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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Pacer 2 on May 27, 2025, 10:13:10 AM

Title: There is some good news.....
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 27, 2025, 10:13:10 AM
Harness Racing provided the State of New Jersey with over 75 million in tax revenue in 2024!
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 10:25:26 AM
Harness Racing provided the State of New Jersey with over 75 million in tax revenue in 2024!

75 million combined with Thoroughreds. Real number is 41 million. 20 million paid into the harness side by state revenue welfare. Another 10 million out of pocket by Mr. Gural. AND these are pre Freehold closing numbers. Yeah, good news!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 10:29:53 AM
And compare that with sports betting that infused 141.2 million in revenue. The casinos another 572 million. Yeah, they'd die without their orphan child called harness racing.  ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Dingus on May 27, 2025, 10:35:47 AM
75 million combined with Thoroughreds. Real number is 41 million. 20 million paid into the harness side by state revenue welfare. Another 10 million out of pocket by Mr. Gural. AND these are pre Freehold closing numbers. Yeah, good news!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Just curious how you came up with that breakdown only 12 minutes after Pacer2 posted it.
Is there a link to the numbers from each ?
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 27, 2025, 10:50:53 AM
75 million combined with Thoroughreds. Real number is 41 million. 20 million paid into the harness side by state revenue welfare. Another 10 million out of pocket by Mr. Gural. AND these are pre Freehold closing numbers. Yeah, good news!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
 
     We all know good news for harness racing TRIGGERS YOU!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 27, 2025, 11:00:04 AM
75 million combined with Thoroughreds. Real number is 41 million. 20 million paid into the harness side by state revenue welfare. Another 10 million out of pocket by Mr. Gural. AND these are pre Freehold closing numbers. Yeah, good news!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
 
     More LIES from you!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 11:40:18 AM
Uh huh...
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Over 30 million a year in handouts. Perfect business model!!!  ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Southpaw on May 27, 2025, 01:36:57 PM
$9.30 return on every dollar spent seems to be a good investment and better than actual welfare.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 01:49:25 PM
$9.30 return on every dollar spent seems to be a good investment and better than actual welfare.

Give that money to people who deserve it like disabled veterans, teachers, police....not horse killing thieves. Just one track left btw.   tmbz1
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Kenny on May 27, 2025, 01:53:59 PM
$9.30 return on every dollar spent seems to be a good investment and better than actual welfare.

This is misleading. If harness racing just disappeared, those dollars would be spent on something else.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 27, 2025, 01:54:22 PM
Give that money to people who deserve it like disabled veterans, teachers, police....not horse killing thieves. Just one track left btw.   tmbz1
   

      We all know good news for harness racing TRIGGERS YOU!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 02:05:55 PM
   

      We all know good news for harness racing TRIGGERS YOU!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Then post some good news. 10 million went back to the state? And one of the two tracks in the state closed. Another farm for sale. Gaitway hanging by a thread. NJ Horsemen fleeing for Kentucky. Good news!  ngc3
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Brown jug on May 27, 2025, 03:20:27 PM
Give that money to people who deserve it like disabled veterans, teachers, police....not horse killing thieves. Just one track left btw.   

that's what are current taxes are for , where is all that money

oh yeah being pissed away going to third world countries and to the Ukraine and god knows what else

the USA does not have a income problem , it had an expenditure problem

hopefully that will get corrected and money will stop flowing out of the USA
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 27, 2025, 04:03:14 PM
Give that money to people who deserve it like disabled veterans, teachers, police....not horse killing thieves. Just one track left btw.   

that's what are current taxes are for , where is all that money

oh yeah being pissed away going to third world countries and to the Ukraine and god knows what else

the USA does not have a income problem , it had an expenditure problem

hopefully that will get corrected and money will stop flowing out of the USA
Don't confuse state taxes with federal
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 08:27:27 PM
Don't confuse state taxes with federal

