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Title: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on June 25, 2025, 07:47:46 PM
How are 2yr olds owned bred and raised by Wagner’s allowed to qualify and transfer ownership same day? Woogan has owned horses with Wagner for 30yrs. He is also on the USTA board as well as the Virginia board?
The shit never ends!!!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on June 25, 2025, 08:17:07 PM
Woogen and Wagner should both be investigated and indicted on money laundering
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Jcspindler on June 27, 2025, 02:05:07 PM
Wagner has been convicted and fined. Search the  United States trotting ass site for complete info. Not sure if Woogen involved...
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 27, 2025, 04:42:37 PM
Wagner has not been convicted of anything. He surrendered his membership. The other two parties got fined and/or license suspended pending an appeal. Some just got suspended for 15 days.
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 29, 2025, 06:27:50 PM
Just noticed how many of Wagners horses were "Sold" to people in OHIO.

Still doing shady shit I see
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 29, 2025, 06:54:10 PM
Many of Woogen owned race in NY
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on June 29, 2025, 08:28:52 PM
Just noticed how many of Wagners horses were "Sold" to people in OHIO.

Still doing shady shit I see

HAGERMAN....USTA will screw this up
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 29, 2025, 08:45:02 PM
Brooksforreal ,,,CT Stables Washington Ohio. Spends 100K on a horse that's coming from a known cheater. (And never heard of them!)  Can't count on the USTA for approving this since they failed us in the past.
I would bet it's the same connection's just hidden deeper!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 29, 2025, 09:02:35 PM
How long did Mike Hall get? Seems to have vanished. Looks like Dougie is back in action!  73cv.2
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on June 29, 2025, 09:44:19 PM
Several beards..... how stupid are all of the COMMISSIONS,JUDGES, INSPECTORS......L OW IQs
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 30, 2025, 08:28:58 PM
100K straw purchase Brooksforreal looked like he was ready to break down tonight at Ocean Downs.
Wins but pulled up lame and was trying to lay down in last turn home in 30:2

Somebody better call Wagner ASAP!
 

Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Trigger on June 30, 2025, 08:32:26 PM
Several beards..... how stupid are all of the COMMISSIONS,JUDGES, INSPECTORS......L OW IQs

Not sure about that, do all these COMMISSIONS,JUDGES, INSPECTORS use beards to bet the beards or do it under their own accounts? 
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 30, 2025, 09:16:24 PM
I just think they look the other way as not to be dragged into a lengthy investigation. Pretty sad to be afraid of doing your job! 0If we see all the bullshit going on you know damn well they see it upstairs as well. The ones that need to be held accountable is the so-called Horsemans association! Like Cloverleaf,,But problem there is most of the directors are participating horseman.
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Harness racer on June 30, 2025, 09:52:56 PM
I just think they look the other way as not to be dragged into a lengthy investigation. Pretty sad to be afraid of doing your job! 0If we see all the bullshit going on you know damn well they see it upstairs as well. The ones that need to be held accountable is the so-called Horsemans association! Like Cloverleaf,,But problem there is most of the directors are participating horseman.

That’s the issue, huge conflicts of interest in that respect.  The ones high up are involved at every level. 
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on July 01, 2025, 08:22:54 AM
 Wagner had his yearling sale purchases qualify in Ohio yesterday with his baby’s momma  Alicia Hanners down as trainer.  USTA makes a fortune on all his transfers!!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Harness racer on July 01, 2025, 08:36:54 AM
He has a kid with her?  Pam didn’t care?
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on July 01, 2025, 10:26:24 AM
Omg.....everyone knows what a whore WAGNER is.......his main women for years was ARLENE CAMERON.....ERIC ELL'S  ex (JL CRUZE fame)......but WAGNER had an affair with ALICIA HANNERS  and VOILA .......HANNERS has a baby in her late 40s
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Yonkers1A on July 01, 2025, 10:49:58 AM
Omg.....everyone knows what a whore WAGNER is.......his main women for years was ARLENE CAMERON.....ERIC ELL'S  ex (JL CRUZE fame)......but WAGNER had an affair with ALICIA HANNERS  and VOILA .......HANNERS has a baby in her late 40s

All Carnies
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Checked Up on July 01, 2025, 12:04:49 PM
What are the chances that they actually pay the 6 figure fines? I  say there are two, SLIM& NONE!!!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Checked Up on July 01, 2025, 12:08:16 PM
All Carnies
Bingo! We have a winner, now pick a prize from the bottom row 😀 👍
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on July 01, 2025, 02:17:21 PM
Cameron was the smart one. Kicked him out
Of her house. Sold out moved to Fl on the water n ton of cash!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on July 01, 2025, 02:23:22 PM
Not so simple......Wagne r accessed their joint account to pay off HANNERS then came up with 13 positives in VIRGINIA SIRES STAKES and WAGNER accused CAMERON of drugging all of his horses......due to mitigating circumstances.... VIRGINIA took purse $$$$ back but only gave WAGNER a small fine/penalty........the guy has more lives than a cat
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on July 01, 2025, 02:31:18 PM
Wrong sold bunch of horses to bleacher in Ohio for cash to pay here off so Pam wouldn’t know about the little one
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on July 01, 2025, 03:19:39 PM
Oh really....maybe he did both.......I live 10 minutes from him......slippery little devil......
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on July 01, 2025, 03:40:43 PM
She’s a good friend would even let him borrow a cent!
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Harness racer on July 01, 2025, 04:21:33 PM
Wagner has always thought he was a lady’s man.  Never knew about Hanners.  I wonder how much he paid her?
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: All trot on July 01, 2025, 04:32:44 PM
5 kids 5 different daddys
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on July 01, 2025, 05:10:10 PM
So prolific........
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Harness racer on July 01, 2025, 06:01:55 PM
5 kids 5 different daddys

Hanners?  That’s crazy if that’s true.
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 01, 2025, 09:10:11 PM
5 kids 5 different daddys

Father s day must be a bitch!

 73cv.2
Title: Re: Wagner-Woogen
Post by: Way to go on July 02, 2025, 06:06:27 AM
Best post ever on PLOP
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