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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 15, 2025, 07:55:15 AM
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During the winter it's one thing, but with the good horses qualified now what's the excuse?
Just awful. Friday is hard to look at
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During the winter it's one thing, but with the good horses qualified now what's the excuse?
Just awful. Friday is hard to look at
Dunno, I enjoy the Meadowlands racing....
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It's a Freehold Card. 4 races of 68 TM and under, 1 TM 71 and under, 3 races 74 TM and under, and 4 amateur races.
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New RACE SECRETARY is previous FREEHOLD RACE SECRETARY.....Wha t do you expect
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Is the race secretary doing Vernon too. Noticed they now have ae claimers on every race. Seldom saw that in past. Use to bet vernon some as liked the big track and hungry drivers. No more..
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Is the race secretary doing Vernon too. Noticed they now have ae claimers on every race. Seldom saw that in past. Use to bet vernon some as liked the big track and hungry drivers. No more..
If that’s true then just shut the entire place down.
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During the winter it's one thing, but with the good horses qualified now what's the excuse?
Just awful. Friday is hard to look at
Perhaps quite a few reasons for this:
Take a look at pocono Saturday afternoon.
I believe there are 5 good races for better horses. Look at the trainers and how things are enforced there too!
Yonkers races for more purse money.
If you have a “cheap” card, this means (in theory), you can fill out a race card and perhaps have more competitive fields to bet on and save on the purse account too!!
Not many good horses available??
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the quality of horse is irrelevant to their handle(M1)
the upper level horses race at Pocono and Yonkers....... better purses
the amateur races at M1 handle the same as the other races-so Gural doesn't care
also agree-there are not that many good horses to go around
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I can't help but wonder if there are some provisions in Gural's agreement with the State (or whomever). Not the first I've seen "economic hardship" language.
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I can't help but wonder if there are some provisions in Gural's agreement with the State (or whomever). Not the first I've seen "economic hardship" language.
Gural wants more than the $10mil he already gets from NJ
maybe his drag/CAW experiment was to show "economic hardship"-so he can posture for it
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the quality of horse is irrelevant to their handle(M1)
the upper level horses race at Pocono and Yonkers....... better purses
the amateur races at M1 handle the same as the other races-so Gural doesn't care
also agree-there are not that many good horses to go around
Do bettors/gamblers want:
3 dollar winners on the tote board
8 dollar exactas
25 dollar trifectas
Or do they want value to make a decent return on their investment??
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New RACE SECRETARY is previous FREEHOLD RACE SECRETARY.....Wha t do you expect
Is a Race Secretary supposed to spin hay into gold?
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Do bettors/gamblers want:
3 dollar winners on the tote board
8 dollar exactas
25 dollar trifectas
Or do they want value to make a decent return on their investment??
the days of prices and horses winning from 3rd over are long gone
you want to make those prices you mentioned better?--then ban CAW action
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Only six full fields this weekend. Half of those are MADC. Jeff usually gets upset when he is short horses.
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Do bettors/gamblers want:
3 dollar winners on the tote board
8 dollar exactas
25 dollar trifectas
Or do they want value to make a decent return on their investment??
what you have posted has absolutely nothing to do with how good the horses are in quality--take a look at the prices at Yonkers and Pocono
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M1 is still the BEST the industry has to offer. No other harness track can hold a candle to the M1 overall product and experience.
Times are tough in harness right now so we simply must live with lower level races to fill 14 race cards. I may be in the minority but I find that these lower level and amateur races are awesome to wager on.
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"No track can hold a candle to M[1]." Put down the pipe and quit living in the past LAR. 11.wp 11.wp
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Meadowlands probably have 10 really good cards during the entire meet tops, the rest of the time is mediocre to bad racing with too many amateur races. Just because the top drivers are there doesn't mean their product is what it used to be because it isn't.
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It's an embarrassment that only 2 of the regular drivers are showing up just for a couple of drives. The others are either at Yonkers, drove during the day at Chester or took the night off. Yogi Sheridan has more drives than Zeron and Miller do. There are 4 amateur races and some also have drives in other races too.
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It's an embarrassment that only 2 of the regular drivers are showing up just for a couple of drives. The others are either at Yonkers, drove during the day at Chester or took the night off. Yogi Sheridan has more drives than Zeron and Miller do. There are 4 amateur races and some also have drives in other races too.
100% correct. I’ll pass on this shit. The quarter horses at Remington are much more exciting and better to bet on.
Also, for tonight, the place will be packed with Knicks fans betting big vs Celtics. No racing fans.
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The purpose of racing there IS TO GET A CASINO.
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The purpose of racing there IS TO GET A CASINO.
That is correct and it’s a futile attempt. They won’t EVER get a casino at that location.
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During the winter it's one thing, but with the good horses qualified now what's the excuse?
Just awful. Friday is hard to look at
Hey SCM what do you have against the Meadowlands!?
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The purpose of racing there IS TO GET A CASINO.
THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
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The racing product at the Meadowlands is simply poor right now. Compare it to other tracks and say it's better, worse, whatever. It doesn't matter. If you like it better, then play. If you don't, then don't. For me, what I am looking for as a bettor, it's poor. As a fan, it's also poor, as a whole.
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The racing product at the Meadowlands is simply poor right now. Compare it to other tracks and say it's better, worse, whatever. It doesn't matter. If you like it better, then play. If you don't, then don't. For me, what I am looking for as a bettor, it's poor. As a fan, it's also poor, as a whole.
why are you also commenting under Yonkers1a?? Under that alias you bash the Meadowlands now you’re trying to kiss up…. it’s not going to work little man.
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why are you also commenting under Yonkers1a?? Under that alias you bash the Meadowlands now you’re trying to kiss up…. it’s not going to work little man.
Other than you nobody gives a shit if the guy posts under a different name. You’re probably wrong too. The fact is The Meadowlands sucks. The building is very uncomfortable. The food at the Restaurant is terrible. It’s an awful place to go to and the racing is shit too.
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Hey SCM what do you have against the Meadowlands!?
Shhhhhhh, you'll wake the beast. It's been nice the last few days.
Don't F I U!
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M1 is still the BEST the industry has to offer. No other harness track can hold a candle to the M1 overall product and experience.
Times are tough in harness right now so we simply must live with lower level races to fill 14 race cards. I may be in the minority but I find that these lower level and amateur races are awesome to wager on.
tmbz1 I agree. And the amateur racing brings lots of new fans to the sport.
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The jig is up
Grandstand Handicapper = pertrelli
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tmbz1 I agree. And the amateur racing brings lots of new fans to the sport.
Ugh. I've heard this so many times.
Harness racing has no fans. Its not a spectator sport.
What is has is gamblers. And no. Amatuer races do not bring any gamblers to the sport.
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Ugh. I've heard this so many times.
Harness racing has no fans. Its not a spectator sport.
What is has is gamblers. And no. Amatuer races do not bring any gamblers to the sport.
The amateurs friends and family often come out to watch "their" amateur. Lots of new people at the track. And BTW learn how to spell amateur!
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tmbz1 I agree. And the amateur racing brings lots of new fans to the sport.
completely delusional post ngc3
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The amateurs friends and family often come out to watch "their" amateur. Lots of new people at the track. And BTW learn how to spell amateur!
Exactly. They are watching. They are not gambling. People coming out to watch is 100% useless
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why are you also commenting under Yonkers1a?? Under that alias you bash the Meadowlands now you’re trying to kiss up…. it’s not going to work little man.
It's a friggn' bulletin board. It's not me, but nice try. Enjoy yourself with that. I have no alias and never posted under one. I support Gural and his efforts, but I am still entitled to say the product is poor. Good luck with your policing.
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The jig is up
Grandstand Handicapper = pertrelli
LOL. Good luck with that. I've never been more grateful for something not being true.
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tmbz1 I agree. And the amateur racing brings lots of new fans to the sport.
You think bringing a bunch of old men driving brings new fans to the sport? When's the last time you peed in a bottle, it's time.
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Exactly. They are watching. They are not gambling. People coming out to watch is 100% useless
Agree they are not high rollers but they do gamble some. And they frequent the concession stands.....
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You think bringing a bunch of old men driving brings new fans to the sport? When's the last time you peed in a bottle, it's time.
Its not all old men ngc3 Many start young! Anthony Nap was an amateur for years.
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Agree they are not high rollers but they do gamble some. And they frequent the concession stands.....
I don't mean to come down hard on you pacer2. Apologies. What you said is a topic that just kills me. Game is never treated as a gambling game and it will end up killing the industry
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Its not all old men ngc3 Many start young! Anthony Nap was an amateur for years.
There are some younger guys but many of the drivers are also very heavy. I usually don't bet those races anyway.
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I try not to get too wrapped up in this anymore BUT since you are giving out lessons Pacer,
try using an apostrophe when referring to 'amateur's' friends. 11.wp
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I don't mean to come down hard on you pacer2. Apologies. What you said is a topic that just kills me. Game is never treated as a gambling game and it will end up killing the industry
Its ok. I'm smart enough to realize that I'm not going to change your mind and your not going to change mine...and I'm pretty thick skinned. tmbz1
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I try not to get too wrapped up in this anymore BUT since you are giving out lessons Pacer,
try using an apostrophe when referring to 'amateur's' friends. 11.wp
TY
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I try not to get too wrapped up in this anymore BUT since you are giving out lessons Pacer,
try using an apostrophe when referring to 'amateur's' friends. 11.wp
Waste of a perfectly good 7th grade education.
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Waste of a perfectly good 7th grade education.
That"s a problem for you. You cant win any argument with me because you are far too dumb! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Amatuer racing is fine, creates interest for people in the sport, participants, and so on. When you use it constantly to fill a card, it will be the downfall of your product.