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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 10, 2025, 07:42:36 AM
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The star of the night once again was the 84% welfare purse subsidy thanks to NYS and the NYS Lottery who fund most of you. Facts is facts, don't even try to justify the money that you steal saying "well without us...blah blah BS blah". Decoupling is coming and that will be that. But again, it's hilarious to see the handle for a half million dollar race, your sport it doing so well. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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The Buffalo Bills got 1.25 Billion from New York State. Tesla has got 38 BILLION in rebates and energy credits, called government welfare Many industries propped up by welfare. I will agree Yonkers is corrupt but that goes back to Faraldo and is a separate issue. And I will agree that the sport would not survive without subsidies. But it does employ a lot of hard working people , many who would have a hard time working in other industries.
PS-it is your sport too as you post on it everyday and it seems to give you importance. You must have friends in the sport but somehow take pleasure if they come to financial demise and find that funny.
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$20,000,000 of funding Sesame Street in Iraq!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14384783/how-America-funded-Iraqi-Sesame-Street-USAID.html
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Yonkers is a dump. Having big races there like the Borgata, Bluechip and the International is equivalent to the NFL having the Super Bowl at a High School field in Peoria. Harness Racing needs to showcase its big races to the most eyeballs possible and the dump known as Yonkers fails miserably.
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The Buffalo Bills got 1.25 Billion from New York State. Tesla has got 38 BILLION in rebates and energy credits, called government welfare Many industries propped up by welfare. I will agree Yonkers is corrupt but that goes back to Faraldo and is a separate issue. And I will agree that the sport would not survive without subsidies. But it does employ a lot of hard working people , many who would have a hard time working in other industries.
PS-it is your sport too as you post on it everyday and it seems to give you importance. You must have friends in the sport but somehow take pleasure if they come to financial demise and find that funny.
The difference is the general public cares about those things. The general public barely know what "those carts" racing is.
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I wish the deportations would include the mini dick whiners who bad mouth probably everything and somehow think that saying the same obvious again and again makes them look smarter.
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Amateur race at M1 outhandled Borgata final.
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$20,000,000 of funding Sesame Street in Iraq!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14384783/how-America-funded-Iraqi-Sesame-Street-USAID.html
And it was stopped, same as this bullshit should be stopped. At lease Sesame Street provides something positive, and doesn't kill horses. tmbz1
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This cock sucker should be barred from this site talks stupid garbage all the time nothing nice to say about any thing but him self.
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I wish the deportations would include the mini dick whiners who bad mouth probably everything and somehow think that saying the same obvious again and again makes them look smarter.
Guys who are TOTAL failures often feel the need to bash that which was beyond their abilities. It's an old story.
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And it was stopped, same as this bullshit should be stopped. At lease Sesame Street provides something positive, and doesn't kill horses. tmbz1
Kill Horses? So to follow your logic through there should be no horses born and no people born? As both are killed.
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Kill Horses? So to follow your logic through there should be no horses born and no people born? As both are killed.
moron
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To be fair, you should mention that over $200k of the purse was 42 nominations at $5000 each.
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To be fair, you should mention that over $200k of the purse was 42 nominations at $5000 each.
All that money was earned in the welfare funded industry. tmbz1
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All that money was earned in the welfare funded industry. tmbz1
Can you at least be somewhat fair and complain about this in every third post you make?
In fiscal year 2023, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) provided approximately $112.8 billion in benefits to an average of 42.1 million participants per month. This equates to an average monthly benefit of about $211.93 per person.
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This is the guy who wasn't even invited to his own daughter's wedding let alone "subsidize it" like any real man would. He had a hard enough time buying burgers from McDonald's. Why do you even pay attention to him? I never understood that. If his kids don't pay any attention to him (or his dentist), why does this site? ngc3
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Cause like it or him or not, he digs up the dirt, tmbz1
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This cock sucker should be barred from this site talks stupid garbage all the time nothing nice to say about any thing but him self.
Exactly he's sooo immature! tmbz1
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This is the guy who wasn't even invited to his own daughter's wedding let alone "subsidize it" like any real man would. He had a hard enough time buying burgers from McDonald's. Why do you even pay attention to him? I never understood that. If his kids don't pay any attention to him (or his dentist), why does this site? ngc3
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Exactly he's sooo immature! tmbz1
Oh no!!! You gonna send me to the corner!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Oh no!!! You gonna send me to the corner!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Clearly one place you were not sent to was your daughters wedding you MUTT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Clearly one place you were not sent to was your daughters wedding you MUTT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Her brother wasn't invited either. Want his number?