They're not confused Mike, they just don't KNOW. Never underestimate a 7th grade education.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Brown jug on May 27, 2025, 08:50:20 PM
always amazing that when you have a set agenda you can find an answer  for anything and put it in your favor
the original thread was that harness racing does make a positive economic contribution , its not a drain on the economy, perhaps not as significant as sports betting etc but positive

but you have an axe to grind on the sport it seems so you want it abolished, to you every trainer is a horse killer and every owner is corrupt for knowingly supporting the trainers
i am on record as saying i support cleaning up the sport and getting rid of the cheaters in any way possible, but there are many good people in the industry who treat horses like pets, but you choose to ignore any of that and any good that harness racing does
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 08:54:10 PM
always amazing that when you have a set agenda you can find an answer  for anything and put it in your favor
the original thread was that harness racing does make a positive economic contribution , its not a drain on the economy, perhaps not as significant as sports betting etc but positive

but you have an axe to grind on the sport it seems so you want it abolished, to you every trainer is a horse killer and every owner is corrupt for knowingly supporting the trainers
i am on record as saying i support cleaning up the sport and getting rid of the cheaters in any way possible, but there are many good people in the industry who treat horses like pets, but you choose to ignore any of that and any good that harness racing does

And you assume. With your ignorance is dangerous. You have NO fucking idea what I've been doing to help the little guys do you? The honest ones who were afraid to speak out, so I DID IT. You really are one special kind of jackass. Maybe listen.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Gaagoots on May 27, 2025, 09:56:05 PM
75 million combined with Thoroughreds. Real number is 41 million. 20 million paid into the harness side by state revenue welfare. Another 10 million out of pocket by Mr. Gural. AND these are pre Freehold closing numbers. Yeah, good news!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
don't you ever have anything positive to say? You're always sarcastic or coming in with your negative comments.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Gaagoots on May 27, 2025, 09:57:10 PM
Harness Racing provided the State of New Jersey with over 75 million in tax revenue in 2024!
That's 75 million more than we would've had if Mr. Gural didn't save harness racing in New Jersey.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 27, 2025, 10:03:19 PM
That's 75 million more than we would've had if Mr. Gural didn't save harness racing in New Jersey.

Hmmmmmm...Goots, That Press Release?...Your credibility is sinking faster than the my Tesla stock!
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Brown jug on May 28, 2025, 04:39:48 PM
really mr revolution, trying to help the little guys, how by trying to eliminate the sport /income that they depend on for a livelihood
I'm all for cleaning up the sport in whatever way possible but i would like there to be a sport at the end of it
your goal appears to be to eliminate it from the face of the earth , that its evil and hurting lots of people
exactly how does that help the small trainers , grooms, vets, truckers, equipment makers, feed growers
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 28, 2025, 05:17:28 PM
don't you ever have anything positive to say? You're always sarcastic or coming in with your negative comments.

You spew hate, racism and anti semitism , you are a vulgar POS
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 28, 2025, 05:50:31 PM
really mr revolution, trying to help the little guys, how by trying to eliminate the sport /income that they depend on for a livelihood
I'm all for cleaning up the sport in whatever way possible but i would like there to be a sport at the end of it
your goal appears to be to eliminate it from the face of the earth , that its evil and hurting lots of people
exactly how does that help the small trainers , grooms, vets, truckers, equipment makers, feed growers

I repeat, you're a fucking idiot. Gonna have to break some eggs to make an omelette. Once the dust clears the little guys will stand a chance. Or should we stay the course and continue to allow these scumbags to take the money and control good people with fear. I mean your really are a fucking idiot to the tenth power.
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Stan durbread on May 28, 2025, 08:31:33 PM
I repeat, you're a fucking idiot. Gonna have to break some eggs to make an omelette. Once the dust clears the little guys will stand a chance. Or should we stay the course and continue to allow these scumbags to take the money and control good people with fear. I mean your really are a fucking idiot to the tenth power.
Pointing out the breakdowns that happen 1 of every 1000 starts to PETA ain’t helping nobody
Title: Re: There is some good news.....
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 28, 2025, 08:36:06 PM
Pointing out the breakdowns that happen 1 of every 1000 starts to PETA ain’t helping nobody

Up until last week, what have you people done to rid the game of the people fucking YOU??? Unless you're one of them. Wanna dramatically decrease horses breaking down during a mile? Don't race them sore or lame. What's so fucking difficult about that?
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