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Title: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 07, 2025, 09:32:18 PM
harness racing is probably the most crooked business in the world.
everyone may think Petrelli is crazy. i do as well, but he isnt wrong. i would say he is more often right than wrong and its not even close.

there have always been different rules for different people. depending on who you are judges may turn their heads to violations. certain people may get lighter penalties. we have all seen it first hand.

husband gets a positive so then they put their wife down as trainer. business goes on as usual. there are no reprecusions. racing commisions at each state allow it to continue to happen.

you have vets pre racing horses on race day. maybe early in the day or even while giving lasix.
vets will tube your horse on race day.

you have drivers and trainers betting against their own horses. maybe some get envelopes.

you have adult men predatorizing under age girls. except simon allard he like boys.

you have horse killers racing every night.

people lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis.

i would really like to turn on 60 minutes one sunday and see all the dirty laundry aired out.

so few regular people follow or even know what harness racing is thats how this all keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
until this gets real public and regular people with authority see it and figure it out its all going down.

i may not agree with how petrelli does it but what other way is there at this point? and he isnt wrong.
 what are people afraid of? i can only hope law enforcement has their eyes on the industry and will start locking people up. we will see if anyone has a backbone.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 07, 2025, 09:48:09 PM
harness racing is probably the most crooked business in the world.
everyone may think Petrelli is crazy. i do as well, but he isnt wrong. i would say he is more often right than wrong and its not even close.

there have always been different rules for different people. depending on who you are judges may turn their heads to violations. certain people may get lighter penalties. we have all seen it first hand.

husband gets a positive so then they put their wife down as trainer. business goes on as usual. there are no reprecusions. racing commisions at each state allow it to continue to happen.

you have vets pre racing horses on race day. maybe early in the day or even while giving lasix.
vets will tube your horse on race day.

you have drivers and trainers betting against their own horses. maybe some get envelopes.

you have adult men predatorizing under age girls. except simon allard he like boys.

you have horse killers racing every night.

people lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis.

i would really like to turn on 60 minutes one sunday and see all the dirty laundry aired out.

so few regular people follow or even know what harness racing is thats how this all keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
until this gets real public and regular people with authority see it and figure it out its all going down.

i may not agree with how petrelli does it but what other way is there at this point? and he isnt wrong.
 what are people afraid of? i can only hope law enforcement has their eyes on the industry and will start locking people up. we will see if anyone has a backbone.

  Lying Jenny, Pertrelli has proven over and over again he's an immature child.. ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Way to go on May 07, 2025, 09:50:28 PM
Amen to the truth coming out
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 07, 2025, 10:39:58 PM
harness racing is probably the most crooked business in the world.
everyone may think Petrelli is crazy. i do as well, but he isnt wrong. i would say he is more often right than wrong and its not even close.

there have always been different rules for different people. depending on who you are judges may turn their heads to violations. certain people may get lighter penalties. we have all seen it first hand.

husband gets a positive so then they put their wife down as trainer. business goes on as usual. there are no reprecusions. racing commisions at each state allow it to continue to happen.

you have vets pre racing horses on race day. maybe early in the day or even while giving lasix.
vets will tube your horse on race day.

you have drivers and trainers betting against their own horses. maybe some get envelopes.

you have adult men predatorizing under age girls. except simon allard he like boys.

you have horse killers racing every night.

people lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis.

i would really like to turn on 60 minutes one sunday and see all the dirty laundry aired out.

so few regular people follow or even know what harness racing is thats how this all keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
until this gets real public and regular people with authority see it and figure it out its all going down.

i may not agree with how petrelli does it but what other way is there at this point? and he isnt wrong.
 what are people afraid of? i can only hope law enforcement has their eyes on the industry and will start locking people up. we will see if anyone has a backbone.

Funny..Watched a few races at Rosecroft and then see this post.  What's going on in this sport is just gross.  Wagner horses running like their asses are on fire once again.  Paquet back driving at the croft says it all.  Also,Milby who may have won a total of 5 races last year is now winning races every week.   Harness racing is the most corrupt sport and it's really undeniable.  USTA is doing nothing to rid of the dopers and corruption.   I have been watching ..not wagering.  If you just watch tracks like Saratoga, Yonkers and Rosecroft....don't bet them..just watch.  It's crazy
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 08, 2025, 12:39:13 AM
harness racing is probably the most crooked business in the world.
everyone may think Petrelli is crazy. i do as well, but he isnt wrong. i would say he is more often right than wrong and its not even close.

there have always been different rules for different people. depending on who you are judges may turn their heads to violations. certain people may get lighter penalties. we have all seen it first hand.

husband gets a positive so then they put their wife down as trainer. business goes on as usual. there are no reprecusions. racing commisions at each state allow it to continue to happen.

you have vets pre racing horses on race day. maybe early in the day or even while giving lasix.
vets will tube your horse on race day.

you have drivers and trainers betting against their own horses. maybe some get envelopes.

you have adult men predatorizing under age girls. except simon allard he like boys.

