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Title: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: toothman on May 27, 2025, 11:19:19 AM
Email from Joe Faraldo

Dear Member,

We would like to update you on the status of contract negotiations with MGM. As many of you know, the current contract was entered into in 2021 and is due to expire on May 31, 2025.

The SOA and MGM commenced negotiations in February of this year. The parties discussed their respective proposals at two separate negotiating sessions, including their views on the term of a new agreement. While MGM suggested a three year contract, the SOA proposed a six year deal. MGM only indicated that they could not agree to anything more than a five year deal. There were also a handful of unresolved issues to be negotiated. Both sides expressly agreed that it was in all parties' best interests to reach an agreement expeditiously.

However, at a third negotiating session held in early April, MGM abruptly stated that they were not in a position to negotiate a new contract. Instead, MGM incredulously took the position that MGM, one of the largest casino operators in the world, purportedly did not have the "bandwith" to even participate in negotiations with the SOA at this time, citing MGM's need to file an RFA by June 27 in connection with its application for a casino license. MGM took the position that all they would be prepared to do was to extend the current contract until the end of the year -- not engage in good faith negotiations.

Since MGM walked away from negotiations for a new contract, the SOA has repeatedly urged that the parties meet. Indeed, the current contract specifically requires MGM to meet with the SOA on a monthly basis to discuss current racing matters. Despite repeated efforts by the SOA to schedule the required meetings in April and May, MGM has breached our existing contract by flatly refusing to even meet with the SOA.

Clearly, there is no justification for MGM's refusal to engage in contract negotiations (or for its breach of the current contract) and valuable time -- essentially the entire months of April and May -- has already been wasted due to MGM's withdrawal from negotiations. There is no legitimate reason to delay negotiations until the end of the year. The idea that MGM lacks the necessary resources to even engage in negotiations is, to say the least, absurd and instead suggests that MGM is just not giving the need for an agreement between the parties the proper attention and priority which are due to the racing operations at Yonkers Raceway.

Nonetheless, since MGM claims the impending June 27 RFA deadline to be a factor which prevents it from participating in negotiations, the SOA has gone the extra step of suggesting that the parties extend their agreement for two months (which would be a full month after the cited RFA submission date) to allow time for the parties to continue and complete negotiations. This would be consistent with what transpired in 2021, when the parties negotiated their current contract. The prior contract had been due to expire on May 31, 2021, and the parties extended the agreement at that time to allow for further negotiations, resulting in successful discussions concluded at the end of July 2021 which produced the four year agreement between the parties. As was demonstrated in 2021, the parties can reach an agreement in the next two months if they are diligently working towards that goal. The SOA, for its part, is ready to do so. We have notified the Gaming Commission of the current situation, and we have reiterated our proposal that the contract be extended for two months and that the parties be required to engage in good faith negotiations

In the last few days, MGM has finally agreed to meet regarding the contract -- on June 4th, after the termination of the current contract. Given the obvious importance of the matter, we have urged that a meeting be held this week, before the termination of the current contract The SOA's negotiating team is ready to proceed as soon as possible.

We will, of course, keep you informed as to further developments. In the meantime, you should be aware that there are significant protections in the law which address any interim period where a contract is not in place. It is our belief that this should be unnecessary and it is our hope that those protections do not actually need to be invoked, but we have worked with the legislature and other government officials over the years to ensure that horsemen's rights and interests are protected in the event a contract is not in place due to one party's refusal to negotiate.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: titans1127 on May 27, 2025, 11:22:27 AM
Still blows my mind that Faraldo is still in charge 5 years after Banca was arrested.  Guy doesn't do anything good for the horseman at Yonkers or Monticello.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 11:32:26 AM
 ngc3
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: JL52 on May 27, 2025, 11:35:27 AM
The sooner the place shuts down, the better.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 11:41:09 AM
Shame it wasn't RR that survived and not the piss hole.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Parked on May 27, 2025, 11:48:58 AM
Morning line odd on winner in contract

SOA.     99-1
MGM.      1-9
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 27, 2025, 08:30:37 PM
IMO Faraldo is outmanned and outgunned. Unfortunate for the horsemen, although they chose him and follow him. Reality is MGM wants out of racing and that doesn't play out well for horsemen or horse racing.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: RobertC on May 27, 2025, 08:45:52 PM
Hopefully the shithole closes tomorrow and sends all the crooks packing.Scumbags
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: bumby on May 27, 2025, 08:47:13 PM
This Faraldo guy has always come off as a grifter and a scumbag.  Why the NY horsemen think he is the answer beats me.  "You don't have the cards!"
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: rock old school on May 27, 2025, 08:59:19 PM
Just a matter of time now. They just approved the casino at shea in the parking lot area that needed the state assembly passed easily.
So the last hurdles are done now all they need is the license now.
MGM don't care about anything but getting that license.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: bello on May 27, 2025, 09:14:57 PM

Does anyone know what protections Faraldo is referring to in the comment below. I am thinking no racing support no casino license for MGM ? 

No other reason MGM would continue racing. But if they anticipate casino revenue will take a major hit due to the Shea casino, et al. they may be willing to walk.



"In the meantime, you should be aware that there are significant protections in the law which address any interim period where a contract is not in place. It is our belief that this should be unnecessary and it is our hope that those protections do not actually need to be invoked, but we have worked with the legislature and other government officials over the years to ensure that horsemen's rights and interests are protected in the event a contract is not in place due to one party's refusal to negotiate."
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: whiptherabbit on May 27, 2025, 09:30:31 PM
If Yonkers closed, would anyone even care? It stunk when Bouchard dominated before slots, place has been a sewer for decades.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Gaagoots on May 27, 2025, 09:54:50 PM
Does anyone know what protections Faraldo is referring to in the comment below. I am thinking no racing support no casino license for MGM ? 

