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General Category => Nostalgia => Topic started by: Blue Marlin on May 09, 2025, 12:16:17 AM
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Was reading an old post from 2023. “ who was a trainer/ driver to make over $100,000 in % from one race.” One name came to mind. It was Bill Haughton. The race was the 2 million dollar Woodrow Wilson Pace. The horse was Mackenzie Alamhurst. I believe it was 1981 or 1982. Mr. Haughton won the richest race ever in harness or flat racing at the time and Mr. Haughton was the trainer/driver. The winner share was one million plus so 5% training and 5% driving fee is $ 100,000.
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Del Insko/Land Grant
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Was reading an old post from 2023. “ who was a trainer/ driver to make over $100,000 in % from one race.” One name came to mind. It was Bill Haughton. The race was the 2 million dollar Woodrow Wilson Pace. The horse was Mackenzie Alamhurst. I believe it was 1981 or 1982. Mr. Haughton won the richest race ever in harness or flat racing at the time and Mr. Haughton was the trainer/driver. The winner share was one million plus so 5% training and 5% driving fee is $ 100,000.
1980 Woodrow Wilson $2,110,000 Land Grant Del Insko tr/dr
1981 Woodrow Wilson $1,760,000 Mckinzie Almahurst Haughton tr/dr
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Meadow Ford. I stand corrected. You are right Del Indio was the trainer/driver to get a $100,000. Pay day. I wish more people would post some good memories on here. I just joined “horseplop”. Well I can’t believe all the negativity with the active posts. It appears that certain people are so hateful. They are so angry. What happened to all one big family. No matter what backside anywhere. Most everyone got along. Helped each other. Traveling the Grand Circuit for years going track to track. Horseman stuck together and helped each other out. More positive. For instance post something on two Free for all pacers this week that are coming back “Ken Hanover” & “Musketeer Hanover” both won in 1:48 at two different tracks. Hopefully they compete in some FFA events. Anyway I am going to be posting some Triva history questions this week and see if there is interest in some positive replies. And yes I stand to be corrected sometimes. It’s called Oldhimers.
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Blue Marlin,
Thank You for your posts.
I agree 100% with you!
Looking forward to your triva questions.
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Fortune Teller…Eldon Harner
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Fortune Teller…Eldon Harner
Yes Old Guy Fortune Teller with Eldon Harner did make over a million, but the question was "in one race".
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He won the Woodrow Wilson-with a purse over $ 2,ooo,ooo I'm pretty sure.
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He won the Woodrow Wilson-with a purse over $ 2,ooo,ooo I'm pretty sure.
1982 Woodrow Wilson Fortune Teller $1,957,500
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Just for fun and not looking it up.
Witch of the three above mentioned horses made the most money lifetime?
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I believe Eldon’s Governor Skipper colt Fortune Teller made the most $.. I think he was the Gov’s highest money earner. I thinking back to remembering sales catalog’s
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I remember Governor Skipper training at the Pinehurst harness track in NC. Buck Norris trained the colt and I believe John Chapman drove him. Actually I was just talking to Scott Norris earlier ( Buck’s son ). One memory after another. Thanks Meadow Ford for the question!!!!!
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I remember Governor Skipper training at the Pinehurst harness track in NC. Buck Norris trained the colt and I believe John Chapman drove him. Actually I was just talking to Scott Norris earlier ( Buck’s son ). One memory after another. Thanks Meadow Ford for the question!!!!!
AH Pinehurst
Layed over there for a couple days one fall in the early 70's.
Shipping PA. to Pompano.
They put us in an old barn that had been empty all summer.
All I can remember were the giant rat holes in every stall.
I still get "the willies" thinking about them.
Del Cameron put me to work jogging and training a set.
Glad to get away from the rats. and I aint going back!
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AH Pinehurst
Layed over there for a couple days one fall in the early 70's.
Shipping PA. to Pompano.
They put us in an old barn that had been empty all summer.
All I can remember were the giant rat holes in every stall.
I still get "the willies" thinking about them.
Del Cameron put me to work jogging and training a set.
