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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Albatross77 on June 08, 2025, 12:14:30 PM
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I don’t pay much attention to quarrels in the upper echelons of racing and just assume it’s a bunch of wealthy pitbulls ripping each others face off. Looking from the outside in…it might appear that the SRIF possibly specifically targeted the main competitors of Hanover. The demise of the these entities would certainly increase market share for Hanover and make racing easier for their clients.
Why would the Harness Industry give absolute power to the president of a major farm and not bring in a non-partisan special counsel like a respected person involved in Quarter Horse racing which is more corrupt than harness because of drug cartels? The key being that whoever is chosen has no connection to harness racing.
There are a lot of people on the “the list” that haven’t been investigated and it’s hard to ignore the fact that the main targets of SRIF investigation are Hanover’s biggest competitors. There are a ton of people in the Industry accused of the same alleged fraud as the ones being prosecuted..but they are not punished. It seems rather nefarious to me.
It's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST
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What does this have to do with Mark Ford?
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What does this have to do with Mark Ford?
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Another screen name Mike!
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I don’t pay much attention to quarrels in the upper echelons of racing and just assume it’s a bunch of wealthy pitbulls ripping each others face off. Looking from the outside in…it might appear that the SRIF possibly specifically targeted the main competitors of Hanover. The demise of the these entities would certainly increase market share for Hanover and make racing easier for their clients.
Why would the Harness Industry give absolute power to the president of a major farm and not bring in a non-partisan special counsel like a respected person involved in Quarter Horse racing which is more corrupt than harness because of drug cartels? The key being that whoever is chosen has no connection to harness racing.
There are a lot of people on the “the list” that haven’t been investigated and it’s hard to ignore the fact that the main targets of SRIF investigation are Hanover’s biggest competitors. There are a ton of people in the Industry accused of the same alleged fraud as the ones being prosecuted..but they are not punished. It seems rather nefarious to me.
It's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST
I agree. Russell Williams needs to be replaced.
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I don’t pay much attention to quarrels in the upper echelons of racing and just assume it’s a bunch of wealthy pitbulls ripping each others face off. Looking from the outside in…it might appear that the SRIF possibly specifically targeted the main competitors of Hanover. The demise of the these entities would certainly increase market share for Hanover and make racing easier for their clients.
Why would the Harness Industry give absolute power to the president of a major farm and not bring in a non-partisan special counsel like a respected person involved in Quarter Horse racing which is more corrupt than harness because of drug cartels? The key being that whoever is chosen has no connection to harness racing.
There are a lot of people on the “the list” that haven’t been investigated and it’s hard to ignore the fact that the main targets of SRIF investigation are Hanover’s biggest competitors. There are a ton of people in the Industry accused of the same alleged fraud as the ones being prosecuted..but they are not punished. It seems rather nefarious to me.
It's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST
Not sure anyone disagrees with you...but why do you keep posting about the same issue?
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Because I'm Mike P and that's what I do ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I don’t pay much attention to quarrels in the upper echelons of racing and just assume it’s a bunch of wealthy pitbulls ripping each others face off. Looking from the outside in…it might appear that the SRIF possibly specifically targeted the main competitors of Hanover. The demise of the these entities would certainly increase market share for Hanover and make racing easier for their clients.
Why would the Harness Industry give absolute power to the president of a major farm and not bring in a non-partisan special counsel like a respected person involved in Quarter Horse racing which is more corrupt than harness because of drug cartels? The key being that whoever is chosen has no connection to harness racing.
There are a lot of people on the “the list” that haven’t been investigated and it’s hard to ignore the fact that the main targets of SRIF investigation are Hanover’s biggest competitors. There are a ton of people in the Industry accused of the same alleged fraud as the ones being prosecuted..but they are not punished. It seems rather nefarious to me.
