guy, big fractions up front will set it up for his late kick in the final eighth of a mile.

Race#9-#7 HIGHLAND KISMET 20-1 ML This is your typical feast or famine trotter. The bad news is with the added distance, it gives him more opportunity to make a break. The good news is you’ll never get him at this high of a price ever again in this bloated contest. I’ll lay the money down on Dunn with a bomb on the tote board.

Best of luck!  tmbz1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Loose Horse on July 12, 2025, 08:24:27 AM
Is CAW in the room with you right now?
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 12, 2025, 09:40:42 AM
race 7--#11 Sabonis--Dunn will figure out a trip and its Pelling on a huge night of racing 


race 8--#9 Sylvia-was given a perfect trip with TBJF doing all the work-Dunn's horse didn't look that sharp last week, Sylvia could be back to top form and actually be a better mare right now and the odds will be right and it is Tetrick. DD drove TBJF like a 1/9 shot going first over, underestimating Sylvia, and he got Tetricked...and it could happen again


race 9-- #9 Ken Hanover--just razor sharp right now and no reason to think he cant make it 6 straight, the guy driving with the purple colors usually knows what to do in these spots

race 12--#11 Miki and Minnie was real good at Mohawk, then the last effort was a complete no try by Dunn for a small purse, doesn't have much early speed so post #11 not that bad expect DD to really try and get this talented filly some type of decent trip-Ryder tops with fillies and mares

one of the main reasons I found these 4 is that they wont get pounded by CAW action after the race starts except maybe Ken Hanover--and only if he blasts hard and makes the front--post #11 will stymie obvious gate advantages so they are somewhat immune to CAW after the bell action

also-these 4 are no price picks by any means-but the posts they have drawn will only enhance the odds they usually would be, so they might actually be of value in these spots
   You're always wrong!  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: JT on July 12, 2025, 09:42:23 AM
Go crawl back in your hole. Oh I forgot.. "Who hurt you ?"
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 12, 2025, 09:45:41 AM
Go crawl back in your hole. Oh I forgot.. "Who hurt you ?"

  Mike, could that be you Mike?   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: camfan12 on July 12, 2025, 11:17:51 AM
Notes of interest (and of course will be watching for equipment changes, although Ake often bears the $100 fine for not reporting on a timely basis):
1.) Detention Barn races: 7,8,9,10,11
2.) 13 horse field for the 9th race which goes 1 1/8 mile
3.) 8th Race-#3 adds Lasix (not noted at top of Trackmaster I have) and 2nd time Lasix for #8
4.) 9th Race-NO LASIX PERMITTED so #2,#5,#8 and #12 are WITHOUT Lasix after racing last time with Lasix.
5.) 11th Race-#6 1st time Lasix  (Fallout)
6.) 12th Race-#11 Qualified with Lasix and 1st time racing with Lasix (Miki and Mini)
Also, if someone has the original drivers named, it will be helpful to see the choices made.

Great night to watch, and only leaning I have is for the Pace where I think Fallout could come up big without LouPrint there.  He was gutted by Tetrick in the NA Cup elimination 5 weeks ago, has had a chance to get his wind back and now adds Lasix in a race where there should be a very hot pace set.

 Miki and Minnie
"We put her on Lasix and I believe she's a whole lot better for it." - Chris Ryder (Trainer)
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: bello on July 12, 2025, 11:44:04 AM
   You're always wrong!  ngc3 ngc3
You are a jerk.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 12:14:20 PM
race 7--#11 Sabonis--Dunn will figure out a trip and its Pelling on a huge night of racing 


race 8--#9 Sylvia-was given a perfect trip with TBJF doing all the work-Dunn's horse didn't look that sharp last week, Sylvia could be back to top form and actually be a better mare right now and the odds will be right and it is Tetrick. DD drove TBJF like a 1/9 shot going first over, underestimating Sylvia, and he got Tetricked...and it could happen again


race 9-- #9 Ken Hanover--just razor sharp right now and no reason to think he cant make it 6 straight, the guy driving with the purple colors usually knows what to do in these spots

race 12--#11 Miki and Minnie was real good at Mohawk, then the last effort was a complete no try by Dunn for a small purse, doesn't have much early speed so post #11 not that bad expect DD to really try and get this talented filly some type of decent trip-Ryder tops with fillies and mares

one of the main reasons I found these 4 is that they wont get pounded by CAW action after the race starts except maybe Ken Hanover--and only if he blasts hard and makes the front--post #11 will stymie obvious gate advantages so they are somewhat immune to CAW after the bell action

also-these 4 are no price picks by any means-but the posts they have drawn will only enhance the odds they usually would be, so they might actually be of value in these spots

   You're always wrong!  ngc3 ngc3

I doesn't matter if he's wrong or correct, at least he has the courage to make a choice on an open forum!!

