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Title: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Elvis Yellowfeet on May 31, 2025, 10:08:59 PM
He is pig.  Big pig.  Useless as Anne Frank’s drum set. 
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on May 31, 2025, 10:37:25 PM
Awful . Winner wasn’t losing anyways
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on June 01, 2025, 12:02:06 AM
Weird dead cat bounce after looking wicked in the qualifier.  Pelling is too good and this horse has been tough as nails.  Wouldn’t be surprised if we scopes sick or something. 
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Chips N Salsa on June 01, 2025, 02:34:52 PM
horse has cracked knee and crippled
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Laag on June 01, 2025, 06:07:19 PM
Maximus Miki went the best mile by anyone this year. He left Sabonis and Voukefalas two classy horses in the dust on a night where the track was giving fast miles. Decent first start by Sabonis given the circumstances. He will definitely be heard from in the Graduate coming up at Big M
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on June 01, 2025, 11:07:39 PM
Zeron always goes easy on one first start or 2 . Probably by design
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Elvis Yellowfeet on June 13, 2025, 09:33:44 PM
Sabonis is still pig.  🐷
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 13, 2025, 10:28:20 PM
Damn a pig pacing home in 53.3!

 73cv.2

The whole field was at the winner's mercy after the 1/2!

He stole that race at the half!
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Dr. O on June 14, 2025, 01:50:28 PM
Effort and drive by Dexter were both crap. Roy and The Hot Toddy better positioned for success.  Not sure what David Miller was doing with epogen crashed horse on front end. Lucky he didn’t cause a wreck.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: LUCPARK on June 14, 2025, 03:04:56 PM
 horse  haS  never sound his whole life,,

biggest heart,,buti think the soundness is catching up to him

SIDE FCKIN NOTE

UNLESS ITS A NANCY OR CHRIS RYDER HORSE IS IT ME OR DOES DUNN DRIVE LIKE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE....

IM ASKING FOR A FRIEND ,

WHAT FCKIN IDEA WAS HE HAVING DOWN THE LANE KLAST NIGHT SHITT FCKIN DRIVE ,,,AT THIS RATE FLY JOEY PUTNAM IN FROM INDY  ,,,AT LEAST HE DROVE THE HORSE LIKE HE WAS TRYIN TO WIN A RACE

Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Maxx Bucknell on June 14, 2025, 03:10:06 PM
Also Marcus Melander
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on June 15, 2025, 07:19:14 PM
A few bad starts to lower the value, then somebody with distant ties to the trainer will approach the owners with a  cash offer, the horse will stay where he is and makes a miraculous turnaround. Then the story will be that the new connections conducted a test the previous owners weren't interested in spending money on that returned the horse to his previous form! 73cv.2 ngc3
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: hoosierboy on June 15, 2025, 07:56:13 PM
horse  haS  never sound his whole life,,

biggest heart,,buti think the soundness is catching up to him

SIDE FCKIN NOTE

UNLESS ITS A NANCY OR CHRIS RYDER HORSE IS IT ME OR DOES DUNN DRIVE LIKE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE....

IM ASKING FOR A FRIEND ,

WHAT FCKIN IDEA WAS HE HAVING DOWN THE LANE KLAST NIGHT SHITT FCKIN DRIVE ,,,AT THIS RATE FLY JOEY PUTNAM IN FROM INDY  ,,,AT LEAST HE DROVE THE HORSE LIKE HE WAS TRYIN TO WIN A RACE

The horse isn’t sound.  I would hold off flying Joey Putnam in until breeders crown.

Dex is like other drivers they only as good as what’s between the shafts.

I’m sure Pelling is plenty capable of making him go forward if there is anything is left in the tank
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Brown jug on June 16, 2025, 12:42:42 PM
did diamond creek not just buy him recently ??
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Ramone on June 16, 2025, 01:00:47 PM
for what it's worth:

CURRENT OWNER
Diamond Creek Racing (445M78)   Wellsville,PA    Effective: 05/29/2025
Pelling Racing Llc (751N78)   Creamridge,NJ    Effective: 05/29/2025
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Harness racer on June 16, 2025, 01:07:47 PM
Any idea what they paid?  Had to be a decent amount, especially for a horse that seems non-competitive on the Grand Circuit.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on June 16, 2025, 01:34:10 PM
for what it's worth:

