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Title: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Locked in with pace on May 15, 2025, 07:17:13 AM
How bad is it??
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Deadbeat on May 15, 2025, 07:30:47 AM
Why put money into something you’re shutting down in a few years once racing is uncoupled from the casino?

If Yonkers doesn’t get the casino, they’ll shut racing down since their revenue will go way down.

If they get the casino they will shut racing down saying they need the room for expansion. Have you seen the barns?

Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: The Exporter on May 15, 2025, 08:56:47 AM
Those concrete equine cells were condemned over 30 years ago.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 15, 2025, 09:04:33 AM
Why put money into something you’re shutting down in a few years once racing is uncoupled from the casino?

If Yonkers doesn’t get the casino, they’ll shut racing down since their revenue will go way down.

If they get the casino they will shut racing down saying they need the room for expansion. Have you seen the barns?
 
   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years!   ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: jupiter on May 15, 2025, 05:43:39 PM
Health hazard, I thought it was bad 30 years ago. It's 30 years worse.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Stan durbread on May 15, 2025, 07:18:11 PM
Why put money into something you’re shutting down in a few years once racing is uncoupled from the casino?

If Yonkers doesn’t get the casino, they’ll shut racing down since their revenue will go way down.

If they get the casino they will shut racing down saying they need the room for expansion. Have you seen the barns?
Yonkers has a casino. Or at least a slots parlor. Their revenue ain’t going nowhere. Most real casinos make 90% of the money on slots.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 15, 2025, 07:23:29 PM
I think Yonkers may have close to 5000 machines-----slots, video poker, keno, and video table games like craps, baccarat, blackjack, and roulette.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: seen2much on May 15, 2025, 07:51:43 PM
The last time I was at Yonkers the betting section was the same. How old are those colored row chairs? At least they had some newer tv's.
I was in the paddock to see a friend's horse. The roof was leaking. What struck me as odd was the ramp up to the track.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Papillon on May 15, 2025, 07:52:30 PM
Can someone explain why these all aren't full blown casinos and not just slots or video games?

is it that they can charge more for those gaming licenses?

why don't all these tracks in NY have full blown casinos--i mean craps, blackjack, roulette, baccarat and any other game

I don't get it

Vernon
Tioga
Buffalo
Batavia
Saratoga
Monticello(already has Resorts World)?
Yonkers
Finger Lakes
NYRA
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: JT on May 15, 2025, 08:07:46 PM
Can someone explain why these all aren't full blown casinos and not just slots or video games?

is it that they can charge more for those gaming licenses?

why don't all these tracks in NY have full blown casinos--i mean craps, blackjack, roulette, baccarat and any other game

I don't get it

Vernon
Tioga
Buffalo
Batavia
Saratoga
Monticello(already has Resorts World)?
Yonkers
Finger Lakes
NYRA
I'm not sure about New York, but in Ohio it was kinda weird. We have 4 casinos.. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo. No racing, just slots and table games. That was passed by the voters. Then we have multiple racinos.. Scioto, Dayton, Miami Valley, Northfield, Thistledowns, Belterra and Mahoning Valley. Those all have racing and slots only and was passed by the state legislature.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Papillon on May 15, 2025, 08:16:35 PM
thanks

in PA they all have full casinos(I am fairly sure)

Chester
Pocono
Meadows
Presque Isle
Parx
Penn National

and a few other small casinos with no tracks
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Stan durbread on May 15, 2025, 08:35:38 PM
Can someone explain why these all aren't full blown casinos and not just slots or video games?

is it that they can charge more for those gaming licenses?

why don't all these tracks in NY have full blown casinos--i mean craps, blackjack, roulette, baccarat and any other game

I don't get it

Vernon
Tioga
Buffalo
Batavia
Saratoga
Monticello(already has Resorts World)?
Yonkers
Finger Lakes
NYRA
In NY the law that was passed allows Video Lottery Terminals. Just like the Historical Racing machines they resemble slit machines but pay out a little different than traditional slot machines. Those 2 new types were a work around to get the laws passed.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: The Exporter on May 16, 2025, 06:07:12 AM
Stan, you got that right. That was 24 years ago. A new model  of raring and gaming is now making it's way across the USA. One that does not include a direct subsidy of racing.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 16, 2025, 07:03:40 AM
Can someone explain why these all aren't full blown casinos and not just slots or video games?

is it that they can charge more for those gaming licenses?

why don't all these tracks in NY have full blown casinos--i mean craps, blackjack, roulette, baccarat and any other game

I don't get it

Vernon
Tioga
Buffalo
Batavia
Saratoga
Monticello(already has Resorts World)?
Yonkers
Finger Lakes
NYRA

Tioga has a full Casino license with Craps Black Jack etc. originally Tioga was left out, however Jeff Gural flashed cash and he was given a license. NY will issue 3 more full licenses for NYC that will crush the Casino in Monticello

Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Gaagoots on May 16, 2025, 07:19:28 AM
Tioga has a full Casino license with Craps Black Jack etc. originally Tioga was left out, however Jeff Gural flashed cash and he was given a license. NY will issue 3 more full licenses for NYC that will crush the Casino in Monticello
Mike please post proof of that.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Deadbeat on May 16, 2025, 07:39:37 AM
Tioga has a full Casino license with Craps Black Jack etc. originally Tioga was left out, however Jeff Gural flashed cash and he was given a license. NY will issue 3 more full licenses for NYC that will crush the Casino in Monticello
Didn’t the casino at Monti close a few years ago?
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: The Exporter on May 16, 2025, 08:31:27 AM
Sure did.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Superfecta on May 16, 2025, 08:54:46 AM
Didn’t the casino at Monti close a few years ago?

Resort World has a full casino with a hotel 3 miles away from the racetrack.
They also have slot machines at a mall in Newburgh.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on May 16, 2025, 05:32:12 PM
Expecting the current owner to invest any monies into the racing side of the facility is foolish. Necessary evil. Unfortunate. Very sad.
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: talkstohisself on May 16, 2025, 10:36:53 PM
The money in the slots period ,why some clown is shaking the dice 300 old folks blew their ss check
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: RR70s on May 17, 2025, 07:21:16 AM
Lived in that barn area at YR 40+ years ago and it should have been condemned then.
RR wasn’t bad but that deteriorated fast. Those were the days I guess,
When certain tracks provided ok living space (aside from YR)
Title: Re: YONKERS PADDOCK
Post by: Stan durbread on May 17, 2025, 11:07:35 AM
Expecting the current owner to invest any monies into the racing side of the facility is foolish. Necessary evil. Unfortunate. Very sad.
Unfortunately it is not only the track owners. The horseman have voted several times to keep the money for purses instead of partnering up to improve paddock
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