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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Cleanupindustry on May 19, 2025, 11:46:14 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind that Preakness winner should definitely been taken down..watch replay carefully the outside horse tried real hard to keep winner boxed in. The winner rammed the outside horse with the horses head to get out and that outside horse lost like 3 lengths when he did it that horse finished 4th winner should’ve been placed 4th. No balls judges.
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I'll say I was SHOCKED that it was official that quickly. I had told my wife that it would 10 minutes
as soon as the race was over. Hell the horse didn't get back around for the picture and it was already up.
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There is no doubt in my mind that Preakness winner should definitely been taken down..watch replay carefully the outside horse tried real hard to keep winner boxed in. The winner rammed the outside horse with the horses head to get out and that outside horse lost like 3 lengths when he did it that horse finished 4th winner should’ve been placed 4th. No balls judges.
you must have been watching a different race
Bafferts horse crushed the winner--and they don't penalize a winning horse for something that wasn't his fault
it was a chain reaction--this isn't harness racing
the winner didn't "ram the outside horse"--but was slammed into by Prat riding #1(Baffert)-causing Jounalism to bump into a fading horse(Clever Again #8)
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I'll say I was SHOCKED that it was official that quickly. I had told my wife that it would 10 minutes
as soon as the race was over. Hell the horse didn't get back around for the picture and it was already up.
AMAZING they put up an inquiry, didn't 'blink' any numbers and went official so quickly. Almost like they were pressured to hurry up for network TV
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I didn't hear one commentator, expert, or professional, even remotely infer the winner was at fault, to blame, or whatever. Nobody even brought it up as a possibility. Maybe I saw it differently.
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There is no doubt in my mind that Preakness winner should definitely been taken down..watch replay carefully the outside horse tried real hard to keep winner boxed in. The winner rammed the outside horse with the horses head to get out and that outside horse lost like 3 lengths when he did it that horse finished 4th winner should’ve been placed 4th. No balls judges.
I suggest you watch the overhead camera and then you’ll agree it was caused by #1
https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/watch-journalism-win-the-2025-preakness-stakes-from-overhead
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The jockey was fortunate to get through because he had him in a bad spot.
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The jockey was fortunate to get through because he had him in a bad spot.
absolutely
If that was Angel Cordero or Irad instead of Prat on #1--Journalism gets buried
did anyone notice that it appeared Flat threw an elbow at Rispoli?
i think one of the NBC commentators made a brief sentence about it
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Papillon.....you mentioned my favorite rider of all time.....Angel Cordero, Jr. I grew up at the NY tracks. I loved what was then an amazing jockey colony. Cordero, Eddie Maple. Mike Venezia, Jorge Velasquez, Jean Cruguet (great on the grass), and Jacinto Vasquez. Great days on the NY Circuit!
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Papillon.....you mentioned my favorite rider of all time.....Angel Cordero, Jr. I grew up at the NY tracks. I loved in what was an amazing jockey colony. Cordero, Eddie Maple. Mike Venezia, Jorge Velasquez, Jean Cruguet (great on the grass), and Jacinto Vasquez. Great days on the NY Circuit!
yes, Cordero was always a favorite of mine
he rode Codex perfectly--floating out Genuine Risk
all of those names you mentioned of course will always be remembered
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I'll say I was SHOCKED that it was official that quickly. I had told my wife that it would 10 minutes
as soon as the race was over. Hell the horse didn't get back around for the picture and it was already up.
I was also shocked how fast the race was declared Official.
The Judges couldn't have looked at the stretch that quickly (if at all).
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They did post the inquiry sign.
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It was a TERRIBLE and lucky ride by Rispoli. Had every opportunity to move four deep on the turn where he would have won by daylight.
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A) If just an overnight race DISQUALIFIED 100%.
B) Without doubt no “real” look or discussion between the stewards were done due to time restraints from the network.
C) the drone footage to me shows there was no room BUT do the stewards look at that footage or just the pan shots? The pan shots were hard to tell.
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I bet the nine pretty good Flavin was little over the top aggressive Respoli said in a interview he shouted at flavin to get off him. then admitted the one got the worse off it I Thought they would look at a little longer for my sake for journalism to run down a loose leader like that he is a special horse .Respoli did throw a elbow but that was a survival tactic
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There is no doubt in my mind that Preakness winner should definitely been taken down..watch replay carefully the outside horse tried real hard to keep winner boxed in. The winner rammed the outside horse with the horses head to get out and that outside horse lost like 3 lengths when he did it that horse finished 4th winner should’ve been placed 4th. No balls judges.
