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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on July 06, 2025, 10:25:44 AM
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WHAT IS IT AT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR HORSES
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IM HEARING THE MIDWEST TRACKS ARE NOT TESTING FOR IT
IS IT AN ALL NATURAL PRODUCT IM ASKING FOR A FRIEND
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IM HEARING THE MIDWEST TRACKS ARE NOT TESTING FOR IT
IS IT AN ALL NATURAL PRODUCT IM ASKING FOR A FRIEND
Ask Ake.
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Ask Ake.
I DONT SPEAK SWEEDE OR JIBBERISH BUT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR HORSES
CUS HOOSIERPARK DOESNT WANT TO TEST FOR IT NEITHER DOES ANY OHIO TRACKS IM JUST WONDERING IF ITS JUST A SIMPLE VITAIM ,,LIKE FLINSTONES VITAIMS tmbz1
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I DONT SPEAK SWEEDE OR JIBBERISH BUT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR HORSES
CUS HOOSIERPARK DOESNT WANT TO TEST FOR IT NEITHER DOES ANY OHIO TRACKS IM JUST WONDERING IF ITS JUST A SIMPLE VITAIM ,,LIKE FLINSTONES VITAIMS tmbz1
In the winner's circle (Warrawee Michelle) there was a fine looking young swede chick, statuesque, like a model, tall, thin, beautiful face, and as you went down she had an ass flat as a pancake.
That thing one day is going to sag too. :-[
My point is, maybe Ake should inject some of that EPO in her ass, does it have qualities that improve that issue. ngc3
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WHAT IS IT AT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR HORSES
IM HEARING THE MIDWEST TRACKS ARE NOT TESTING FOR IT
IS IT AN ALL NATURAL PRODUCT IM ASKING FOR A FRIEND
I know a little about this.
Synthetic EPO is the man-made version of the naturally occurring hormone erythropoietin.
The medical purpose for Synthetic EPO is to treat anemia a medical condition where the body does not naturally produce enough organic, natural EPO.
Natural EPO is a hormone produced by the kidneys. It stimulates the production of red blood cells.
Red Blood cells carry oxygen through the body.
More red blood cells = more oxygen to muscles = enhanced stamina
Synthetic EPO given to race horses serves no legitimate medical purpose. It is performance enhancing because it artificially increases stamina.
Side effects include, most notably, blood clots and other cardiovascular issues.
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Cant even race at Scioto without it or something similar - Ronnie Gillespie fronts them in 54 with an In Range 2 year old off 1 qualifier - GTFO with that. Thats a mile in 52 at The Meadowlands.
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I know a little about this.
Synthetic EPO is the man-made version of the naturally occurring hormone erythropoietin.
The medical purpose for Synthetic EPO is to treat anemia a medical condition where the body does not naturally produce enough organic, natural EPO.
Natural EPO is a hormone produced by the kidneys. It stimulates the production of red blood cells.
Red Blood cells carry oxygen through the body.
More red blood cells = more oxygen to muscles = enhanced stamina
Synthetic EPO given to race horses serves no legitimate medical purpose. It is performance enhancing because it artificially increases stamina.
Side effects include, most notably, blood clots and other cardiovascular issues.
You are 100% correct sir.
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WHY WONT TRACKS CK FOR THIS
IS REAL EXPENSES TO CK OUT
OR DO THEY WANNA PROTECT HANDLE AND THEIR CHEATING BUDDIES..
IM ASKING CUS I SEE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN RACE TIMES AT THESE MIDWEST TRACKS HORSES DROPPING 3 FCKIN SECONDS AFTER BEING CLAIMED AND CERTAIN HORSES DROPPING SECONDS LIKE ITS LEGAL
,,ITS EITHER DOPE OR THEY FOUND FLYING HORSESHOES I THINK ITS THE FIRST GUESS,,
EMBARESSING HOW THEY CAN CHEAT THE FCKIN PUBLIC,,HORSEMEN AND HORSES ..THEN GO ON TV AND SAY HOW GREAT RACING IS,,GTFO
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WHY WONT TRACKS CK FOR THIS
IS REAL EXPENSES TO CK OUT
OR DO THEY WANNA PROTECT HANDLE AND THEIR CHEATING BUDDIES..