CURRENT OWNER
Diamond Creek Racing (445M78)   Wellsville,PA    Effective: 05/29/2025
Pelling Racing Llc (751N78)   Creamridge,NJ    Effective: 05/29/2025
Looks to me like the like I was a week or two off the aforementioned scenario! Get ready because the big form reversal is imanent now. The new ownership group didn't spend good money just to take a "flyer" with him.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Brown jug on June 16, 2025, 02:31:02 PM
currently owned by Pelling and diamond creek
don't know why diamond creek would bother with a horse like this given all they have going on , same with Pelling but we shall see
 horse was a $7k yearling and has no pedigree
 beat up on all of them at hoosier but that's all
now has to race against real horses
 will watch with interest
 if there is one person to turn him around its Pelling
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on June 16, 2025, 03:50:37 PM
If anyone has the ability to return him to his glory days,it's definitely Pelling!tmbz1
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2025, 05:50:55 PM
for what it's worth:

CURRENT OWNER
Diamond Creek Racing (445M78)   Wellsville,PA    Effective: 05/29/2025
Pelling Racing Llc (751N78)   Creamridge,NJ    Effective: 05/29/2025

Pd 450 geees.  Few weeks ago
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Harness racer on June 16, 2025, 10:01:18 PM
Damn!  💵💵💵
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 16, 2025, 10:08:48 PM
A few bad starts to lower the value, then somebody with distant ties to the trainer will approach the owners with a  cash offer, the horse will stay where he is and makes a miraculous turnaround. Then the story will be that the new connections conducted a test the previous owners weren't interested in spending money on that returned the horse to his previous form! 73cv.2 ngc3

   You have quite an imagination
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on June 17, 2025, 01:48:14 PM
   You have quite an imagination
I've seen and heard plenty from the years I've spent "inside the fences"!
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Brown jug on June 17, 2025, 03:46:47 PM
$450 k ???
 bet the sellers offered to drop him off at pellings barn ASAP!!
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Maxx Bucknell on June 17, 2025, 03:59:36 PM
He's in a division of The Graduate this Saturday night at Meadowlands.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: The Answer on June 17, 2025, 05:09:25 PM
Pd 450 geees.  Few weeks ago

I would say Pelling got his part for free. He’s always been lame and still is lame. Big heart only lasts so long.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: hoosierboy on June 17, 2025, 07:08:27 PM
$450 k ???
 bet the sellers offered to drop him off at pellings barn ASAP!!

Probably threw the harness in also
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on June 17, 2025, 07:19:31 PM
The horse had a hairline fracture in his right knee as a 2yo.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Elvis Yellowfeet on June 21, 2025, 11:58:48 PM
Raced much better tonight.  Maybe he is not so much pig.  He is now maybe a donkey or goat.  And not Michael Jordan kind of GOAT… like billy goat



Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: wiseowl on June 22, 2025, 10:00:37 AM
Pelling isn't stupid one of the best think he knows what he is doing.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Yonkers1A on June 22, 2025, 10:03:21 AM
Gas can only take you so far
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on June 22, 2025, 11:54:30 AM
Very, very good last night. Perhaps deceivingly. Against a very legit winner and a very legit 2nd place horse. Noses separated the top 3.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on June 22, 2025, 01:53:27 PM
Looking like my overactive mind was right on track. ngc3
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: AgentQ on June 22, 2025, 06:16:06 PM
never ever underestimate Brett
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Popcorners on June 22, 2025, 10:00:52 PM
raced pretty well last night going first over
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: SAW on July 05, 2025, 04:33:45 PM
I think he has a BIG chance tonight in the 5th race @ The Big M!!
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Sovereigntyplop on July 05, 2025, 05:31:11 PM
I think he has a BIG chance tonight in the 5th race @ The Big M!!

The guy who started this thread is nuts if that's what he thinks reality is - was a huge mile by Sabonis closing into a mediocre 55 half.

I see the 1 back with Boyd, #4 and 10 leave.  I have a feeling the Nijinksy who can close to will do that today hoping they go 54 to the half.  Sabonis first over could push Albano to 121 or lower then Nijinsky sails by.  If Sabonis doesn't pull he might get jammed in.  Tough race for Sabonis and Captain Albano.