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cmon guys , stop using facts , its hurts mr revolutions feelings when he is on his soapbox
in most stake races a high percentage of the purse is from nomination funds and starting fees paid by owners, mere details
aha, and those evil owners might have got some of that payment money from other horses earnings which are corrupted and tainted
and where did those owners get their initial seed money to buy horses, likely from other successful business ventures, , the nerve, maybe it was an airline industry which is evil and polluting the climate, maybe from housing development and they removed trees and maybe even a frog or bunny to build the homes , maybe they owned a casino or gambling site and have encouraged people to become gambling addicts and then drug addicts to forget their gambling addictions
well. i guess the world is not perfect, but lets blame it all on harness racing
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Oh no!!! You gonna send me to the corner!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Just like a 4 yr old would act, yes? 73cv.2 73cv.2
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Clearly one place you were not sent to was your daughters wedding you MUTT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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cmon guys , stop using facts , its hurts mr revolutions feelings when he is on his soapbox
in most stake races a high percentage of the purse is from nomination funds and starting fees paid by owners, mere details
aha, and those evil owners might have got some of that payment money from other horses earnings which are corrupted and tainted
and where did those owners get their initial seed money to buy horses, likely from other successful business ventures, , the nerve, maybe it was an airline industry which is evil and polluting the climate, maybe from housing development and they removed trees and maybe even a frog or bunny to build the homes , maybe they owned a casino or gambling site and have encouraged people to become gambling addicts and then drug addicts to forget their gambling addictions
well. i guess the world is not perfect, but lets blame it all on harness racing
And over 80% of the total purse structure of the INDUSTRY is subsidized. Is there a "mic drop" emoji?
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Can you at least be somewhat fair and complain about this in every third post you make?
In fiscal year 2023, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) provided approximately $112.8 billion in benefits to an average of 42.1 million participants per month. This equates to an average monthly benefit of about $211.93 per person.
You are complaining about poor and elderly people eating. What a guy you must be. Do you complain Trump stealing millions in Trump coin , or the dinner he is hosting to the people who but the most of this garbage or the Emirates starting a 2 billion dollar fund in Trump coin?? How about don Jrs new country club with 500K memberships our Erics hotel deals in the Middle East.
Yet you are upset with poor people getting money to eat. You prefer they would starve.
Sorry to put this in the thread but some people are never grateful for what they have.
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Her brother wasn't invited either. Want his number?
That’s a weird response.
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Guys who are TOTAL failures often feel the need to bash that which was beyond their abilities. It's an old story.
Thank you very much for these words of wisdom that fit POTUS 45/47 on who he really is!!
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Thank you very much for these words of wisdom that fit POTUS 45/47 on who he really is!!
You mean like when Trump puts down your savior the old ancient wrinkly brainless do-nothing air bag?
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You mean like when Trump puts down your savior the old ancient wrinkly brainless do-nothing air bag?
Never said anyone was a “savior”! First things first! You forget to see what 45/47 really is—a “brainless do-nothing air bag”—your words, not mine! Please look at the age and the accomplishments of the individuals you mention ( 45/47) before you make statements! Never too late to learn!
Thanks for posting.
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You are complaining about poor and elderly people eating. What a guy you must be. Do you complain Trump stealing millions in Trump coin , or the dinner he is hosting to the people who but the most of this garbage or the Emirates starting a 2 billion dollar fund in Trump coin?? How about don Jrs new country club with 500K memberships our Erics hotel deals in the Middle East.
Yet you are upset with poor people getting money to eat. You prefer they would starve.
Sorry to put this in the thread but some people are never grateful for what they have.
Elections have consequences, please get help
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You are complaining about poor and elderly people eating. What a guy you must be. Do you complain Trump stealing millions in Trump coin , or the dinner he is hosting to the people who but the most of this garbage or the Emirates starting a 2 billion dollar fund in Trump coin?? How about don Jrs new country club with 500K memberships our Erics hotel deals in the Middle East.
Yet you are upset with poor people getting money to eat. You prefer they would starve.
Sorry to put this in the thread but some people are never grateful for what they have.
You are probably complaining about this too? There’s no way 42 million people in this country need welfare. Cut the fraud so the people that really need it get more.
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Soundbite of the year!!!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lf9g76-1Iaw?feature=share
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Elections have consequences, please get help
100% correct!
Please look at the USA Today!
All the entire works knows was that some people don’t complain about a “RIGGED” and “STOLEN” election!
Also, how many people DIED due to the insurrection if 1/6/21??
Also the property that was destroyed as well as the injuries that happened as well!!
Please don’t forget these important facts!
Please read and learn!! It’s not to late to be a better human being and accept the truth of the matters at hand!
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100% correct!
Please look at the USA Today!
All the entire works knows was that some people don’t complain about a “RIGGED” and “STOLEN” election!
Also, how many people DIED due to the insurrection if 1/6/21??