Watching the overhead view I would say the rider of #1 should get a substantial penalty for the move to the left. Almost took both of them down
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Rispoli is partly to blame for putting his horse in a bad spot.
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Papillon.....you mentioned my favorite rider of all time.....Angel Cordero, Jr. I grew up at the NY tracks. I loved what was then an amazing jockey colony. Cordero, Eddie Maple. Mike Venezia, Jorge Velasquez, Jean Cruguet (great on the grass), and Jacinto Vasquez. Great days on the NY Circuit!
Don’t forget Braulio Baeza, ramrod straight in the saddle, and whose son is an NYRA steward. At the other end of the scale, there was a house rider named Concepcion Ledezma, who, if riding at all, was always 100-1.
In the middle, Hedley Woodhouse, memorable not just because of the English manor sounding name, but because he won, by a nostril, on “ Buz On”, returning $95.80 for $2, forever setting this then-teenager on a path of parimutuel betting. I believe it was on Belmont Stakes day circa 1967.
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I loved Cordero. Beat Affirmed with Seattle Slew. Nearly broke Secretariat's world record that day.
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Mike Campbell, I remember that race. Seattle Slew is my favorite horse of all time. Trained by Doug Peterson and then Billy Turner Jr. What a horse!
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JL52, Baeza was a great jockey. I remember when he rode Foolish Pleasure against Ruffian in that match race. He was looking back with great concern for Ruffian and Jacinto Vasquez.
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Mike Campbell, I remember that race. Seattle Slew is my favorite horse of all time. Trained by Doug Peterson and then Billy Turner Jr. What a horse!
Beautiful horse. I got to see him up close in the paddock at The Meadowlands. He shined like a mirror. Unfortunately, that was the race he got beat by Dr. Patches and Cruguet lost the ride on him.
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Mike Campell, I remember that he cost $17,500 at the Fasig-Tipton sale in 1975. I always loved horses bred from that Bold Ruler line. I only saw him race once in person at the Belmont Stakes in 1977. I remember trying to hit a cold exacta with Sanhedrin for second. Jorge Velasquez was making a big move, but flattened out. And Run Dusty Run got up for second. Cost me my cold $20 exacta. LOL!
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While I don’t think the eventual winner should have had an Inquiry, Rispoli never seemed to have the horse relaxed. He rode the horse into a bad spot, and the horse was great enough to find a burst and explode in the last 100 yards (combined with leader getting tired). I noticed from what trainer McCarthy said and his expressions, he was really P’off at Rispoli’s ride.
He seemed to have a look of disgust towards the jock IMO.
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Mike Campell, I remember that he cost $17,500 at the Fasig-Tipton sale in 1975. I always loved horses bred from that Bold Ruler line. I only saw him race once in person at the Belmont Stakes in 1977. I remember trying to hit a cold exacta with Sanhedrin for second. Jorge Velasquez was making a big move, but flattened out. And Run Dusty Run got up for second. Cost me my cold $20 exacta. LOL!
wow--unforgettable names from that year for me as well
another one that year was Iron Constitution
that year was about 2 years after the Garden St fire--and they held a couple of Jersey Derbies at Atlantic City in the late 70s
I was maybe 13 years old and had a win bet on Iron Constitution and he barely won vs Sanhedrin and Run Dusty Run
The Jersey Derby was always held on Memorial Day weekend so the race rarely saw Triple Crown horses
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wow--unforgettable names from that year for me as well
another one that year was Iron Constitution
that year was about 2 years after the Garden St fire--and they held a couple of Jersey Derbies at Atlantic City in the late 70s
I was maybe 13 years old and had a win bet on Iron Constitution and he barely won vs Sanhedrin and Run Dusty Run
The Jersey Derby was always held on Memorial Day weekend so the race rarely saw Triple Crown horses
I loved Iron Constitution. Made a huge score on him at Hialeah. Gray horse, big heart.
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I loved Iron Constitution. Made a huge score on him at Hialeah. Gray horse, big heart.
Yes
always showed guts in the last part of the race--loved getting into a battle
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Mike Campbell, Paplilon, I too liked Iron Constituion. Great horse. I used to drive down to Hialeah. What a beautiful track.
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Mike Campbell, Paplilon, I too liked Iron Constituion. Great horse. I used to drive down to Hialeah. What a beautiful track.
Flamingos in the infield. Just beautiful.