IM ASKING CUS I SEE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN RACE TIMES AT THESE MIDWEST TRACKS HORSES DROPPING 3 FCKIN SECONDS AFTER BEING CLAIMED AND CERTAIN HORSES DROPPING SECONDS LIKE ITS LEGAL
,,ITS EITHER DOPE OR THEY FOUND FLYING HORSESHOES I THINK ITS THE FIRST GUESS,,
EMBARESSING HOW THEY CAN CHEAT THE FCKIN PUBLIC,,HORSEMEN AND HORSES ..THEN GO ON TV AND SAY HOW GREAT RACING IS,,GTFO
Every time a new whatever, drug, epo...
It has to be classified to make it illegal.
Then the vets, lab have to create a type of testing.
What window of time it can be even detected.
It's a complex, very expensive process and time consuming to get it right.
Then you have to be concerned with false negatives / false positives from other possible legal substances.
Eventually, a very good machine is created to test, and detect, but it involves a lot of parties and a lot of science.
Then back in stop underground lab, they're working on some new shit...
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Above, is a over simplification, but yeh in layman terms.
When there is testing, LUCPARK, was correct, points to one thing, not ignorance, nor knowing their priorities, but just evil and corruption from the other side of the needle, the regulatory, track owners.
Mike Petrelli tried to dumb it down for EVERYONE and wrapped the whole corruption under one umbrella - animal abuse - he showed how one thing i.e. lame horse, far away from drugs is a lead to another and leads there to the heavy duty drug and illegal behavior almost every time.
Get the guy a few $mil and in a year harness racing would be transformed into something sustainable, virtually invulnerable, otherwise, easier, he kills it and within another year or so, it's dead!
Mike Petrelli might just get if he wants it - his "shoot first clearance" and "license to kill" Harness Racing in NA.
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WHY WONT TRACKS CK FOR THIS
IS REAL EXPENSES TO CK OUT
OR DO THEY WANNA PROTECT HANDLE AND THEIR CHEATING BUDDIES..
IM ASKING CUS I SEE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN RACE TIMES AT THESE MIDWEST TRACKS HORSES DROPPING 3 FCKIN SECONDS AFTER BEING CLAIMED AND CERTAIN HORSES DROPPING SECONDS LIKE ITS LEGAL
,,ITS EITHER DOPE OR THEY FOUND FLYING HORSESHOES I THINK ITS THE FIRST GUESS,,
EMBARESSING HOW THEY CAN CHEAT THE FCKIN PUBLIC,,HORSEMEN AND HORSES ..THEN GO ON TV AND SAY HOW GREAT RACING IS,,GTFO
The half life is short, need out of competition testing.
Recombinant Human Erythropoietin (rHuEPO), such as epoetin alfa (e.g., Epogen, Procrit):
Intravenous (IV): The half-life is approximately 413 hours in adults with normal kidney function. A study on postoperative orthopedic patients noted a half-life of around 46 hours after IV administration.
Subcutaneous (SC): The half-life is longer, typically 2436 hours, due to slower absorption.
Darbepoetin alfa (a longer-acting EPO analog, e.g., Aranesp):
IV: About 2533 hours.
SC: Can extend to 4872 hours.
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WELL SCIOTO IS ATLEAST TRYING TO SLOW THESE FUCKING CHEATERS DOWN NOBODY ELSE IS FOR SURE. PUTTING DETENTION TIMES ON SOME IS HELPING BUT A BANDAID ON A BIG WOUND.AND IF 1 TRACK HAS U ON A DETENTION TIME THEN ALL TRACKS SHOULD HAVE U ON A DETENTION TIME CUZ ALL OF A SUDDEN HOOSIER IS GETTING ALOT OF OHIO SHIPPERS NOW tmbz1
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Scioto isn't slowing anything down with detention barn. It is a once week shot given during the week. EPO has been around just getting more accessible forms. Scioto has a great card Saturday and the handle was a joke. As we say all the time this is slot welfare. The sport will die soon as the slot money goes away.