Also the property that was destroyed as well as the injuries that happened as well!!
Please don’t forget these important facts!
Please read and learn!! It’s not to late to be a better human being and accept the truth of the matters at hand!
How many innocent Americans have been killed, robbed and raped by the invasion at the border that the last President authorized? What has more consequences for this country’s future?
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100% correct!
Please look at the USA Today!
All the entire works knows was that some people don’t complain about a “RIGGED” and “STOLEN” election!
Also, how many people DIED due to the insurrection if 1/6/21??
Also the property that was destroyed as well as the injuries that happened as well!!
Please don’t forget these important facts!
Please read and learn!! It’s not to late to be a better human being and accept the truth of the matters at hand!
How many people were injured and died in the protests in the summer of love aka the defund the police riots from the lefties?
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It's amazing that the lefties blame all ills on the previous administration but hold a conservative responsible for things after only 100 days of their administration.
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It's amazing that the lefties blame all ills on the previous administration but hold a conservative responsible for things after only 100 days of their administration.
Trump is not conservative period He doesnt believe in free trade or the rule of law. He is corrupt to the bone. He loves Russia. He is an autocrat who abducts people he guesses may be gang members off the street to foreign gulags. His admin is saying it wants to suspend all due process. He targets law firms, chris krebs anyone who is against him. He dines with neo nazis and pardoned all types of crypto folk who stole and J6 thugs and racists. He sides with cops accept when it came to Ashley Babbitt who instead had the government give her family 30 million dollars. Which one of these is conservative??
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Trump is not conservative period He doesnt believe in free trade or the rule of law. He is corrupt to the bone. He loves Russia. He is an autocrat who abducts people he guesses may be gang members off the street to foreign gulags. His admin is saying it wants to suspend all due process. He targets law firms, chris krebs anyone who is against him. He dines with neo nazis and pardoned all types of crypto folk who stole and J6 thugs and racists. He sides with cops accept when it came to Ashley Babbitt who instead had the government give her family 30 million dollars. Which one of these is conservative??
Such an observative fellow, you see things in fine detail but fail to see what was in front of your eyes.
The Biden crime family taking millions in bribes from Americas biggest enemies ie China, Russia, Ukraine etc.
If you search history you will find that until the 20th century America survived on tariffs alone, no federal income tax, in your eyes all the presidents before 1913 were against free trade including, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc
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some of these trainers are as bad as the cartels. instead of giving dope to humans they give it an innocent animal who has no voice. they do it for monetary gain. because they are uneducated and csant do much else.
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Such an observative fellow, you see things in fine detail but fail to see what was in front of your eyes.
The Biden crime family taking millions in bribes from Americas biggest enemies ie China, Russia, Ukraine etc.
If you search history you will find that until the 20th century America survived on tariffs alone, no federal income tax, in your eyes all the presidents before 1913 were against free trade including, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc
Trump just was given a 747 from Qatar today. A freaking 747 for his own personal use after he is done as President. Do you know that the UAE bought Trump crypto coin and funneled him another 75 million in commission for doing nothing. I’d you buy the most Trump coin(bribe) to gain access to Mar-A-Lago or are you buying the 500K to join Don Jrs private club. Maybe you are helping Eric Trump fund a billion dollar hotel in DUbai to gain access. But, but, Biden says the guy who doesn’t want Trump to be held accountable for anything. So WTF do you call Trumps stealing cult member not to mention the abductions and the dinners with neo nazis like the pardoned proud boys dining at Mar - A -Largo. Do dine or want to dine with Neo Nazis??
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some of these trainers are as bad as the cartels. instead of giving dope to humans they give it an innocent animal who has no voice. they do it for monetary gain. because they are uneducated and csant do much else.
True and never forget the same group of owners who chase them. Others like myself try to find their horses homes and retires those that cannot do anymore. Mike thinks he is the only one who cares and makes sure to tell you everyday of his life about it.
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Trump just was given a 747 from Qatar today. A freaking 747 for his own personal use after he is done as President. Do you know that the UAE bought Trump crypto coin and funneled him another 75 million in commission for doing nothing. I’d you buy the most Trump coin(bribe) to gain access to Mar-A-Lago or are you buying the 500K to join Don Jrs private club. Maybe you are helping Eric Trump fund a billion dollar hotel in DUbai to gain access. But, but, Biden says the guy who doesn’t want Trump to be held accountable for anything. So WTF do you call Trumps stealing cult member not to mention the abductions and the dinners with neo nazis like the pardoned proud boys dining at Mar - A -Largo. Do dine or want to dine with Neo Nazis??
He also got the Saudi’s to pump more oil which they wouldn’t do for Biden. Gas prices going down for ALL Americans!!! I’ll take the trade off.