Glad to get away from the rats. and I aint going back
Well Meadow Ford. I would hate the rats also. No matter where they are !!!!! Believe me Pinehurst is a nice place now. Most all the barns have been upgraded as well as most all the tack rooms. I have been training there 19 years and I have never seen a rat there. Occasionally a few mice. The Village of Pinehurst took it over in the early 90’s. They have professional services that take care of any issues. The mile clay track was re-surfaced and calibrated. The half mile track will be totally resurfaced this summer and the sand 5/8 jog track is in great shape. All new paddocks. Small but all have been replaced.We have a great matinee day which is the first Saturday in April. We have 2,500 - 4,000 people attend. Stop by and visit. I’m sure you will enjoy your visit
AH Pinehurst
Layed over there for a couple days one fall in the early 70's.
Shipping PA. to Pompano.
They put us in an old barn that had been empty all summer.
All I can remember were the giant rat holes in every stall.
I still get "the willies" thinking about them.
Del Cameron put me to work jogging and training a set.
Glad to get away from the rats. and I aint going back!
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Here is one you can't lookup anywhere.
Peter Haughton
16 years old
Driving at Troy PA. county fair.
Mother was there.
Dad not there.
Witch one of the many "Geen Wave" 2nd trainers was the groom that day for young Mr. Haughton?
Hint
He had a fruit for a nick name.
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Okay. Apples Thomas. Great question
Logging off. Gotta race one tomorrow
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Here is one you can't lookup anywhere.
Peter Haughton
16 years old
Driving at Troy PA. county fair.
Mother was there.
Dad not there.
Witch one of the many "Geen Wave" 2nd trainers was the groom that day for young Mr. Haughton?
Hint
He had a fruit for a nick name.
The only 2 old time horsemen I remember having a fruit nickname was Norman Fluet, and Andy Ray Miller, fruitcake.
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here is a relatively easy one......
who was the only horse to go off lower odds when he faced Niatross?
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Whamo trained and driven by Charlie Clark. Both Niatross and Whamo were undefeated going into the Woodrow
Wilson elimination. Niatross won with Denali 2nd, and Whamo 3rd.
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Whamo trained and driven by Charlie Clark. Both Niatross and Whamo were undefeated going into the Woodrow
Wilson elimination. Niatross won with Denali 2nd, and Whamo 3rd.
Excellent tmbz1
Niatross holds an obscure record of being the horse who was barred from the win pool the most--i believe it was 7 or 8 times
they don't bar any win pools anymore
I saw Niatross live and in person at Liberty Bell and Brandywine as a teenager
I had cold exactas with Storm Damage to finish 2nd both times and both times Trenton Time completed the exacta
the good ol days
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I was at Saratoga Raceway the day Niatross went over the hub rail. There was no betting on that race, but there
was a daily double offered with the previous race. I seem to recall that the winner of that previous race paid $12.00
or so, the double with Niatross was only paying $8.00. The winner Trenton Time would have been 2nd choice had
win betting been offered. The double with the $12.00 winner, and Trenton Time returned something like $190.00.
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I was at Saratoga Raceway the day Niatross went over the hub rail. There was no betting on that race, but there
was a daily double offered with the previous race. I seem to recall that the winner of that previous race paid $12.00
or so, the double with Niatross was only paying $8.00. The winner Trenton Time would have been 2nd choice had
win betting been offered. The double with the $12.00 winner, and Trenton Time returned something like $190.00.
wow--great story
I have an Aunt who lives in Ballston Spa-she was the Personnel Director at the harness track for years and she was there that day-the crowd was in dis-belief
apparently Niatross was pretty sick and had never seen the whip before-amazing he escaped with only scrapes and scratches
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Here is one you can't lookup anywhere.
Peter Haughton
16 years old
Driving at Troy PA. county fair.
Mother was there.
Dad not there.
Witch one of the many "Geen Wave" 2nd trainers was the groom that day for young Mr. Haughton?
Hint
He had a fruit for a nick name.
Apples Thomas
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here are some fond memories from my late teens when you have the time to watch
https://youtu.be/NyfEvKQd9Vg?si=Y-szAhM56WnWODiR
https://youtu.be/NjaLUhzHcNY?si=ML-V5MkhgJ2HSYZn
https://youtu.be/ffB8Ai_nGVw?si=vf9p_kykF_nOdcWM
https://youtu.be/GepLOZuA_tk?si=tT4MdenWxa_Yz3Ur
https://youtu.be/P66syTH0lLQ?si=wmVC-njlQ_QXjlSL