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Its just emp-17 cheap easy to find. Everyone should use it who is racing horses. Why let burke steal all your money. Ara-290 for pain, vip for bleeding. These amino acids attach to cells and turn them on. Its either quit racing horses or start fighting back.
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Can't even race in an amateur race at Chester without it anymore. Sad...
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I know a little about this.
Synthetic EPO is the man-made version of the naturally occurring hormone erythropoietin.
The medical purpose for Synthetic EPO is to treat anemia a medical condition where the body does not naturally produce enough organic, natural EPO.
Natural EPO is a hormone produced by the kidneys. It stimulates the production of red blood cells.
Red Blood cells carry oxygen through the body.
More red blood cells = more oxygen to muscles = enhanced stamina
Synthetic EPO given to race horses serves no legitimate medical purpose. It is performance enhancing because it artificially increases stamina.
Side effects include, most notably, blood clots and other cardiovascular issues.
You might want to complain to Google. Their AI descripition is almost exactly what you posted! ngc3
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I DONT SPEAK SWEEDE OR JIBBERISH BUT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR HORSES
CUS HOOSIERPARK DOESNT WANT TO TEST FOR IT NEITHER DOES ANY OHIO TRACKS IM JUST WONDERING IF ITS JUST A SIMPLE VITAIM ,,LIKE FLINSTONES VITAIMS tmbz1
wtf is a vitaim? and how do you get by in life? wtf kind of English did you learn?
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wtf is a vitaim? and how do you get by in life? wtf kind of English did you learn?
Chicagebonics?
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As I understand it, EPO goes to work quickly, and has an extremely short half-life. The effects last quite a while.
It takes out-of-competition testing and a great deal of good luck to catch anybody. And it ain't cheap to test for it.
It pains me greatly to say it, but I have to believe that a HUGE number of "high performance trainers" have it down to a science and use EPO routinely. And that's sad.
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WHY WONT TRACKS CK FOR THIS
IS REAL EXPENSES TO CK OUT
OR DO THEY WANNA PROTECT HANDLE AND THEIR CHEATING BUDDIES..
IM ASKING CUS I SEE DRAMATIC CHANGES IN RACE TIMES AT THESE MIDWEST TRACKS HORSES DROPPING 3 FCKIN SECONDS AFTER BEING CLAIMED AND CERTAIN HORSES DROPPING SECONDS LIKE ITS LEGAL
,,ITS EITHER DOPE OR THEY FOUND FLYING HORSESHOES I THINK ITS THE FIRST GUESS,,
EMBARESSING HOW THEY CAN CHEAT THE FCKIN PUBLIC,,HORSEMEN AND HORSES ..THEN GO ON TV AND SAY HOW GREAT RACING IS,,GTFO
Are you talking about Rocks Shining Star??
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You know what else is expensive? Owners not showing up to buy yearlings because they have had enough. Or Owners not participating in the claiming game all winter which keeps the game alive. This industry has zero intelligent people and will go the way of the dodo bird in short order. Canada is basically a fair circuit with the exception of Mohawk and that place will be down to two or three days of racing in the next year. And while things are apparently well down here if you take a deeper dive, the numbers indicate something different. Amount of registered owners has decreased 20% over the past five years and if that isn't alarming in itself, handle adjusted for inflation has decreased 40% in the past decade alone. I suspect Kentucky will boom just like Ontario did when slots were introduced but if we follow a similar approach where there is zero improvement to the betting and live product it too will be short lived. Testing for EPO/Cobalt/Aranesp/TCO2 should be mandatory for a year---call it a trial ballon---and all trainer's numbers should be evaluated. From there you send a very strong message and get things at least to the point where an owner doesn't have to pay 6-7K a month to compete as that isn't sustainable.
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Just go to Middletown they pass it around like it's candy. Stratton, Adam, Bako, owners pull horses when they don't function and Bako buys them back and switches ownership. Trotter who raced recently comes to mind and let's not forget the horse who was with Bako, went to another trainer couldn't go and now is owned by Bako. Ford behind the whole thing, not hard to figure.