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Trump just was given a 747 from Qatar today. A freaking 747 for his own personal use after he is done as President. Do you know that the UAE bought Trump crypto coin and funneled him another 75 million in commission for doing nothing. I’d you buy the most Trump coin(bribe) to gain access to Mar-A-Lago or are you buying the 500K to join Don Jrs private club. Maybe you are helping Eric Trump fund a billion dollar hotel in DUbai to gain access. But, but, Biden says the guy who doesn’t want Trump to be held accountable for anything. So WTF do you call Trumps stealing cult member not to mention the abductions and the dinners with neo nazis like the pardoned proud boys dining at Mar - A -Largo. Do dine or want to dine with Neo Nazis??
You left out the fact that Trump sent that real estate guy to Russia to negotiate the war with no advisors or even a translator. He gets the translation through Putin’s translator. Meanwhile, Putin has a bunch of advisors in the meeting. Are they negotiating a trump hotel in Moscow?
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Trump just was given a 747 from Qatar today. A freaking 747 for his own personal use after he is done as President. Do you know that the UAE bought Trump crypto coin and funneled him another 75 million in commission for doing nothing. I’d you buy the most Trump coin(bribe) to gain access to Mar-A-Lago or are you buying the 500K to join Don Jrs private club. Maybe you are helping Eric Trump fund a billion dollar hotel in DUbai to gain access. But, but, Biden says the guy who doesn’t want Trump to be held accountable for anything. So WTF do you call Trumps stealing cult member not to mention the abductions and the dinners with neo nazis like the pardoned proud boys dining at Mar - A -Largo. Do dine or want to dine with Neo Nazis??
Joe Biden pardoned his whole family for the entire decade preceding his leaving office as president, enough said.
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You left out the fact that Trump sent that real estate guy to Russia to negotiate the war with no advisors or even a translator. He gets the translation through Putin’s translator. Meanwhile, Putin has a bunch of advisors in the meeting. Are they negotiating a trump hotel in Moscow?
You guys are still believing the spoon fed narrative about Russia from the communist media while Biden and his family were taking millions from Russia in bribes while Joe Biden was serving as vice president?
Naive with a capital N.
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You guys are still believing the spoon fed narrative about Russia from the communist media while Biden and his family were taking millions from Russia in bribes while Joe Biden was serving as vice president?
Naive with a capital N.
Proof??? Trump has stolen everything I posted because he said so himself.
Bad don’t be stupid at why he had no choice to pardon given Trumps fascist retribution tour, see Chris Krebs. But in your world Ashley Babbitt family got 30 million because she was “murdered” by the capital police. After all she would have been a hostage otherwise, right? Fool.
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Trump just was given a 747 from Qatar today. A freaking 747 for his own personal use after he is done as President. Do you know that the UAE bought Trump crypto coin and funneled him another 75 million in commission for doing nothing. I’d you buy the most Trump coin(bribe) to gain access to Mar-A-Lago or are you buying the 500K to join Don Jrs private club. Maybe you are helping Eric Trump fund a billion dollar hotel in DUbai to gain access. But, but, Biden says the guy who doesn’t want Trump to be held accountable for anything. So WTF do you call Trumps stealing cult member not to mention the abductions and the dinners with neo nazis like the pardoned proud boys dining at Mar - A -Largo. Do dine or want to dine with Neo Nazis??
When this is proven to be untrue like Russia collusion will we hear an apology? TDS has you believing everything you read. Please go get some help.
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Joe Biden pardoned his whole family for the entire decade preceding his leaving office as president, enough said.
Really??
What a “piss poor” response!
Look at “all the best” people DJT pardoned!
And the ones were pardoned were a lot worse individuals than Biden and his people!
Please read and learn! It’s never too late to be a better person too!
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It's amazing that the lefties blame all ills on the previous administration but hold a conservative responsible for things after only 100 days of their administration.
Please look at the previous administration before Biden!
Enough said!!
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Trump is not conservative period He doesnt believe in free trade or the rule of law. He is corrupt to the bone. He loves Russia. He is an autocrat who abducts people he guesses may be gang members off the street to foreign gulags. His admin is saying it wants to suspend all due process. He targets law firms, chris krebs anyone who is against him. He dines with neo nazis and pardoned all types of crypto folk who stole and J6 thugs and racists. He sides with cops accept when it came to Ashley Babbitt who instead had the government give her family 30 million dollars. Which one of these is conservative??
And now everyone knows the rest of the story!
FYI, people see what they want to see especially 1/6/21!
Sad, isn’t it!
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kantseeback, I told you not to debate these folks. You a just "pissing in the wind". Just sit back and watch things get better as the months go in. Big news this week as CNN has reported a "big agreement" coming from the talks with China this week.