you have horse killers racing every night.

people lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis.

i would really like to turn on 60 minutes one sunday and see all the dirty laundry aired out.

so few regular people follow or even know what harness racing is thats how this all keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
until this gets real public and regular people with authority see it and figure it out its all going down.

i may not agree with how petrelli does it but what other way is there at this point? and he isnt wrong.
 what are people afraid of? i can only hope law enforcement has their eyes on the industry and will start locking people up. we will see if anyone has a backbone.
All true  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on May 08, 2025, 12:39:56 AM
Funny..Watched a few races at Rosecroft and then see this post.  What's going on in this sport is just gross.  Wagner horses running like their asses are on fire once again.  Paquet back driving at the croft says it all.  Also,Milby who may have won a total of 5 races last year is now winning races every week.   Harness racing is the most corrupt sport and it's really undeniable.  USTA is doing nothing to rid of the dopers and corruption.   I have been watching ..not wagering.  If you just watch tracks like Saratoga, Yonkers and Rosecroft....don't bet them..just watch.  It's crazy
All true  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 08, 2025, 12:33:03 PM
  Lying Jenny, Pertrelli has proven over and over again he's an immature child.. ngc3 ngc3

MAYBE IMMATURE  BUT HE IS NO WAY WRONG ABOUT MOST IF NOT EVERYTHING HE SAYS OR BRINGS TO LIGHT.  ITS A BAD BAD AND SAD BUSINESS.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 08, 2025, 12:40:29 PM
MAYBE IMMATURE  BUT HE IS NO WAY WRONG ABOUT MOST IF NOT EVERYTHING HE SAYS OR BRINGS TO LIGHT.  ITS A BAD BAD AND SAD BUSINESS.

I am not immature!!! Na na nah nah boo boo you poopy head.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 08, 2025, 12:43:56 PM
Funny..Watched a few races at Rosecroft and then see this post.  What's going on in this sport is just gross.  Wagner horses running like their asses are on fire once again.  Paquet back driving at the croft says it all.  Also,Milby who may have won a total of 5 races last year is now winning races every week.   Harness racing is the most corrupt sport and it's really undeniable.  USTA is doing nothing to rid of the dopers and corruption.   I have been watching ..not wagering.  If you just watch tracks like Saratoga, Yonkers and Rosecroft....don't bet them..just watch.  It's crazy

How about watching something else since nothing about the business pleases you!
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 08, 2025, 12:48:17 PM
WHAT DO YOU THINK TESSA PERRIN(JD PERRIN) DO TO THEIR HORSES TO MAKE THEM GO SO FAST?  WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE TERRIBLE?

JOHN WAGNER USE MULTIPLE PEOPLETO RACE HIS HORSES FOR HIM WHEN HE IS SUSPENEDED. WHAT DOE HE PUT INTO HIS HORSES?

WHAT VETS HELPS  KREISER AT NORTHFIELD?

WHAT ARE THESE VETS DOING ON THESE FARMS?  WHAT ARE THEY INJECTING INTO THESE HORSES JOINTS? RED ACID? SNAKE VENOM? CORTISONE?

WHAT ARE THEY TUBING THESE HORSES WITH DAY OF THE RACE?

WHAT ELSE ARE HORSES BEING GIVEN BESIDES LASIX. ( I KNOW FOR SURE FISHMAN WHILE DOING LASIX AT RACEWAY PARK WOULD ADMINISTER OTHER CHEMICALS TO CERTAIN PEOPLES HORSES) I KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

FISHMAN DID LASIX AT NORTHFIELD FOR A LONG TIME TOO.  IM SURE HE WAS JUST ADMINISTERING LASIX TO ALL HORSES RIGHT?  NO TEST RUNS?

A CERTAIN TAINER WAS CAUGHT WITH A CATTLE PROD IN HIS BARN. IS THAT PART IN HOW TO TRAIN A STANDARDBRED?

GUILTY HORSE KILLER ARE WALKING AROUND FREE AS A BEE WITH A SKANKY GF RACING HIS HORSES FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ISNT ALLOWED.

HOW MANY HORSE TRAILERS PULL INTO THE TRACKS AND HAVE NEEDLES AND SYRINGES ON THEM.   HOW MANY DONT GET CAUGHT?

Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 08, 2025, 12:53:15 PM
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Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 08, 2025, 01:40:35 PM
WHAT DO YOU THINK TESSA PERRIN(JD PERRIN) DO TO THEIR HORSES TO MAKE THEM GO SO FAST?  WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE TERRIBLE?

JOHN WAGNER USE MULTIPLE PEOPLETO RACE HIS HORSES FOR HIM WHEN HE IS SUSPENEDED. WHAT DOE HE PUT INTO HIS HORSES?

WHAT VETS HELPS  KREISER AT NORTHFIELD?

WHAT ARE THESE VETS DOING ON THESE FARMS?  WHAT ARE THEY INJECTING INTO THESE HORSES JOINTS? RED ACID? SNAKE VENOM? CORTISONE?

