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Title: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: richesskid on May 24, 2025, 09:33:35 AM
Race 11 another breakdown in the first "turn". Horse shattered leg and put down . This place is jinxed
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: White Rabbit on May 24, 2025, 10:05:28 AM
A friend of ours from here raced there yesterday and has been for a few weeks, he said that there’s a gaint black soft spot that the horse stepped in. If you watch any of the replays from yesterday you can see it in the turn. I guess from what he could understand if and complaining then out you good. 
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Raging pace on May 24, 2025, 10:08:24 AM
Track surface is horrendous, one of the worst ! When you have people doing the track that don’t  know anything else other than to drag it and water it, this is what happens, a fucked up shit race surface. Good friend of mine had a nice stake horse last year, had very well known driver from Yonkers drive his horse, after the race the driver told my buddy , I will never ever drive a horse at this shit hole race surface again until they fix this track, still not fixed , still a shithole !
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 24, 2025, 10:26:11 PM
The track has more holes in it than Swiss cheese, drivers and trainers need to boycott the entry box till this surface is repaired. Oaxacan Dream was one of the top horses racing at this dump! RIP OX.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 25, 2025, 03:03:52 AM
I did not see the race, was it the spot they just worked on? Where there is water underneath the surface or a different spot?
That track surface is the worst.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: PIGLAND on May 25, 2025, 07:52:26 AM
thats a very sharp turn
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Inside The Track on May 25, 2025, 08:30:45 AM
Between all the drugs and the beard trainers I am surprised it doesn't happen more. Buffalo Raceway should be closed.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Parked on May 25, 2025, 09:18:17 AM
thats a very sharp turn

All tracks have turns, some sharper than others but at Buffalo it is a CORNER !!!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: right way on May 25, 2025, 05:28:47 PM
Mango is to busy handing out whipping violations and making up rules as he goes. Can’t say anything about the track or you're kicked off . Rice was saying she stepped in that hole Mango little minion Agosti was screaming so loud at him you could hear him across the track. Try to throw him out for saying it was the track.  It was the track because the next day they  are out there trying to fix the hole
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: rainman2 on May 25, 2025, 05:41:37 PM
All tracks have turns, some sharper than others but at Buffalo it is a CORNER !!!

And what makes it worse is that the gate opens @ 35 mph and 5 steps your into the (corner) at full speed!!!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 25, 2025, 06:30:05 PM
Mango is to busy handing out whipping violations and making up rules as he goes. Can’t say anything about the track or you're kicked off . Rice was saying she stepped in that hole Mango little minion Agosti was screaming so loud at him you could hear him across the track. Try to throw him out for saying it was the track.  It was the track because the next day they  are out there trying to fix the hole


The spot that has standing water beneath it?
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: right way on May 25, 2025, 06:42:10 PM
No this is the first turn 2/3 path the other spot where the water is the 3/4 pole . You can see it on the replay,How the track is different colors and the mare sinks in it and her leg snaps.  Mango is worried about handing whipping days not safety of the horses out there. Oh his latest rule you can’t enter to qualify if you raced that week. It’s not good for the horse. But holes in the track are ok ….. If you say anything about the track your kicked out.He yells at the horseman to get off the track if they are looking and makes fun of them with the track man Dylo.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 25, 2025, 09:34:41 PM
Mango is to busy handing out whipping violations and making up rules as he goes. Can’t say anything about the track or you're kicked off . Rice was saying she stepped in that hole Mango little minion Agosti was screaming so loud at him you could hear him across the track. Try to throw him out for saying it was the track.  It was the track because the next day they  are out there trying to fix the hole

      Yup Jack was holding her, someone asked what happened Jack said she stepped in a hole and snapped her hind leg off. Agosti's head exploded swearing at Jack, told him he was kicked out of the racetrack. The State Vet and Starter heard it all and reported it all and turned Tom Agosti in to the Presiding Judge. But nothing changes there!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 25, 2025, 10:42:22 PM
No this is the first turn 2/3 path the other spot where the water is the 3/4 pole . You can see it on the replay,How the track is different colors and the mare sinks in it and her leg snaps.  Mango is worried about handing whipping days not safety of the horses out there. Oh his latest rule you can’t enter to qualify if you raced that week. It’s not good for the horse. But holes in the track are ok ….. If you say anything about the track your kicked out.He yells at the horseman to get off the track if they are looking and makes fun of them with the track man Dylo.


