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Title: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2025, 06:48:24 PM
It seems a fair question.

I believe the answer is probably yes.

Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 08, 2025, 06:50:24 PM
It seems a fair question.

I believe the answer is probably yes.

If yes is true, then he can only fail himself.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 06:59:37 PM
Remember how David vs Goliath ended boys...  tmbz1
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness racer on July 08, 2025, 07:10:33 PM
I still believe he will transfer many and they will allow it.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Mazola on July 08, 2025, 07:19:09 PM
I still believe he will transfer many and they will allow it.

Yep, its rotten from the top
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:23:17 PM
Not long ago he didn't have a care in the world. A couple invoices rattled him to the point he thought having his Presiding Judge friend call me was a good idea. If he wasn't concerned, why the horrible impulse decision? Did he not realize I don't race? Or give a fuck? Or was recording the conversation??? Now that all this is on the record including the commission advising him he will be denied should he not pull his application back as well as the testimony of Mr. Williams there's plenty of cause for a......do I dare say????  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:25:16 PM
Just A Note:

None of these guys know anything.
Faraldo/Banca....Joe didn't know.
Ford/Gillis....Mark didn't know.
Taylor/Eckley/Fishman....Howard didn't know.

Nobody noticed Deena Pittman who was the top dog in Indiana when Linkmeyer was investigating Howard and got tossed resigned today??? Coinkidink???

Quote Of The Day: "The FBI gave me a clean bill of health" HT

 ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 08, 2025, 07:35:37 PM
Howard Taylor is a big owner and has been a huge asset to Harness Racing......
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 08, 2025, 07:38:33 PM
Just A Note:

None of these guys know anything.
Faraldo/Banca....Joe didn't know.
Ford/Gillis....Mark didn't know.
Taylor/Eckley/Fishman....Howard didn't know.

Nobody noticed Deena Pittman who was the top dog in Indiana when Linkmeyer was investigating Howard and got tossed resigned today??? Coinkidink???

 ngc3

If this is true, then instead of an attorney who has you plead the 5th when the crime is indefensible, and that leaves doubt in the air.

Then they should hire, my bro, Shaggy.  He has the perfect defense...

"It wasn't me"   tmbz1
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:39:33 PM
And the Titanic was unsinkable...

https://youtu.be/iaKWg69MazQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tRz9PjNZI
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 08, 2025, 07:50:57 PM
And the Titanic was unsinkable...

https://youtu.be/iaKWg69MazQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tRz9PjNZI

He said his wife was paying invoices, if he is found guilty of whatever is in those invoices can that make her a party to it?

Just gross eating something, pulling it out of your mouth, putting it back in and repeat.  Gross!  ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: The Answer on July 08, 2025, 07:52:23 PM
I would say he has already failed. He used to be one of the biggest players in the game. Most high priced yearlings he would be part of. Was partners with the biggest owners. They now treat him like pariah. Reduced to small town owner.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: The Answer on July 08, 2025, 07:54:12 PM
He said his wife was paying invoices, if he is found guilty of whatever is in those invoices can that make her a party to it?

Just gross eating something, pulling it out of your mouth, putting it back in and repeat.  Gross!  ngc3

https://www.givnish.com/m/obituaries/marlene-taylor-8/Memories
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 07:54:36 PM
He said his wife was paying invoices, if he is found guilty of whatever is in those invoices can that make her a party to it?

Just gross eating something, pulling it out of your mouth, putting it back in and repeat.  Gross!  ngc3

What's gross is the woman is no longer....he's sick.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Mazola on July 08, 2025, 08:00:09 PM
Clay Horner called him out on Facebook a year or two ago and he was right
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 08, 2025, 08:04:38 PM
What's gross is the woman is no longer....he's sick.

Like in no longer, dead.  He doesn't even say, my deceased wife, before my wife passed, she paid the bills.  Even if everyone knows there is a social order on speaking of the deceased especially those close to you.

Yeh, being wealthy and powerful doesn't make someone a narcissist, but he sweats it.

He may need to have proof then, or otherwise how can that defense be allowed, she cannot be cross examined?

Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 08, 2025, 08:13:36 PM
Like in no longer, dead.  He doesn't even say, my deceased wife, before my wife passed, she paid the bills.  Even if everyone knows there is a social order on speaking of the deceased especially those close to you.

Yeh, being wealthy and powerful doesn't make someone a narcissist, but he sweats it.

He may need to have proof then, or otherwise how can that defense be allowed, she cannot be cross examined?

Correct. I was kinda stunned at just how cold he was with those answers. They saw through all his bullshit. It doesn't end with Kentucky either. This will get ugly fast.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2025, 09:08:32 PM
Just A Note:

None of these guys know anything.
Faraldo/Banca....Joe didn't know.
Ford/Gillis....Mark didn't know.
Taylor/Eckley/Fishman....Howard didn't know.

Nobody noticed Deena Pittman who was the top dog in Indiana when Linkmeyer was investigating Howard and got tossed resigned today??? Coinkidink???