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kantseeback, I told you not to debate these folks. You a just "pissing in the wind". Just sit back and watch things get better as the months go in. Big news this week as CNN has reported a "big agreement" coming from the talks with China this week.
Talking about "pissing in the wind"! Look who just made this statement here!
Are you, his father? Really now? He's a big boy who can make his own decisions in life!
We all are allowed to deal with actions as we see fit, especially using blogs to discuss issues, and events that occur in the real world we live in. We can agree with each other; we can disagree with each other.
All that we see are right wingers who can't handle reality!
FYI, you're a right winger who listen to all news posted in the world today. Maybe other right wingers can read, watch. and learn from you too!
I'm just going to remind you of something. Look at the career choice you made (I could post it here, but I won't) and take a good long look at the world around you. You can actually sleep well with what Trump and the 'clan' have done in the past, currently in the present, and what they plan to do in the future! Look at the previous POTUS before Biden and the problems he caused!
All we see here is hypocrisy with the right wing! Do as I say, not as I do! Look where we currently are today because of this!
Time to change some old school attitude and beliefs and be a better person become some of us disagree on the issues of today!
We can agree to disagree on what is happening in the world!
FYI, this is the
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When this is proven to be untrue like Russia collusion will we hear an apology? TDS has you believing everything you read. Please go get some help.
Here we go again--there is no such thing as TDS! How many times have I posted this here on horseplop!
TDS is an 'EXCUSE' that the right wing uses when they don't like what others say about him! Again, Trump causes his own problems and people have a right to critique, laugh at him, mock him, et al. Self-inflicted by his own actions! Sad, but true! Please deal with it!
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Here we go again--there is no such thing as TDS! How many times have I posted this here on horseplop!
TDS is an 'EXCUSE' that the right wing uses when they don't like what others say about him! Again, Trump causes his own problems and people have a right to critique, laugh at him, mock him, et al. Self-inflicted by his own actions! Sad, but true! Please deal with it!
If you don’t have TDS give him complete credit for shutting the border down without and additional legislation or funds.
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If you don’t have TDS give him complete credit for shutting the border down without and additional legislation or funds.
Sorry, he'll get complete credit when he does everything morally, ethically, and legally correct!
FYI, there is no sch thing as TDS! You've been told this numerous times! Do you comprehend and understand English!!
Thanx for posting,
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You guys are still believing the spoon fed narrative about Russia from the communist media while Biden and his family were taking millions from Russia in bribes while Joe Biden was serving as vice president?
Naive with a capital N.
Rather than reading your drivel, I actually get the facts straight from the horse’s mouth:
https://njjewishnews.timesofisrael.com/chess-thinks-but-poker-bluffs/
The part I mentioned:
“We know that Trump’s special envoy, Steve Witkoff, went to Russia at least four times in the last 100 days. We know that every time he was there, he spent more time with Putin. He was with Putin in Moscow. He was with Putin in Saint Petersburg. He has spent hours with him.
“But not only is it noticeable that Witkoff did not get any results, it is also clear to every professional how unprofessionally he is conducting the negotiation.”
Mr. Witkoff meets alone with Putin, Mr. Smukler said. To be more accurate, Putin is not alone. Mr. Witkoff sits unaccompanied at his side of the table. “He doesn’t even have a translator,” Mr. Smukler said. “He relies entirely on Putin’s translators.
“I don’t understand how he can conduct the most sensitive issue for the postwar world, negotiations to stop the bloodiest conflict since World War II, a conflict that possibly could lead to World War III, not only without military or professional experts, but even without his own interpreter.
“Using only the interpreter provided by the Russian side looks ridiculous to professional diplomats. Nobody knows what’s going on. Nobody knows on what terms Witkoff is discussing this with Putin.”
This is wrong for many reasons, Mr. Smukler said. For one, “historians will have to judge this absolutely historic moment in Western civilization based on Witkoff’s memories and the Russians’ notes and minutes.”
While Mr. Witkoff’s side of the table is unpeopled, Putin’s is not. At the last meeting — three and a half hours in Saint Petersburg — “Putin had not only translators and technical personnel but also the highest-level professional experts with him.”
One was Yuri Ushakov, “Putin’s advisor on foreign affairs, who was Russia’s ambassador to the United States for many years. He is considered one of Russia’s most professional diplomats.
“On the other side of Putin is Kirill Dmitriev. He’s close to Putin’s family; he spent many years in the United States, and graduated from Stanford and Harvard Business School. Putin chose him to be there because he understands American psychology.” He’s only 50, and represents a new generation of Russian leadership, Mr. Smukler added.