Mango is a real piece of work and im being kind.
He has kicked people out for less and then wonders why the Hell he doesn't have enough horses.
That track is dangerous and I cant bring myself to watch the replay, knowing what occurred.
Thank you for the explanation.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: White Rabbit on May 26, 2025, 10:32:53 AM
I just received a email from a person there ,sent me pictures but I do not know how to add them on here , the black hole in the first turn is now being dug up. It appears to be est 4 yds wide x 7 yards long, 2 1/2 yards deep.
If there was not a problem why did the excavate such a spot.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 26, 2025, 11:44:41 AM
I just received a email from a person there ,sent me pictures but I do not know how to add them on here , the black hole in the first turn is now being dug up. It appears to be est 4 yds wide x 7 yards long, 2 1/2 yards deep.
If there was not a problem why did the excavate such a spot.

You should be able to add a picture via the attachments.
I dont have faith that it will be done correctly, and it should not have taken a tragedy for them to attempt at fixing it.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 27, 2025, 04:52:30 PM
Meanwhile Mango had Security Guards notify everyone the track was closed Memorial Day, and if anyone looked at the track or took photos they would be removed and barred from Buffalo Raceway forever. I think they are worried that attorneys will soon be involved! They had a huge portion of the 1st turn tore up.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Inside The Track on May 27, 2025, 05:51:36 PM
Reports out there that P.E.T.A. is going to do an investigation. Thats why Mango freaking out again. If the drug trainers can't kill the horses fast enough, certainly Mango and his track will.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 27, 2025, 07:16:50 PM
Think there will be a change in PJ tomorrow? If not will anyone trust that guy now?
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: talkstohisself on May 27, 2025, 07:21:57 PM
that track is on the grounds of the Erie Co. fair. I wonder if mango is overstepping his authority by limiting access  to photograph the work. I know he likes to use law Enforcment to push people around He did it to a friend of mine some years back that questioned a race.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: right way on May 27, 2025, 07:35:02 PM
Mango is threaten to cancel the meet if they don’t race. Im  not sure if that’s possible.. is it? Don’t you have to go thru the state ?
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: talkstohisself on May 27, 2025, 07:37:35 PM
What does the horsemen's rep. have to say
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: White Rabbit on May 27, 2025, 08:27:19 PM
Seems like Magoo  is off the rails. Instead of addressing the track that’s a horse grave yard he thinks he can just stop racing. I saw in their program that he has his own track whipping rule to protect the horses, but no mention of the unsafe track. He went off the rails last year when he went after D. Monti but their association did not seem to care.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 27, 2025, 08:29:27 PM
What does the horsemen's rep. have to say

     He won't return anyone's phone call, this is a bad bunch!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: getreal on May 27, 2025, 09:44:50 PM
Jim Mango is a complete tool. NO ONE likes him, some put up with him. Accept maybe Agosti, He may just put up with his nonsense. Guy is trying to kill racing in our little niche. Rumor has it he likes to look at 14 year old girls, not sure if that's true or not, just what I was told. Either way, he's a bumb and a lunatic.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 30, 2025, 12:46:03 PM
Buffalo brought in a guy that works the Meadowlands Track to do the repairs. NYSS told them fix the track or lose the sire stake races!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Parked on May 30, 2025, 05:44:22 PM
Well, they have until June 4 th..
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: drawbar on May 31, 2025, 09:12:45 AM
I guess rice's weren't too upset, they continue to race there.  They'll fix the track for stake races, but who cares about overnight horses to fix the track earlier.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 31, 2025, 11:55:38 AM
RICE=JOSH MARKS
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 31, 2025, 05:19:46 PM
RICE=JOSH MARKS

    If Josh Marks had any contact with Jack Rice his horses would be unbeatable!
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 31, 2025, 07:48:26 PM
    If Josh Marks had any contact with Jack Rice his horses would be unbeatable!
Believe what you want. In fact, there was a time when Jack drove all of Josh Marks' horses.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: drawbar on May 31, 2025, 07:52:05 PM
Mark Ford owned horses now racing at buffalo as well
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Raging pace on May 31, 2025, 07:54:37 PM
Rice and mark both no strangers to positives, marks just uses alot more drugs than rice !
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 31, 2025, 08:01:19 PM
Believe what you want. In fact, there was a time when Jack drove all of Josh Marks' horses.

   I know both very well, I've known them for over 30 years. Even before they both had a bridle on Tracy! Your dreams of Jack using Josh's Enhancer is a pipe dream, and that's a fact.
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 31, 2025, 08:03:27 PM
   I know both very well, I've known them for over 30 years. Even before they both had a bridle on Tracy! Your dreams of Jack using Josh's Enhancer is a pipe dream, and that's a fact.
Once again, believe what you want
Title: Re: Buffalo Raceway claims another one
Post by: Raging pace on May 31, 2025, 08:09:17 PM
Years ago rice rented stalls at a farm track from a friend of mine. They had cameras in there and jack was seen plenty of times coming in late at night with his little black bag going into each stall giving his horses alittle something xtra.
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