Quote Of The Day: "The FBI gave me a clean bill of health" HT

 ngc3
"Like Sand Through The Shopping Cart, ..."
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Way to go on July 08, 2025, 09:17:02 PM
Howard Taylor is a big owner and has been a huge asset to Harness Racing......
Taylor is SCUM.....Never speaking of deceased wife....why should he....Taylor engaged to a 20 year old......He knew everything every trainer was doing......TAYLOR has to top dog...always getting his ego stroked
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: LUCPARK on July 08, 2025, 10:18:58 PM
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Howard Taylor is a big owner and has been a huge asset to Harness Racing......
  HT IS A LEGEND

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Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on July 09, 2025, 09:22:46 AM
The answer is absolutely not. People said the same thing about Brooks, and Brooks has many, many more horses than Howard Taylor. Industry trade journals, magazines, broadcasters writers, wrote and spoke about what would happen to the bloodstock marketplace if Brooks went down, what would happen to tracks, and so on and so on. Taylor might want to have people believe it. Some trainers might believe it, but I don't think that's valid. They might have a vested interest in believing that. Others too might believe it or want to believe it. It is simply the Emperor's New Clothes. Nothing more.

In my opinion the sport and the business would be far better off without Howard Taylor.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: AgentQ on July 09, 2025, 10:47:52 AM
Good for Kentucky! But I suspect NY, Ohio and Penn won't have the chops to follow and that's a shame. If they did you just know HT would re-jig his empire into a number company and then we could all sit back and watch petrelli nailed him again. If there's any hope for the sport to survive into the next twenty years ALL racing jurisdictions will need to man up like kentucky and say enough is enough.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Yonkers1A on July 09, 2025, 11:18:24 AM
It seems a fair question.

I believe the answer is probably yes.

Not for MP, he will take down HT
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness racer on July 09, 2025, 01:46:25 PM
Not for MP, he will take down HT

He is definitely making an impact and living rent free in HT’s head if the guy is mentioning his name a hearing.  ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 09, 2025, 02:08:30 PM
He is definitely making an impact and living rent free in HT’s head if the guy is mentioning his name a hearing.  ngc3

Never met the guy. First he has his "really really good friend' Tony Zubkoff call me. Not this? Maybe he wants to send me horses!  ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: The Exporter on July 09, 2025, 03:23:02 PM
The answer is absolutely not. People said the same thing about Brooks, and Brooks has many, many more horses than Howard Taylor. Industry trade journals, magazines, broadcasters writers, wrote and spoke about what would happen to the bloodstock marketplace if Brooks went down, what would happen to tracks, and so on and so on. Taylor might want to have people believe it. Some trainers might believe it, but I don't think that's valid. They might have a vested interest in believing that. Others too might believe it or want to believe it. It is simply the Emperor's New Clothes. Nothing more.

In my opinion the sport and the business would be far better off without Howard Taylor.
If Kentucky had no qualms pinching Bob Baffert, Howard Taylor and anyone else has no shot. Kentucky is very proud of what they have accomplished in recent years moving both breeds forward, they will protect their product at all costs. 
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Parked on July 09, 2025, 04:02:53 PM
Great that Kentucky has made the moves they have.  Good and knowledgeable people on the board.  Now we just sit back and see what other states Mike has to kick in the butt to do what is right.    Go Mike, Go ,!! 
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: simplify on July 09, 2025, 05:06:59 PM
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Well you have kissed his ass for years so this makes sense coming from a buffoon like you. Dolt.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness racer on July 09, 2025, 05:56:30 PM
If Kentucky had no qualms pinching Bob Baffert, Howard Taylor and anyone else has no shot. Kentucky is very proud of what they have accomplished in recent years moving both breeds forward, they will protect their product at all costs.

Can’t compare the sport of kings and what they call “buggy racing”.
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness racer on July 09, 2025, 05:56:54 PM
Well you have kissed his ass for years so this makes sense coming from a buffoon like you. Dolt.

Spot on!   tmbz1   ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 09, 2025, 06:01:37 PM
Can’t compare the sport of kings and what they call “buggy racing”.

If I did international, if there was better quality weekly racing, this buggy bullshit is like subsidizing the time with something else I have experience in.

It's true, I way prefer T-Breds.  Drugs aside on both...It's a more sophisticated type screwing!  ;D

Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 09, 2025, 06:13:57 PM
Oh no, he's watching us.  ngc3
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Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: LUCPARK on July 09, 2025, 06:14:49 PM
Well you have kissed his ass for years so this makes sense coming from a buffoon like you. Dolt.

wanna compare bank accounts  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Trigger on July 09, 2025, 06:17:43 PM
Oh no, he's watching us.  ngc3
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I saw that dude last night, was thinking that but wasn't sure.

He was reading his 3 friends support, which was drowned out by the lynch mob!  ngc3
Title: Re: IS HOWARD TAYLOR TOO BIG TO FAIL?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 09, 2025, 06:19:52 PM
I saw that dude last night, was thinking that but wasn't sure.

He was reading his 3 friends support, which was drowned out by the lynch mob!  ngc3

That is actually him. Next he'll send Tony Zubkoff in here to handle me.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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