Mr. Witkoff, on the other hand, is not a professional diplomat. He’s a very successful New York real estate developer, who grew up as a nice Jewish boy in Roslyn Heights, on Long Island.
“It never happened like this in the history of Russia/U.S. relations,” a flabbergasted Mr. Smukler said. “No one could have imagined it, negotiations between senior officials and a U.S. envoy who doesn’t have a military or diplomatic experience, doesn’t have experts with him, and doesn’t even have a translator. Witkoff has zero experience in political life. His expertise is in development in construction.
“How could this person — this ordinary successful American Jewish businessman — discuss the future of peace in Europe, and the future of the Ukrainian people, with such limited knowledge of the subject? And especially when he’s speaking with Putin, who intellectually is five levels up from Witkoff? Who was trained by the KGB?
This grainy screenshot shows Vladimir Putin greeting Steve Witkoff.
“And Ushakov spent his entire life in U.S./Russia relations. He grew up from being an ordinary diplomat to being the personal advisor to the president. He is 78 years old, and he’s spent at least 52 years as a career diplomat at the highest level.
“Dmitriev is not only an expert in economy but has a special relationship with Putin’s family, as well as his deep understanding of U.S. life. That’s why he’s on the other side of the table.”
Watching Mr. Witkoff, “it seems to me that he really enjoys being there, with Putin,” Mr. Smukler said. He’s made public statements about how the situation that led to Russia’s invasion is “complicated” — it is in fact straightforward; Russia invaded its sovereign neighbor. He’s also said that “I don’t regard Putin as a bad guy.”
Mr. Smukler can think of an explanation for the situation. “It could mean that the administration doesn’t want anybody in the United States to know the details of the conversations and the negotiations. Witkoff could be only a mailman, who hopefully is taking notes.
“But interestingly, when I saw several minutes of the conversation between Witkoff and Putin on Russian TV, I didn’t see even a notepad in front of him.
“I think he goes there alone because Trump doesn’t want anybody in the United States except him to know what Witkoff says and what Putin says. Maybe he’ll also tell the Security Council, but it seems to me that they don’t want anybody else to know what’s being said.”
That’s because Putin and Witkoff — and by extension Trump — are on the same side, Mr. Smukler suggests. “They’re on Russia’s side. They are so afraid that the information will leak to Ukrainians, and also that European leaders will learn the details of the talks. They are mostly thinking about the interests of the Russians, instead of the Ukrainians or the Europeans.
“There is no other explanation for why Witkoff goes there alone.”
Mr. Smukler’s spent many hours watching videos of Putin’s interviews over the years, he said, and he’s learned what to look for in the Russian leader’s expression and body language. “We were trained to do that during Soviet times, he said. “Putin knows perfectly well how to hide his emotions.” Mr. Witkoff’s another story. “Witkoff definitely wasn’t trained. When you see the footage on the Russian channels, you can see how Witkoff enjoys the moment. When you see how he looks at Putin, you can see that he’s thrilled to be there, and to negotiate with him.
“Witkoff trusts Putin, and Trump trusts Witkoff.”
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Posting further on this thread would be an exercise in futility.
I have learned there are many people here with TDS and some of them are in denial.
You must first admit you have a problem if you ever hope to conquer it.
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Was Putin at The Borgata? ;D
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Posting further on this thread would be an exercise in futility.
I have learned there are many people here with TDS and some of them are in denial.
You must first admit you have a problem if you ever hope to conquer it.
I notice that when people post facts, you always refuse to address the fact, and instead bring up TDS.
If you bothered to read what I posted, you’ll notice I didn’t give an opinion, just facts.
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Posting further on this thread would be an exercise in futility.
I have learned there are many people here with TDS and some of them are in denial.
You must first admit you have a problem if you ever hope to conquer it.
What's the matter?
Listening to your daddy?
You don't like when people double and triple down do you!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TDS! You've been told this repeatedly here!
Since there is no TDS, there is no denial, simple explanation, isn't it!
The truth hurts, doesn't it!
Awaiting your response!
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kantseeback, you are finally getting the point. It just ain't worth it. The stress caused by this political bantering will never change any minds. I've had dozens of private messages on this site who feel the same way, Just enjoy life. I don't argue with these folks. It accomplishes nothing. Time will truly tell how things will work out. I'm off to a midnight poker game.
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This is the guy who wasn't even invited to his own daughter's wedding let alone "subsidize it" like any real man would. He had a hard enough time buying burgers from McDonald's. Why do you even pay attention to him? I never understood that. If his kids don't pay any attention to him (or his dentist), why does this site? ngc3
What a fcking loser, she was saying he's such a disgrace.
Her husbands family obv want nothing to do with him.
He isn't welcomed anywhere, the welfare property he lives at- I'm sure they just tolerate him.