It's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST
Because those other people know nothing about our sport. Who comprises the boards of NHL,NBA,NFL, etc. the owners of the teams
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Because those other people know nothing about our sport. Who comprises the boards of NHL,NBA,NFL, etc. the owners of the teams
What does each of those leagues have. Players unions and representation led by present and former players as well as paid arbitrators and attorneys who negotiate actual contracts.
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What does each of those leagues have. Players unions and representation led by present and former players as well as paid arbitrators and attorneys who negotiate actual contracts.
Yep and we have several horseman’s associations that help if needed. Point Is you need someone that knows about the sport to head it not an outsider. Like him or not Russ is not the final answer he has a board that was voted for by horseman to answer too
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If you don’t like the current board then gather support and vote them out. But that would mean you need to be a member and pay the fee
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If you don’t like the current board then gather support and vote them out. But that would mean you need to be a member and pay the fee
I don't see anyone who is a member standing up to any of them. Horsemen have NO representation. The board is populated with the people that need to be gone. In the REAL world, horsemen have a barrier between them and the governing body. Any of those other sports leagues a NOT FOR PROFIT 501c6? You're fucking clueless to make those comparisons. Professional sports league players have the power to shut down the whole sport in times of negotiation if they are dissatisfied. Get it??? ngc3
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I don't see anyone who is a member standing up to any of them. Horsemen have NO representation. The board is populated with the people that need to be gone. In the REAL world, horsemen have a barrier between them and the governing body. Any of those other sports leagues a NOT FOR PROFIT 501c6? You're fucking clueless to make those comparisons. Professional sports league players have the power to shut down the whole sport in times of negotiation if they are dissatisfied. Get it??? ngc3
Who hurt you?
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You sure have a limited vocabulary.
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Yep and we have several horseman’s associations that help if needed. Point Is you need someone that knows about the sport to head it not an outsider. Like him or not Russ is not the final answer he has a board that was voted for by horseman to answer too
Disagree. Most people on the associations look out for themselves and a select few. And most are on the take and couldn’t care less about the best interests of regular Horsemen.
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tmbz1
I don't see anyone who is a member standing up to any of them. Horsemen have NO representation. The board is populated with the people that need to be gone. In the REAL world, horsemen have a barrier between them and the governing body. Any of those other sports leagues a NOT FOR PROFIT 501c6? You're fucking clueless to make those comparisons. Professional sports league players have the power to shut down the whole sport in times of negotiation if they are dissatisfied. Get it??? ngc3
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Disagree. Most people on the associations look out for themselves and a select few. And most are on the take and couldn’t care less about the best interests of regular Horsemen.
And sadly the horsemen keep voting for them
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I don't see anyone who is a member standing up to any of them. Horsemen have NO representation. The board is populated with the people that need to be gone. In the REAL world, horsemen have a barrier between them and the governing body. Any of those other sports leagues a NOT FOR PROFIT 501c6? You're fucking clueless to make those comparisons. Professional sports league players have the power to shut down the whole sport in times of negotiation if they are dissatisfied. Get it??? ngc3
The horsemen could easily shut down the entire industry if they wanted to. But too many only care for themselves
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More horsemen would stand up and speak if they had a true leader representing their voice.
Someone in the business that has something to lose!
Who could we nominate?
Gaagoots I nominate you!
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I’ve said many times if they boycott the entry box or all scratch their horses out of races with people on the list, the show would stop until something is corrected. People would have to start answering questions when you’re getting four or five or six scratches a race.
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None of the trainers are going to risk losing money by boycotting the entry box.
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None of the trainers are going to risk losing money by boycotting the entry box.
100% agree! That’s why nothing will ever change! tmbz1
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I’ve said many times if they boycott the entry box or all scratch their horses out of races with people on the list, the show would stop until something is corrected. People would have to start answering questions when you’re getting four or five or six scratches a race.
There will never be unity. And that's why the people with power laugh.
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The horsemen could easily shut down the entire industry if they wanted to. But too many only care for themselves
Why would anyone want to shut down the industry? TOO FUNNY! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3