Because most don't.

Good Luck To All!!

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Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: The Answer on July 12, 2025, 12:28:39 PM
My suggestion is to bet SZ all night and you will come out with a positive ROI. Has quite a few live long shots. Might be a little prejudice as his father used to be my favorite driver and cashed many a ticket on him at the old Woodbine.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Brkn Headpole on July 12, 2025, 12:30:04 PM
Here a few price horses to use in horizontals.

R4 #6 Looks like being prepped for Hambo. Looks ready may take down heavy fave Maryland.

R6 #3 Interesting McCarthy stays with 3, done everything asked of it so far this year after banking 350k last year.
     #7 Well prepped, Melander off the qua, bet down every start last year. May be poised for upset.

R9 #9 Date Night Hanover. Elista Hanover raced huge in last but this guy got pinned to rail shuffled out back and was 5th over. Zeron didnt get after it too much but she rallied thru stretch mite get better flow and added distance may help.

    #11 Women of Passion Dislike the post but if she is gonna be 15-1 or more I can think of alot worse horses Ive bet. Went a big mile last year in Lex lil worried shes faced limited competition and usually forwardly placed. See some vulnernable shorter priced horses that she worth a flyer.

Pick for the Pace

#4 Prince Hal Hanover- Got his lungs blown out in last, ran down by a good one. Will be forwardly spotted and Toddy will work his magic.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: mikeyo on July 12, 2025, 12:30:52 PM
pick 5 (races 1-5)  9 with 3,7 with 4,7 with 3,5 with 8

pick 4 (races 4-7)  3,5 with 8 with 5 with 3,5,11

pick 6 (races 6-11)  5 with 3,5,11 with 1 with 6,7 with 9,11 with 4,9
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: mikeyo on July 12, 2025, 12:35:47 PM
pick 4 (races 8-11)  1 with 6,7 with 9,11 with 4,9
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: wizardofoz on July 12, 2025, 12:43:09 PM
The program pages do not matter. Bet AKE whenever he races tonight as he always has them "ready" with whatever he does stakes time!
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 12:50:40 PM
The program pages do not matter. Bet AKE whenever he races tonight as he always has them "ready" with whatever he does stakes time!

this has proved profitable in the past and we have all witnessed it tmbz1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 01:09:00 PM
Race 5 - #8 Yo Tillie is 3-1 ml, who is that odds maker Abbott or Costello?

14 race record of 10-1-1

Should be 1 / 30 billion ml odds lol. 
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 01:21:49 PM
Race 5 - #8 Yo Tillie is 3-1 ml, who is that odds maker Abbott or Costello?

14 race record of 10-1-1

Should be 1 / 30 billion ml odds lol.

agree this horse does look odds on
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 01:29:46 PM
agree this horse does look odds on

Last race, lifetime mark, fully restrained.  The #7 Lady Landia better come with a sub 150 mile, because that's what it's going to take if you TRY to beat Yo Tillie.

Hey, here's me unzipping my fly further, Yo Tillie beats the time of every trotter tonight running 1 mile, not just at the BigM, but on the earth, in the galaxy and in the universe.  ngc3
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 02:03:26 PM
Last race, lifetime mark, fully restrained.  The #7 Lady Landia better come with a sub 150 mile, because that's what it's going to take if you TRY to beat Yo Tillie.

Hey, here's me unzipping my fly further, Yo Tillie beats the time of every trotter tonight running 1 mile, not just at the BigM, but on the earth, in the galaxy and in the universe.  ngc3

race 1 in the daylight is the biggest threat to beating Yo Tillie's final time
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 02:13:26 PM
race 1 in the daylight is the biggest threat to beating Yo Tillie's final time

LEXUS KODY win, sure, beat Yo Tillie's time, no. 

Yo Tille may not be pushed and may not need to hit turbo mind you.  Her having the fastest time was if she was pushed to it is what I was inferring.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 02:24:23 PM
Race 2 - 10 is 12-1ml?

How the fuck is that possible?

Anyway back with Barlett. 

The #7 ml odds at 7/2 seem correct.  Needed a horse to break to get out, and it happened, got lucky and looked awesome winning.

So many races with 1 or 2 standout horses, tonight looks like multi leg wagers over individual race bets.  So far...
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on July 12, 2025, 02:57:38 PM
Strategy in the Pace will be pretty interesting to watch.  Figure Boyd and Gingras will fire while Miller protects.  Does Dunn or Tetrick try to overtake before the half?  Figure on 4 out and 5 in from the quarter pole on with someone of consequence getting a bad shuffle.  After the kick home last week Zeron will be rimmed the whole mile to try and give his a chance.  Fallout is a weird one - he can’t out sprint them but has failed first up and on the lead - same with Captain Optimistic. 