Daughters family don't want to have anything to do with him, that's sad but when you do nothing your whole life...
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What a fcking loser, she was saying he's such a disgrace.
Her husbands family obv want nothing to do with him.
He isn't welcomed anywhere, the welfare property he lives at- I'm sure they just tolerate him.
Daughters family don't want to have anything to do with him, that's sad but when you do nothing your whole life...
Who was my ex's first husband? Whose kid did I raise before my kids were born??? Let's start there.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Who was my ex's first husband? Whose kid did I raise before my kids were born??? Let's start there.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
WHO CARES YOU MUTT ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOUR FAMILY DOES NOT LIKE YOU
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WHO CARES YOU MUTT ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOUR FAMILY DOES NOT LIKE YOU
Ok. And that means what? You still haven't answered the question. BTW like I said, why wasn't my son invited who actually lives in the same house? Type type type. Tomorrow I'll be calling Albany to make my statement. I also have another Schnittker video to send to NYS Gaming of yet ANOTHER lame horse. So my point once again is, the family shit? I couldn't care less. Haven't for the last three years, don't now. And all your typing won't stop what you're really worried about. Having to get jobs that don't involve a fucking shavings fork. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Back to who was my ex's first husband....you say you're IN THE KNOW....SAY IT!!! So I can have A LOT OF FUN WITH IT. And post who she works for right now too.
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Ok. And that means what? You still haven't answered the question. BTW like I said, why wasn't my son invited who actually lives in the same house? Type type type. Tomorrow I'll be calling Albany to make my statement. I also have another Schnittker video to send to NYS Gaming of yet ANOTHER lame horse. So my point once again is, the family shit? I couldn't care less. Haven't for the last three years, don't now. And all your typing won't stop what you're really worried about. Having to get jobs that don't involve a fucking shavings fork. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Back to who was my ex's first husband....you say you're IN THE KNOW....SAY IT!!! So I can have A LOT OF FUN WITH IT. And post who she works for right now too.
Your family has asked me to not allow you to see any pictures from when they got married and you were not there. In addition they asked that I do not discuss anything about them with you. Unlike you I respect their wishes you rotten MUTT. I owe you absolutely nothing never forget that. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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kantseeback, you are finally getting the point. It just ain't worth it. The stress caused by this political bantering will never change any minds. I've had dozens of private messages on this site who feel the same way, Just enjoy life. I don't argue with these folks. It accomplishes nothing. Time will truly tell how things will work out. I'm off to a midnight poker game.
Why? What stress? People like to state their opinions and enjoy the bantering. The difference is some are more stubborn and will not except the truth in certain matters, even if it is black and white. Again, don't blame others because of your own shortcomings. I admit I have shortcomings, but I won't let people "BULLY" and 'INTIMIDATE' me whether it is here horseplop, and/or the real world, and anywhere else in between. I enjoy my life. I do my things, take care of business and have fun!
Let's hope that things come out well in the end. Right now, we are far from it and things are much worse and getting much worse, instead of getting better!
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Your family has asked me to not allow you to see any pictures from when they got married and you were not there. In addition they asked that I do not discuss anything about them with you. Unlike you I respect their wishes you rotten MUTT. I owe you absolutely nothing never forget that. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Getting upset are ya? I'm not. BTW, I'm old school Italian. You know what that means? My daughter is an adult and made her choice. Doesn't mean I'm on board. Get it??? And remember they didn't want my son there either. Who BTW was baptised Catholic unlike his sister that her mother wouldn't ALLOW it. You can ask her all about that. Now back to her mother. Who knocked her up with her first kid I raised? Why are you so hesitant to see full transparency. I made a 2 hour video of it ya know. The middle part where the State Police called LIVE ON YOUTUBE to tell me their complaints were bullshit is PRICELESS!!!! ngc3
https://youtube.com/live/scKqgQV38yE?feature=share
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This cock sucker should be barred from this site talks stupid garbage all the time nothing nice to say about any thing but him self.
So bar the only transparent poster who says what he says as himself and not a chicken shit cunt like you? BTW, when are you coming to kick my head in!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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So bar the only transparent poster who says what he says as himself and not a chicken shit cunt like you? BTW, when are you coming to kick my head in!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Who hurt you?
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Sorry, he'll get complete credit when he does everything morally, ethically, and legally correct!
FYI, there is no sch thing as TDS! You've been told this numerous times! Do you comprehend and understand English!!
Thanx for posting,
No credit for this either? Get help for your TDS than.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-says-release-american-israeli-073629378.html
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Clearly one place you were not sent to was your daughters wedding you MUTT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Can you try to imagine how much of a complete p.o.s individual, not being invited to daughters wedding?
