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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: RR70s on June 10, 2025, 12:22:34 PM
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With Aqueduct closing and Belmont getting full year racing (Saratoga meet staying the same from July to Labor Day) it was rumored Harness racing could move to Belmont park. If Yonkers closes, what would the likelihood of this happening?
They’re already building an all-weather surface track at Belmont so with a main track, Tapeta track, and Turf course, where could a harness track go?
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With Aqueduct closing and Belmont getting full year racing (Saratoga meet staying the same from July to Labor Day) it was rumored Harness racing could move to Belmont park. If Yonkers closes, what would the likelihood of this happening?
They’re already building an all-weather surface track at Belmont so with a main track, Tapeta track, and Turf course, where could a harness track go?
It's a place called Fantasyland.
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It's a place called Fantasyland.
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See how quick with the welfare mentality? Now it's the NYRA who's gonna say....awww they need a home, yeah well let that trash in here at the brand new modern sparklking BELMONT PARK!!! Fucking lunacy. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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With Aqueduct closing and Belmont getting full year racing (Saratoga meet staying the same from July to Labor Day) it was rumored Harness racing could move to Belmont park. If Yonkers closes, what would the likelihood of this happening?
They’re already building an all-weather surface track at Belmont so with a main track, Tapeta track, and Turf course, where could a harness track go?
one of the most delusional posts ever tmbz1
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Did Faralodough secure a contract
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Did Faralodough secure a contract
Month to month he'll hammer it out! BTW, he's the person who started that whole bullshit idea of Belmont bringing the trash into their kingdom. Those people are not stupid. May as well let the fucking homeless sleep on the benches of the apron.
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one of the most delusional posts ever tmbz1
I didn’t just pull it out of the air, it’s been talked about for the last several years.
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wow
as Petrelli said--NYRA doesn't want that garbage on their property
mainly--this would involve switching the surface back and forth and that's not cheap--
the tapeta is not a sure thing
I highly doubt the tbred big boys would allow that type of operating, jeopardizing multi million dollar horses just because that would allow a dead industry conduct racing there
YR handles about $400k--why not have Monticello racing there instead-they handle more
what dates would the tbred guys sacrifice to allow drug infested Yonkers guys race and steal welfare money?
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Bob Galterio said they were close to a deal with NYRA for racing at Belmont.. they wanted Yonkers to pay for new lighting and then NYRA decided they wanted a bigger piece every month... the Rooney's said no and they put it up for sale
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I didn’t just pull it out of the air, it’s been talked about for the last several years.
It has been talked about by everyone but NYRA. Not in the $500 million dollar plan. As the man said, it was a Farlado pie in the sky pitch. Never received a reply.
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Bob Galterio said they were close to a deal with NYRA for racing at Belmont.. they wanted Yonkers to pay for new lighting and then NYRA decided they wanted a bigger piece every month... the Rooney's said no and they put it up for sale
---about a decade ago there were some rumors about harness racing on the current one mile training track--but those rumors disappeared
what you said makes sense the way NY operates
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With Aqueduct closing and Belmont getting full year racing (Saratoga meet staying the same from July to Labor Day) it was rumored Harness racing could move to Belmont park. If Yonkers closes, what would the likelihood of this happening?
They’re already building an all-weather surface track at Belmont so with a main track, Tapeta track, and Turf course, where could a harness track go?
Delusional
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---about a decade ago there were some rumors about harness racing on the current one mile training track--but those rumors disappeared
what you said makes sense the way NY operates
not rumors, right from Bob's mouth - Yonkers wanted it and tried
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Never gonna happen Like the man said Fantasy Land.
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What possible piece of the 400k nightly handle a few days a week would make it worth dirtying up their big new rebuilt plant?
Will never happen.
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Shouldn't the question have been WHEN Yonkers closes....! ;D
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As someone who grew up in Brooklyn and went to Yonkers many times, "Old Hilltop" had some amazing crowds during it's "heyday". Some legends of the game too! But that was about 40 years ago, and the sport has changed. The "New" Belmont would have to be "stark raving crazy" to ever allow harness racing into their new facility.
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As someone who grew up in Brooklyn and went to Yonkers many times, "Old Hilltop" had some amazing crowds during it's "heyday". Some legends of the game too! But that was about 40 years ago, and the sport has changed. The "New" Belmont would have to be "stark raving crazy" to ever allow harness racing into their new facility.
I saw Bret Hanover as a teenager there in 1965. It was beautiful.
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A lot of horsemen might starve and/or move their trade elsewhere for less money, traveling farther to race, and being the outsiders invading, instead of having home court advantage!!
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MIKE CAMPBELL.....like me, you remember the great moments at "Old Hilltop". It also proves. like me, you're old! LOL!
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A lot of horsemen might starve and/or move their trade elsewhere for less money, traveling farther to race, and being the outsiders invading, instead of having home court advantage!!
Check out Yonkers top 20 trainers right now. How many would you consider actual "horsemen"?
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rainman 2.....I think that pretty much sums it up. If you remember when Pompano closed, some actually got out of the biz.
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MIKE CAMPBELL.....like me, you remember the great moments at "Old Hilltop". It also proves. like me, you're old! LOL!
Yes I am but I guess it is better than the alternative.
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MIKE CAMPBELL.....I agree 100%!!!!!
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wow
as Petrelli said--NYRA doesn't want that garbage on their property
mainly--this would involve switching the surface back and forth and that's not cheap--
the tapeta is not a sure thing
I highly doubt the tbred big boys would allow that type of operating, jeopardizing multi million dollar horses just because that would allow a dead industry conduct racing there
YR handles about $400k--why not have Monticello racing there instead-they handle more
what dates would the tbred guys sacrifice to allow drug infested Yonkers guys race and steal welfare money?
Maybe there's room?
New Belmont Track/Course sizes:
Main Dirt: 1.5 miles
Turf: 1 5/16
Inner Turf: 1 3/16
Synthetic: 1 mile
Dirt Training: 7/8
Let's put a 5/8 inside
It will be awesome.
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Maybe there's room?
New Belmont Track/Course sizes:
Main Dirt: 1.5 miles
Turf: 1 5/16
Inner Turf: 1 3/16
Synthetic: 1 mile
Dirt Training: 7/8
Let's put a 5/8 inside
It will be awesome.
the rumors over a decade ago had the training track as the only possibility for harness racing
I am sincerely hoping they don't install a Tapeta surface--i would need a new circuit to follow if that happened
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rainman 2.....I think that pretty much sums it up. If you remember when Pompano closed, some actually got out of the biz.
Agreed! Many got out of the business. However, quite a few of these trainers at Yonkers now have a lot of power underneath them, while the guys from pompano didn't have that power. Is this a big difference? As far as the little guys that race Yonkers, there are quite a few other venues around for less purse money or get out the business altogether.