Honestly if there is a major speed duel up front I could see a bomb hitting like Knockout Round
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 05:00:07 PM
Race 5 - #8 Yo Tillie is 3-1 ml, who is that odds maker Abbott or Costello?

14 race record of 10-1-1

Should be 1 / 30 billion ml odds lol.

The strange thing is she's the only filly in the race not eligible for the Hambo Oaks??????

5th - 6 Deja Blu 7,8,4
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 05:04:39 PM
The strange thing is she's the only filly in the race not eligible for the Hambo Oaks??????

5th - 6 Deja Blu 7,8,4

I'll take you at your word, very good information.  Thanks.

Bet against her, you go and try lol! 
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 06:17:36 PM

1st - 8 Outside the Fire 9,4,2 I'm assuming speed should be the game at least early on........ which bodes well for the 9 Lexus Kody.
2nd - 3 Taranaki 7,4,10
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 07:08:39 PM
3rd - 5 Monserrate 4,7,1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 12, 2025, 07:21:28 PM
REALLY tacky for Settlemoir to barge his way into the winner's circle pic. I could possibly
see it were one of these big Stake races. Jeffie is probably saying " Excellent."   ;D
Nice work Smithers. tmbz1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on July 12, 2025, 07:25:23 PM
My suggestion is to bet SZ all night and you will come out with a positive ROI. Has quite a few live long shots. Might be a little prejudice as his father used to be my favorite driver and cashed many a ticket on him at the old Woodbine.

Zeron doing Zeron things - hits the board @ 70-1 in the 3rd
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 07:32:59 PM
4th - 5 Maryland 3,4,2
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Maxx Bucknell on July 12, 2025, 07:36:26 PM
REALLY tacky for Settlemoir to barge his way into the winner's circle pic. I could possibly
see it were one of these big Stake races. Jeffie is probably saying " Excellent."   ;D
Nice work Smithers. tmbz1

He wears the same suit all the time, must be the only one he has.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Unclejerry on July 12, 2025, 07:44:35 PM
I would like to join in after the Trot races are finished.

Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on July 12, 2025, 07:53:29 PM
Think Go Dog Go and Super Chapter are the two best trotting colts right now but man the Hambo is going to be really good.

Does Dunn stick with Maryland or move to Super Chapter
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Harness racer on July 12, 2025, 08:00:35 PM
Super chapter is the best right now!  He’s your hambo winner!  tmbz1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 12, 2025, 08:07:02 PM
This Gabe + the Otten girl are not exactly Bruce Beck + Gary Siebel  ;D
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Unclejerry on July 12, 2025, 08:15:27 PM
This Gabe + the Otten girl are not exactly Bruce Beck + Gary Siebel  ;D
On the track in Flip Flops is Hillbilly...
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 08:26:04 PM
6th - 5 What a Bid Hanover 8,10,1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Harness racer on July 12, 2025, 08:31:02 PM
Rave 6 :  8-10 ex box
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Unclejerry on July 12, 2025, 08:38:54 PM
Meadowlands ( Harness ), Jul 12   
Race #7
Trifecta Box
1st[1, 3, 5, 10, 11]
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 08:41:32 PM
race 7

5-11 exacta box
10-11 exacta box
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 12, 2025, 08:43:09 PM
3/5 on whatabid after that last race? Classic "they knew"
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 08:43:45 PM
7th - 11 Sabonis 5,1,3
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 08:46:42 PM
3/5 on whatabid after that last race? Classic "they knew"

Ake seemed like "he knew" in the post race interview

two horses slammed to 1/9 tonight after the race started


business as usual
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Unclejerry on July 12, 2025, 09:07:48 PM
Race 8 #1 will not be beaten
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on July 12, 2025, 09:08:13 PM
Extremely impressive drive by Stratton to blow up the board. Wasn't letting anyone fool with him in following stefanos
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Trigger on July 12, 2025, 09:09:56 PM
Extremely impressive drive by Stratton to blow up the board. Wasn't letting anyone fool with him in following stefanos

That extra week off too.

Very deserving.

All these horses have been racing their lunges out.
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: SAW on July 12, 2025, 09:19:12 PM
8th - 9 Sylvia Hanover 1,4,6
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Papillon on July 12, 2025, 09:36:25 PM
no excuses for Sylvia or Sabonis

maybe Ken Hanover can keep his streak going

race 10--pick5s.....

9 w all w 11 w 1 w all=$16.20

good luck to all
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 12, 2025, 09:37:03 PM
Twin B 25.3 last 1/4. Newly inducted HOF'er Chris Ryder at the helm.
He's the man with fillies/ mares tmbz1
Title: Re: M1 Pace night selections
Post by: littlebitbrown on July 12, 2025, 09:49:32 PM
Impressive was Twin B JF.   Nancy Takter stock weak tonight.
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