Nijinski and some bombs maybe Chain Gang #9 and #1 and #7 Captain Luke, horses that have ran into or benefit from a 120 / 121 3/4s.

Nice race though!   tmbz1



Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Bernie Madoff on July 05, 2025, 08:42:33 PM
I think he has a BIG chance tonight in the 5th race @ The Big M!!




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Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: John Moody on July 05, 2025, 08:42:44 PM
Sabonis was good tonight
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 05, 2025, 08:43:18 PM
Elvis you may now leave the building. 11.wp
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Sovereigntyplop on July 05, 2025, 08:43:29 PM
I think he has a BIG chance tonight in the 5th race @ The Big M!!

 62za.clp  Awesome SAW, I was so wrong about this race, and this thread should be put to bed! 147 3/5!  tmbz1
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Stan durbread on July 05, 2025, 08:45:42 PM
Wish I could buy that pig for $2.39 a pound
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Bernie Madoff on July 05, 2025, 08:46:06 PM
Elvis you may now leave the building. 11.wp




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Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: JT on July 05, 2025, 09:13:19 PM
Great race, impressive mile, tough trip for Nijinksy.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Sovereigntyplop on July 05, 2025, 09:15:49 PM
Great race, impressive mile, tough trip for Nijinksy.

Casey Coleman is scratching his nuts wondering.  ngc3

Tough for Captain Albano, drew 10 last 2 out, damn fine horse! 
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Elvis Yellowfeet on July 06, 2025, 07:32:43 AM
Sabonis is not pig.  Definitely not pig. 


I will admit when I am wrong.   I was wrong.  He raced like a pig when Zeron drove him.  Is Dex really that much better?
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: The Answer on July 06, 2025, 09:03:20 AM
Sabonis is not pig.  Definitely not pig. 


I will admit when I am wrong.   I was wrong.  He raced like a pig when Zeron drove him.  Is Dex really that much better?

When Zeron drove him Pelling didn’t own him yet. Got plugged in after ownership changed and big money was on the line.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: LUCPARK on July 06, 2025, 10:29:38 AM
HORSE HAS A BIG KNEE BUT  HES ALL HEART   VERY VERY NICE HORSE,,

WAS A BEAST LAST YR AT HOOSIER ,,WE NEVER BEAT HIM,,
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Harness racer on July 06, 2025, 09:08:38 PM
When Zeron drove him Pelling didn’t own him yet. Got plugged in after ownership changed and big money was on the line.

Sure seems like they weren’t getting his full potential until the owners sold him to Diamond Creek and Pelling.  Funny how that works. ngc3
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Mazola on July 06, 2025, 09:33:09 PM
Sure seems like they weren’t getting his full potential until the owners sold him to Diamond Creek and Pelling.  Funny how that works. ngc3
tmbz1
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on July 07, 2025, 12:44:06 PM
Not a Zeron/Dexter thing. Don't be naive. Very impressive second leg, and victory. Pelling figured out what was going on, made whatever changes, and he got this horse right when the money was down. Pelling, perhaps better than anyone, knows how to do that. If you believe he's doing/using something illegal, so be it.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: MOHAWK FREAK on July 07, 2025, 12:54:38 PM
HORSE HAS A BIG KNEE BUT  HES ALL HEART   VERY VERY NICE HORSE,,

WAS A BEAST LAST YR AT HOOSIER ,,WE NEVER BEAT HIM,,
  I believe he did get beat but only once at Hoosier.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Checked Up on July 07, 2025, 01:58:31 PM
 tmbz1
tmbz1
Exactly like I forecasted on the 1st page of this thead,only to be told that I have an overactive mind!  This type of thievery has gone on since the inception of the game.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: AgentQ on July 07, 2025, 03:54:43 PM
Only an idiot would doubt Brett. It would take a complete moron to doubt Brett when he puts up his own money.
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: hoosierboy on July 07, 2025, 03:59:16 PM
Only an idiot would doubt Brett. It would take a complete moron to doubt Brett when he puts up his own money.
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Exactly
Title: Re: So Sabonis is pig
Post by: Laag on July 07, 2025, 09:35:19 PM
Well as predicted tge original assessment waa wrong.

Will be interesting to see how this 4 YO group fits in with the aged pacers in the Haughton next week. Wouldn't  be surprised  to see some of them skipping
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