(smartest decision she made, you know he would try to make it about himself + the inlaws have always just uncomfortably laugh & shake their heads).
"I love you scm, I just don't think you should come, there are going to be successful people there & there is nowhere to park your shopping cart"
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In all seriousness, this has gone too far. If Mike decided to go public, come clean, whatever you want to call it, about him, his daughter, family, whatever-----that's his choice. That doesn't give anyone the right to start bringing family into this whole mess. It doesn't matter how much of a jerk you may think he is, how poorly you may think he behaves, or how sick you may feel he is-----it has nothing to do with that. Whatever is going on with or between him and his daughter, wedding, communion, college graduation, whatever. Even if Mike brought it up. That should not be thrown back in his face. Make it personal if you choose, but the family thing should be off limits. Thank you.
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No credit for this either? Get help for your TDS than.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-says-release-american-israeli-073629378.html
WOW, perhaps 1 if the “few” good things he had done in his “entire life”! Do all the ‘anti-trumpers’ have to “kiss the ring and his ass” over this?
How many times has he royally screw up-in his personal life, business life, and his political life?
Like the world we live in today, 1 “good thing” doesn’t live out all the ‘bad things’ people do!
Thanks for posting.
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In all seriousness, this has gone too far. If Mike decided to go public, come clean, whatever you want to call it, about him, his daughter, family, whatever-----that's his choice. That doesn't give anyone the right to start bringing family into this whole mess. It doesn't matter how much of a jerk you may think he is, how poorly you may think he behaves, or how sick you may feel he is-----it has nothing to do with that. Whatever is going on with or between him and his daughter, wedding, communion, college graduation, whatever. Even if Mike brought it up. That should not be thrown back in his face. Make it personal if you choose, but the family thing should be off limits. Thank you.
Unfortunately people don’t care about certain things anymore. Moral, and ethical just don’t exist anymore. Welcome to 2025 and the world we live in today!
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In all seriousness, this has gone too far. If Mike decided to go public, come clean, whatever you want to call it, about him, his daughter, family, whatever-----that's his choice. That doesn't give anyone the right to start bringing family into this whole mess. It doesn't matter how much of a jerk you may think he is, how poorly you may think he behaves, or how sick you may feel he is-----it has nothing to do with that. Whatever is going on with or between him and his daughter, wedding, communion, college graduation, whatever. Even if Mike brought it up. That should not be thrown back in his face. Make it personal if you choose, but the family thing should be off limits. Thank you.
Well we know that's not gonna happen, when there are cowards who can hide there are no lines. But do you see that stopping me? And why should I be obligated or motivated to have to tell ME story of MY family openly here, yet the cowards don't? Difference is, I have and I never hide anything. Am I the only person to split with my wife? Kids have to suffer for it? IN HARNESS RACING???? Really? The reason they won't talk is these people have NO ROOM TO JUDGE when it comes to family, wives, kids, fucking everyone that breathes. You say should I tell the story, well I did. Last week in a Livestream that even included a call from the NYS Police regarding the situation. AND that did not go well for the person behind it crying wolf once again. Here's the link:
https://youtube.com/live/scKqgQV38yE?feature=share
Secondly, whether I respond to these personal attacks that have been going on for two years, has it stopped me? There's one reason they want me stopped, they're guilty. And at the same time these same jackasses have the audacity to complain about other crooks here! ngc3 Horseplop means nothing in the real world. What I'm doing on the outside is what scares these cowards here the most. You think anyone outside the industry reads Horseplop??? Notice that for the most part I never spoke about my ex or kids? Do I have to? Show me who else here has. For my credibility to anonymous cowards? Again, anywhere I go on the outside not once has or does my personal life come up or even mentioned other than conversations with people I'm closer to. But now since all this has come to a head. My daughter is now a woman who was my shadow. Have any of you asked my ex why I left? Or...HAD TO LEAVE? It's all in that video. My daughter wanted none of the nonsense at her "wedding". I say it like that because it was exchanging vows so she could go live on base in Colorado with her husband. How come nobody mentions that my son who lives in the same house wasn't invited either? And, still none of this bothers me in the least, especially here. All the typing won't stop what Steve Jones will have to answer to very soon. Or anything else I pursue. Fred Bourgault will still be sentenced. You people will STILL BE RACING AGAINST PER ENGBLOM! ngc3 I asked a couple of my most loyal trolls last night to post the real story about my ex last night. They RAN. I said why don't you post who she was married to before me. "this is all in the video btw". Or, like everything else here the truth need not apply. Bottom line is, none of you will stop me from doing as I please. All those threats, NOTHING. And there never will be any backing up what is said here. Just from me, and that's what drives most people here crazy. In the mean time.....keep trying to stop me! ngc3