WHAT ARE THEY TUBING THESE HORSES WITH DAY OF THE RACE?

WHAT ELSE ARE HORSES BEING GIVEN BESIDES LASIX. ( I KNOW FOR SURE FISHMAN WHILE DOING LASIX AT RACEWAY PARK WOULD ADMINISTER OTHER CHEMICALS TO CERTAIN PEOPLES HORSES) I KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

FISHMAN DID LASIX AT NORTHFIELD FOR A LONG TIME TOO.  IM SURE HE WAS JUST ADMINISTERING LASIX TO ALL HORSES RIGHT?  NO TEST RUNS?

A CERTAIN TAINER WAS CAUGHT WITH A CATTLE PROD IN HIS BARN. IS THAT PART IN HOW TO TRAIN A STANDARDBRED?

GUILTY HORSE KILLER ARE WALKING AROUND FREE AS A BEE WITH A SKANKY GF RACING HIS HORSES FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ISNT ALLOWED.

HOW MANY HORSE TRAILERS PULL INTO THE TRACKS AND HAVE NEEDLES AND SYRINGES ON THEM.   HOW MANY DONT GET CAUGHT?

 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 08, 2025, 01:50:25 PM
  Lying Jenny, Pertrelli has proven over and over again he's an immature child.. ngc3 ngc3
he also has self-esteem issues. Have you ever noticed how he’s always ranting about powerful/successful men in the business never dead beats like himself.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 08, 2025, 03:02:29 PM
he also has self-esteem issues. Have you ever noticed how he’s always ranting about powerful/successful men in the business never dead beats like himself.

You talking about the one's who just gave the girlfriend of a convicted horse killer a trainers license who never touched a harness or Standardbred in her life and are now in Columbus trying to make it go away?
The other one who sent out an email scathing the state of NY for a bill HE lobbied for and is now telling breeders to sell their mares? Is in control of the same money he competes for? Yet is telling his competition to SELL THEIR MARES???  ngc3
The other one who is guilty of breaking federal land and pollution laws? Who was hosting a Standardbred carcass facility?

Yeah, I really wanna grow up and be like them.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 08, 2025, 03:40:13 PM
he also has self-esteem issues. Have you ever noticed how he’s always ranting about powerful/successful men in the business never dead beats like himself.
   tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 08, 2025, 06:04:44 PM
WHAT DO YOU THINK TESSA PERRIN(JD PERRIN) DO TO THEIR HORSES TO MAKE THEM GO SO FAST?  WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE TERRIBLE?

JOHN WAGNER USE MULTIPLE PEOPLETO RACE HIS HORSES FOR HIM WHEN HE IS SUSPENEDED. WHAT DOE HE PUT INTO HIS HORSES?

WHAT VETS HELPS  KREISER AT NORTHFIELD?

WHAT ARE THESE VETS DOING ON THESE FARMS?  WHAT ARE THEY INJECTING INTO THESE HORSES JOINTS? RED ACID? SNAKE VENOM? CORTISONE?

WHAT ARE THEY TUBING THESE HORSES WITH DAY OF THE RACE?

WHAT ELSE ARE HORSES BEING GIVEN BESIDES LASIX. ( I KNOW FOR SURE FISHMAN WHILE DOING LASIX AT RACEWAY PARK WOULD ADMINISTER OTHER CHEMICALS TO CERTAIN PEOPLES HORSES) I KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

FISHMAN DID LASIX AT NORTHFIELD FOR A LONG TIME TOO.  IM SURE HE WAS JUST ADMINISTERING LASIX TO ALL HORSES RIGHT?  NO TEST RUNS?

A CERTAIN TAINER WAS CAUGHT WITH A CATTLE PROD IN HIS BARN. IS THAT PART IN HOW TO TRAIN A STANDARDBRED?

GUILTY HORSE KILLER ARE WALKING AROUND FREE AS A BEE WITH A SKANKY GF RACING HIS HORSES FOR HIM BECAUSE HE ISNT ALLOWED.

HOW MANY HORSE TRAILERS PULL INTO THE TRACKS AND HAVE NEEDLES AND SYRINGES ON THEM.   HOW MANY DONT GET CAUGHT?

All the business gets done on RT 8 south back in the day.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 08, 2025, 06:06:50 PM
You talking about the one's who just gave the girlfriend of a convicted horse killer a trainers license who never touched a harness or Standardbred in her life and are now in Columbus trying to make it go away?
The other one who sent out an email scathing the state of NY for a bill HE lobbied for and is now telling breeders to sell their mares? Is in control of the same money he competes for? Yet is telling his competition to SELL THEIR MARES???  ngc3
The other one who is guilty of breaking federal land and pollution laws? Who was hosting a Standardbred carcass facility?

Yeah, I really wanna grow up and be like them.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Are you drinking? Who and what are you talking about?
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 08, 2025, 06:32:54 PM
How about watching something else since nothing about the business pleases you!