No other reason MGM would continue racing. But if they anticipate casino revenue will take a major hit due to the Shea casino, et al. they may be willing to walk.



"In the meantime, you should be aware that there are significant protections in the law which address any interim period where a contract is not in place. It is our belief that this should be unnecessary and it is our hope that those protections do not actually need to be invoked, but we have worked with the legislature and other government officials over the years to ensure that horsemen's rights and interests are protected in the event a contract is not in place due to one party's refusal to negotiate."
whatever you say Mike
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 27, 2025, 10:04:38 PM
Another Mike account? Damn,
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 27, 2025, 10:12:54 PM
Can't decide who is the bigger dickhead, Gaagoots [deflects everything by accusing every poster of being GCM]
or Pacer2 [who is just clearly just a dumbfuck.] Match made in heaven or maybe 'THEY' are the same person. ;D
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: rainman2 on May 27, 2025, 10:34:24 PM
Shame it wasn't RR that survived and not the piss hole.

Let's assume Roosevelt Raceway would have survived over Yonkers, who would own it today?

As soon as the VLT'S came into form, other gambling entities, MGM, Harrahs, Penn National, et al. took control?

Would it be any different today?
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: dougie on May 27, 2025, 10:52:17 PM
I grew up going to Yonkers and Roosevelt. It was a "no brainer" on which track was nicer. Roosevelt, in Westbury NY was a great track. Easy ride from Brooklyn. About 45 minutes without traffic. The real estate it sat on was prime land. Thus no more Roosevelt. Yonkers, a much longer ride, always looked "dingy". The neighborhood around it was "dicey" at best. I'm not surprised they are trying to get rid of it.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Dostoevsky on May 27, 2025, 11:21:43 PM
But where will the same ten trainers that have exclusive rights to race against each other (and themselves) every night at Yonkers go if it closes? Assuming they're not locked up...
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: bello on May 27, 2025, 11:27:53 PM
But where will the same ten trainers that have exclusive rights to race against each other (and themselves) every night at Yonkers go if it closes? Assuming they're not locked up...

https://www.pa.gov/agencies/cor/state-prisons/sci-chester.html

They will be given day passes to race at Harrahs Chester during the day. Prison bus will pick them up after the races and transport them back to jail. Proceeds from winning purses will go to Howard Taylor for their defense.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Dostoevsky on May 27, 2025, 11:40:07 PM
https://www.pa.gov/agencies/cor/state-prisons/sci-chester.html

They will be given day passes to race at Harrahs Chester during the day. Prison bus will pick them up after the races and transport them back to jail. Proceeds from winning purses will go to Howard Taylor for their defense.
I always thought it would make sense to just put the Chester paddock in the adjacent prison yard and just open the gates for each post parade. It could approximate the prison rodeos they have down south.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Stan durbread on May 28, 2025, 09:08:54 PM
Morning line odd on winner in contract

SOA.     99-1
MGM.      1-9
I’ll take SOA for $100
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Onthefront11 on May 29, 2025, 12:09:57 AM
How much has Faraldo robbed?  How many envelopes has Frasure received when the doors are closed?
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 29, 2025, 06:10:20 AM
Close Jonkers, put Faraldough in jail
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 29, 2025, 09:22:19 AM
Close Jonkers, put Faraldough in jail
   Why?
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 29, 2025, 10:57:22 AM
Every horseplayer feels the wrong track closed. LOL. Nothing more than what if, conjecture, and so on. NY doesn't have a decoupling requirement, but if there is a possibility that MGM can get out of the racing business, and keep the casino, and that appears to be the case, then they are going to do it. That's obvious. I don't know if that has anything to do with getting a license for NYC/LI or what, but they don't want racing.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Chessington on May 29, 2025, 11:04:50 AM
Can't decide who is the bigger dickhead, Gaagoots [deflects everything by accusing every poster of being GCM]
or Pacer2 [who is just clearly just a dumbfuck.] Match made in heaven or maybe 'THEY' are the same person. ;D
Spot on brother!
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: RR70s on May 29, 2025, 11:06:53 AM
I grew up going to Yonkers and Roosevelt. It was a "no brainer" on which track was nicer. Roosevelt, in Westbury NY was a great track. Easy ride from Brooklyn. About 45 minutes without traffic. The real estate it sat on was prime land. Thus no more Roosevelt. Yonkers, a much longer ride, always looked "dingy". The neighborhood around it was "dicey" at best. I'm not surprised they are trying to get rid of it.
This is all accurate. RR was ran into the ground the last few years it existed. When I went nearly all the floors were closed, and the attendance on track was @50-100 people at best.
Sadly it’s always the same story…The land is worth more developed into something other than a racetrack.
Gulfstream is next to fall. That land is worth a fortune.
I think of all the tracks I went to which are shopping centers or housing:
RR, Freehold (will be developed), Liberty Bell, Brandywine, Freestate, Foxboro, Maywood, Pompano, Calder, Hialeah, Garden State….I am sure I’m missing a bunch.
Title: Re: LAST DANCE AT YONKERS?
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 29, 2025, 11:13:08 AM
This is all accurate. RR was ran into the ground the last few years it existed. When I went nearly all the floors were closed, and the attendance on track was @50-100 people at best.
Sadly it’s always the same story…The land is worth more developed into something other than a racetrack.
Gulfstream is next to fall. That land is worth a fortune.
I think of all the tracks I went to which are shopping centers or housing:
RR, Freehold (will be developed), Liberty Bell, Brandywine, Freestate, Foxboro, Maywood, Pompano, Calder, Hialeah, Garden State….I am sure I’m missing a bunch.

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