How about you just fuck off!   Facts are out there ..so suck it up asshole.  The sport is the most corrupt and there is no denying it.  Hope they close all the tracks honestly .  Teach all the fucking cheaters a lesson.  It's interesting watching all the cheaters kill the sport. Love it.  Suck it up... It will be gone soon.    I watch for the amusement.  It's really fucked up ..the level of cheating and then everyone cries because tracks are closing.  WELL DUH! 
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 08, 2025, 06:50:06 PM
How about you just fuck off!   Facts are out there ..so suck it up asshole.  The sport is the most corrupt and there is no denying it.  Hope they close all the tracks honestly .  Teach all the fucking cheaters a lesson.  It's interesting watching all the cheaters kill the sport. Love it.  Suck it up... It will be gone soon.    I watch for the amusement.  It's really fucked up ..the level of cheating and then everyone cries because tracks are closing.  WELL DUH!

Watch tomorrow what happens in Buffalo. Unprecedented.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 08, 2025, 07:12:04 PM
how do you know i wasnt one of the succeful ones? how do you know i wasnt benefitting from these vets/fishman or benefitting from being in the know when and what drivers are doing?
i lived it. so dont say im jealous. i chose to get out. i watched the best and i learned from the best. when those vets came in on raceday i knew i could bet whatever i wanted. when the horses were turned out at the farm i knew i could bet all i wanted. the farm always had visitors the afternoon of the race. i seen it i was complicit in some ways. i benefitted from it. i was there when they would inject horses with a special bottle the trainer got from his pal or a guy from canada.
why do you think peole prefer to be at farms. go walk through the tack rooms at sahbra. do you think you would find anything nefarious?
there are lots of naive people. if it werent for degenerates there would be little to no handle.
its bad you can bet on a full race card and never open a past performace sheet. just look at who the trainers are. you can for the most part make money .

WHEN WILL THE INFO GET IN THE CORRECT PEOPLES HANDS?
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 08, 2025, 07:20:01 PM
how do you know i wasnt one of the succeful ones? how do you know i wasnt benefitting from these vets/fishman or benefitting from being in the know when and what drivers are doing?
i lived it. so dont say im jealous. i chose to get out. i watched the best and i learned from the best. when those vets came in on raceday i knew i could bet whatever i wanted. when the horses were turned out at the farm i knew i could bet all i wanted. the farm always had visitors the afternoon of the race. i seen it i was complicit in some ways. i benefitted from it. i was there when they would inject horses with a special bottle the trainer got from his pal or a guy from canada.
why do you think peole prefer to be at farms. go walk through the tack rooms at sahbra. do you think you would find anything nefarious?
there are lots of naive people. if it werent for degenerates there would be little to no handle.
its bad you can bet on a full race card and never open a past performace sheet. just look at who the trainers are. you can for the most part make money .

WHEN WILL THE INFO GET IN THE CORRECT PEOPLES HANDS?

First, take it from where it comes. Here? When they post their actual identity with proof, then take their pixels seriously. As for getting info into correct hands? Here's a couple things. I just had this conversation with a buddy today too. Who has those correct hands? Nobody. Last year I brought evidence to Jason Settlemoir that a week later LITERALLY what I said would happen, happened. As well as a list of other items. Not long after I was dragged into the conference room by him and Brice. I'm not stupid and always prepared. I got the biggest bullshit stories and veiled threats yet. THEN two days later after I went public with what I took out of there LEGALLY and proved their lies I was contacted by a NJ State Police Detective Settlemoir called. That went absolutely nowhere, but now I am no longer welcome at any Gural tracks. Why? I've never ever been guilty of anything in the game. I thought the only and best people to go to who can be trusted and actually care were them. Well how did that work out for me? Now convicted horse killer Fred Bourgaults girlfriend is racing a horse at TIOGA!!! AND, know what Shades told someone today who called and said what the fuck you're allowing this said? It's been cleared by the channels including Brice at The Meadowlands AND hardly anyone knows about it anyway. WRONG, hardly anyone isn't afraid to say it. See my point???
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 08, 2025, 10:42:15 PM
You have to go over their heads. They are obviously compromised.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 09, 2025, 12:41:25 AM
You have to go over their heads. They are obviously compromised.

You can't trust anyone inside the industry. You also cannot trust the commissions. Only organization that got any done of substance was the bureau. So the real answer is HISA or a form of it. Proof they're scared HISA will work is how hard the USTA is fighting it.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 09, 2025, 07:49:14 AM
You can't trust anyone inside the industry. You also cannot trust the commissions. Only organization that got any done of substance was the bureau. So the real answer is HISA or a form of it. Proof they're scared HISA will work is how hard the USTA is fighting it.
    GET A LIFE!  ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 09, 2025, 07:54:00 AM
Are you drinking? Who and what are you talking about?
   
     ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 09, 2025, 08:33:26 AM
    GET A LIFE!  ngc3

Oh no....CAPS!!!! You mad??? Did you type harder!?!?!  ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 09, 2025, 09:40:27 AM
Oh no....CAPS!!!! You mad??? Did you type harder!?!?!  ngc3
   Not mad cant you see I'm laughing?    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 12, 2025, 09:30:09 PM
Oh no....CAPS!!!! You mad??? Did you type harder!?!?!  ngc3
Press release coming soon on the trials and tribulations of your journey to the abyss
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Superfecta on May 13, 2025, 08:52:08 AM
Press release coming soon on the trials and tribulations of your journey to the abyss

Mike speaks the truth and you try to shit on what he has to say. He’s got dirt on you and your buddies.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 09:36:09 AM
Mike speaks the truth and you try to shit on what he has to say. He’s got dirt on you and your buddies.

Remember the press release coming from Steven Jones last year about me? Instead a letter clarifying what he told Mark Ford that I owed money were flat out lies.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Ask this person to post their name, then maybe we can award them with 2% credibility. Maybe the press release is to announce I'm not wanted in harness racing???? OH NO!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Brown jug on May 13, 2025, 11:28:56 AM
boring , nothing new here
 ever notice its the same 2 or 3 guys just recycling the same comments on multiple threads
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 11:29:39 AM
boring , nothing new here
 ever notice its the same 2 or 3 guys just recycling the same comments on multiple threads

And yet here you are commenting on them.  ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 13, 2025, 11:41:43 AM
boring , nothing new here
 ever notice its the same 2 or 3 guys just recycling the same comments on multiple threads


   Well, its the no life child!   tmbz1 ngc3 73cv.2
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 13, 2025, 11:45:35 AM
Selective Justice at the Meadowlands: Why Are Some Drug Offenders Still Driving and Training?
If you’ve followed harness racing over the past few years, you know Jeff Gural has marketed himself as the sport’s anti-doping crusader. Yet a closer look reveals a glaring double standard: some trainers and drivers with known drug positives or federal investigations are still welcome at the Meadowlands — while others were permanently banned.

Let’s talk facts:
🚨 People Who Appeared in Federal Drug Lists — and Were BANNED by Gural:
•   Jenn Bongiorno – Banned, then miraculously unbanned.
•   Bob Bongiorno – Same story: banned, then quietly reinstated.
•   Scott DiDomenico, Jeff Gillis – Also named with Ethamsylate, a red-flag banned substance.
But here's the kicker: Gural reversed only the Bongiornos’ suspensions — no other names were reinstated.
🧾 Quote from Jeff Gural himself that exposes the bias:
“Problem is Bowden is a big supporter financially so I need to find out what he did. What a Yannick did was nothing new but with Surick makes it bad.”
— Jeff Gural (from email)
Let that sink in: decisions on banning individuals are influenced by financial support, not ethics or integrity. If you're a sponsor or a political ally of the Meadowlands, the rules suddenly bend.
 
🚨 Who's NOT Banned Despite Being Named or Closely Tied?
•   Jason Bartlett – Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Corey Callahan - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Jimmy Takter – Long-time trainer, never banned despite deep connections.
•   Nancy Takter – Actively training and racing.
•   Doug Dilloin Jr - Actively training and racing.
•   Linda Toscano, Andy Miller, Julie Miller – All still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   Wayne Chrebet – owner buying drugs for trainer Kevin McDermott who trains for Gural
•   CC Racing – Owned by Tim Tetrick who is HOF Driver at Meadowlands
•   John Fodera – Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Hatfield Stables - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Alan Katz  - Major owner of horses with Nancy Takter and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Jonathan Klee - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Billy Garafalo  - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Patrick Lachance - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Let It Ride Stables (Eric Cherry) - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Dana Parham - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Brett Pelling - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   J&T Silva - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Cory Stratton - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.

These names continue to appear on entry sheets and stake race programs — protected by silence, relationships, or money.  Remember these bills can’t be for work because Fishman never left his home in South Florida.  This was all for drugs.

The pattern is clear: if you're part of the Meadowlands "in crowd" or have deep political and financial ties, you skate. Everyone else? You’re expendable.
The Untouchables: How the Crawfords Walked Away Clean from the Biggest Doping Scandal in Harness Racing
In the aftermath of the largest doping scandal in the history of horse racing — one that saw federal indictments, lifetime bans, and widespread disgrace — there remains one name that somehow dodged every bullet: Albert and Michelle Crawford.

While smaller owners were tossed aside and reputations were destroyed, the Crawfords remain not only unscathed, but still front-and-center sponsors of The Meadowlands Pace — one of the sport’s premier events. And yet, they had horses with not one, not two, but three federally indicted trainers:
•   Nick Surick – the ringleader of the doping operation, who pled guilty to conspiracy charges.
•   Chris Oakes – hit with federal indictments for using illegal substances on racehorses.
•   Jorge Navarro – convicted and sentenced for running a long-term doping ring involving top-tier thoroughbreds.
•   And let’s not forget Jenn Bongiorno – featured on the federal Fishman drug distribution list, yet never even questioned publicly by the Meadowlands or the feds.
Despite that extensive web of association, the Crawfords were never suspended, questioned, or held accountable in any meaningful way. No scrutiny from Meadowlands management. No investigation from regulators. Nothing.
 
💰 Follow the Money: The Meadowlands' Convenient Blind Spot
Here’s where the conspiracy theory becomes less theory and more reality: the Crawfords are major sponsors of the Meadowlands Pace. Their money is everywhere — in stakes races, in advertising, in the backside relationships that oil the industry.

When Jeff Gural claims to be the sport’s watchdog, banning dozens of small-time trainers and owners tied to the scandal, it’s impossible not to notice this glaring double standard.
Why were owners with even minor ties to wrongdoing banned or shamed publicly, while the Crawfords — whose horses ran under the care of some of the dirtiest trainers in modern racing history — remain completely untouchable?
 
🧬 The Antonacci Angle: Hiding in Plain Sight
Even more disturbing is the presence of Chris Antonacci on the Fishman drug list — a name most casual fans wouldn’t think twice about. Why? Because Chris Antonacci doesn't even hold a racing license. Yet somehow, he was directly tied to the illegal distribution chain, and still, no questions asked, no accountability.
But his family? That’s another story. Frank Antonacci Sr. and Frank Jr. run one of the most powerful stables in harness racing. They’re major owners, major players, and major contributors to the Meadowlands. So here's the question no one in power seems willing to ask:

Why was Fishman delivering to your unlicensed brother? What were you trying to hide?
If integrity actually mattered, that alone would trigger an investigation. But just like with the Crawfords, money, influence, and proximity to the Meadowlands' inner circle has once again bought silence.
❓ What about Meadowlands Integrity?
The Meadowlands touts itself as a “clean racing” environment, yet their enforcement of rules is selective at best — politically motivated at worst. When sponsors and financial contributors get treated differently than average trainers or owners, it’s not integrity — it’s favoritism.
 
📢 Time for Transparency
•   Why were the Bongiornos the only ones reinstated?
•   Why is Gural still allowing people on federal drug lists to race?
•   Why are fans and bettors misled into thinking it’s a level playing field?

The truth: Meadowlands bans who it wants, when it wants — depending on your checkbook, not your record.
 
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Bitter Truth on May 13, 2025, 11:51:55 AM
Great post Chips. tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: MCR on May 13, 2025, 11:59:54 AM
harness racing is probably the most crooked business in the world.
everyone may think Petrelli is crazy. i do as well, but he isnt wrong. i would say he is more often right than wrong and its not even close.

there have always been different rules for different people. depending on who you are judges may turn their heads to violations. certain people may get lighter penalties. we have all seen it first hand.

husband gets a positive so then they put their wife down as trainer. business goes on as usual. there are no reprecusions. racing commisions at each state allow it to continue to happen.

you have vets pre racing horses on race day. maybe early in the day or even while giving lasix.
vets will tube your horse on race day.

you have drivers and trainers betting against their own horses. maybe some get envelopes.

you have adult men predatorizing under age girls. except simon allard he like boys.

you have horse killers racing every night.

people lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis.

i would really like to turn on 60 minutes one sunday and see all the dirty laundry aired out.

so few regular people follow or even know what harness racing is thats how this all keeps getting swept under the rug.
 
until this gets real public and regular people with authority see it and figure it out its all going down.

i may not agree with how petrelli does it but what other way is there at this point? and he isnt wrong.
 what are people afraid of? i can only hope law enforcement has their eyes on the industry and will start locking people up. we will see if anyone has a backbone.
The scary thing is yes he comes across as crazy but I agree he usually hits the nail on the head.  The shit that goes on the corruption and drug use amongst many other things is sickening.  It is more than just the horsemen that are corrupt. The racing commission/racetrack management is just as bad!
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: MCR on May 13, 2025, 12:24:40 PM
Selective Justice at the Meadowlands: Why Are Some Drug Offenders Still Driving and Training?
If you’ve followed harness racing over the past few years, you know Jeff Gural has marketed himself as the sport’s anti-doping crusader. Yet a closer look reveals a glaring double standard: some trainers and drivers with known drug positives or federal investigations are still welcome at the Meadowlands — while others were permanently banned.

Let’s talk facts:
🚨 People Who Appeared in Federal Drug Lists — and Were BANNED by Gural:
•   Jenn Bongiorno – Banned, then miraculously unbanned.
•   Bob Bongiorno – Same story: banned, then quietly reinstated.
•   Scott DiDomenico, Jeff Gillis – Also named with Ethamsylate, a red-flag banned substance.
But here's the kicker: Gural reversed only the Bongiornos’ suspensions — no other names were reinstated.
🧾 Quote from Jeff Gural himself that exposes the bias:
“Problem is Bowden is a big supporter financially so I need to find out what he did. What a Yannick did was nothing new but with Surick makes it bad.”
— Jeff Gural (from email)
Let that sink in: decisions on banning individuals are influenced by financial support, not ethics or integrity. If you're a sponsor or a political ally of the Meadowlands, the rules suddenly bend.
 
🚨 Who's NOT Banned Despite Being Named or Closely Tied?
•   Jason Bartlett – Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Corey Callahan - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Jimmy Takter – Long-time trainer, never banned despite deep connections.
•   Nancy Takter – Actively training and racing.
•   Doug Dilloin Jr - Actively training and racing.
•   Linda Toscano, Andy Miller, Julie Miller – All still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   Wayne Chrebet – owner buying drugs for trainer Kevin McDermott who trains for Gural
•   CC Racing – Owned by Tim Tetrick who is HOF Driver at Meadowlands
•   John Fodera – Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Hatfield Stables - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Alan Katz  - Major owner of horses with Nancy Takter and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Jonathan Klee - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Billy Garafalo  - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Patrick Lachance - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Let It Ride Stables (Eric Cherry) - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Dana Parham - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Brett Pelling - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   J&T Silva - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Cory Stratton - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.

These names continue to appear on entry sheets and stake race programs — protected by silence, relationships, or money.  Remember these bills can’t be for work because Fishman never left his home in South Florida.  This was all for drugs.

The pattern is clear: if you're part of the Meadowlands "in crowd" or have deep political and financial ties, you skate. Everyone else? You’re expendable.
The Untouchables: How the Crawfords Walked Away Clean from the Biggest Doping Scandal in Harness Racing
In the aftermath of the largest doping scandal in the history of horse racing — one that saw federal indictments, lifetime bans, and widespread disgrace — there remains one name that somehow dodged every bullet: Albert and Michelle Crawford.

While smaller owners were tossed aside and reputations were destroyed, the Crawfords remain not only unscathed, but still front-and-center sponsors of The Meadowlands Pace — one of the sport’s premier events. And yet, they had horses with not one, not two, but three federally indicted trainers:
•   Nick Surick – the ringleader of the doping operation, who pled guilty to conspiracy charges.
•   Chris Oakes – hit with federal indictments for using illegal substances on racehorses.
•   Jorge Navarro – convicted and sentenced for running a long-term doping ring involving top-tier thoroughbreds.
•   And let’s not forget Jenn Bongiorno – featured on the federal Fishman drug distribution list, yet never even questioned publicly by the Meadowlands or the feds.
Despite that extensive web of association, the Crawfords were never suspended, questioned, or held accountable in any meaningful way. No scrutiny from Meadowlands management. No investigation from regulators. Nothing.
 
💰 Follow the Money: The Meadowlands' Convenient Blind Spot
Here’s where the conspiracy theory becomes less theory and more reality: the Crawfords are major sponsors of the Meadowlands Pace. Their money is everywhere — in stakes races, in advertising, in the backside relationships that oil the industry.

When Jeff Gural claims to be the sport’s watchdog, banning dozens of small-time trainers and owners tied to the scandal, it’s impossible not to notice this glaring double standard.
Why were owners with even minor ties to wrongdoing banned or shamed publicly, while the Crawfords — whose horses ran under the care of some of the dirtiest trainers in modern racing history — remain completely untouchable?
 
🧬 The Antonacci Angle: Hiding in Plain Sight
Even more disturbing is the presence of Chris Antonacci on the Fishman drug list — a name most casual fans wouldn’t think twice about. Why? Because Chris Antonacci doesn't even hold a racing license. Yet somehow, he was directly tied to the illegal distribution chain, and still, no questions asked, no accountability.
But his family? That’s another story. Frank Antonacci Sr. and Frank Jr. run one of the most powerful stables in harness racing. They’re major owners, major players, and major contributors to the Meadowlands. So here's the question no one in power seems willing to ask:

Why was Fishman delivering to your unlicensed brother? What were you trying to hide?
If integrity actually mattered, that alone would trigger an investigation. But just like with the Crawfords, money, influence, and proximity to the Meadowlands' inner circle has once again bought silence.
❓ What about Meadowlands Integrity?
The Meadowlands touts itself as a “clean racing” environment, yet their enforcement of rules is selective at best — politically motivated at worst. When sponsors and financial contributors get treated differently than average trainers or owners, it’s not integrity — it’s favoritism.
 
📢 Time for Transparency
•   Why were the Bongiornos the only ones reinstated?
•   Why is Gural still allowing people on federal drug lists to race?
•   Why are fans and bettors misled into thinking it’s a level playing field?

The truth: Meadowlands bans who it wants, when it wants — depending on your checkbook, not your record.
All very well said
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Papillon on May 13, 2025, 01:09:57 PM
Selective Justice at the Meadowlands: Why Are Some Drug Offenders Still Driving and Training?
If you’ve followed harness racing over the past few years, you know Jeff Gural has marketed himself as the sport’s anti-doping crusader. Yet a closer look reveals a glaring double standard: some trainers and drivers with known drug positives or federal investigations are still welcome at the Meadowlands — while others were permanently banned.

Let’s talk facts:
🚨 People Who Appeared in Federal Drug Lists — and Were BANNED by Gural:
•   Jenn Bongiorno – Banned, then miraculously unbanned.
•   Bob Bongiorno – Same story: banned, then quietly reinstated.
•   Scott DiDomenico, Jeff Gillis – Also named with Ethamsylate, a red-flag banned substance.
But here's the kicker: Gural reversed only the Bongiornos’ suspensions — no other names were reinstated.
🧾 Quote from Jeff Gural himself that exposes the bias:
“Problem is Bowden is a big supporter financially so I need to find out what he did. What a Yannick did was nothing new but with Surick makes it bad.”
— Jeff Gural (from email)
Let that sink in: decisions on banning individuals are influenced by financial support, not ethics or integrity. If you're a sponsor or a political ally of the Meadowlands, the rules suddenly bend.
 
🚨 Who's NOT Banned Despite Being Named or Closely Tied?
•   Jason Bartlett – Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Corey Callahan - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Jimmy Takter – Long-time trainer, never banned despite deep connections.
•   Nancy Takter – Actively training and racing.
•   Doug Dilloin Jr - Actively training and racing.
•   Linda Toscano, Andy Miller, Julie Miller – All still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   Wayne Chrebet – owner buying drugs for trainer Kevin McDermott who trains for Gural
•   CC Racing – Owned by Tim Tetrick who is HOF Driver at Meadowlands
•   John Fodera – Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Hatfield Stables - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Alan Katz  - Major owner of horses with Nancy Takter and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Jonathan Klee - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Billy Garafalo  - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Patrick Lachance - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Let It Ride Stables (Eric Cherry) - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Dana Parham - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Brett Pelling - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   J&T Silva - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Cory Stratton - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.

These names continue to appear on entry sheets and stake race programs — protected by silence, relationships, or money.  Remember these bills can’t be for work because Fishman never left his home in South Florida.  This was all for drugs.

The pattern is clear: if you're part of the Meadowlands "in crowd" or have deep political and financial ties, you skate. Everyone else? You’re expendable.
The Untouchables: How the Crawfords Walked Away Clean from the Biggest Doping Scandal in Harness Racing
In the aftermath of the largest doping scandal in the history of horse racing — one that saw federal indictments, lifetime bans, and widespread disgrace — there remains one name that somehow dodged every bullet: Albert and Michelle Crawford.

While smaller owners were tossed aside and reputations were destroyed, the Crawfords remain not only unscathed, but still front-and-center sponsors of The Meadowlands Pace — one of the sport’s premier events. And yet, they had horses with not one, not two, but three federally indicted trainers:
•   Nick Surick – the ringleader of the doping operation, who pled guilty to conspiracy charges.
•   Chris Oakes – hit with federal indictments for using illegal substances on racehorses.
•   Jorge Navarro – convicted and sentenced for running a long-term doping ring involving top-tier thoroughbreds.
•   And let’s not forget Jenn Bongiorno – featured on the federal Fishman drug distribution list, yet never even questioned publicly by the Meadowlands or the feds.
Despite that extensive web of association, the Crawfords were never suspended, questioned, or held accountable in any meaningful way. No scrutiny from Meadowlands management. No investigation from regulators. Nothing.
 
💰 Follow the Money: The Meadowlands' Convenient Blind Spot
Here’s where the conspiracy theory becomes less theory and more reality: the Crawfords are major sponsors of the Meadowlands Pace. Their money is everywhere — in stakes races, in advertising, in the backside relationships that oil the industry.

When Jeff Gural claims to be the sport’s watchdog, banning dozens of small-time trainers and owners tied to the scandal, it’s impossible not to notice this glaring double standard.
Why were owners with even minor ties to wrongdoing banned or shamed publicly, while the Crawfords — whose horses ran under the care of some of the dirtiest trainers in modern racing history — remain completely untouchable?
 
🧬 The Antonacci Angle: Hiding in Plain Sight
Even more disturbing is the presence of Chris Antonacci on the Fishman drug list — a name most casual fans wouldn’t think twice about. Why? Because Chris Antonacci doesn't even hold a racing license. Yet somehow, he was directly tied to the illegal distribution chain, and still, no questions asked, no accountability.
But his family? That’s another story. Frank Antonacci Sr. and Frank Jr. run one of the most powerful stables in harness racing. They’re major owners, major players, and major contributors to the Meadowlands. So here's the question no one in power seems willing to ask:

Why was Fishman delivering to your unlicensed brother? What were you trying to hide?
If integrity actually mattered, that alone would trigger an investigation. But just like with the Crawfords, money, influence, and proximity to the Meadowlands' inner circle has once again bought silence.
❓ What about Meadowlands Integrity?
The Meadowlands touts itself as a “clean racing” environment, yet their enforcement of rules is selective at best — politically motivated at worst. When sponsors and financial contributors get treated differently than average trainers or owners, it’s not integrity — it’s favoritism.
 
📢 Time for Transparency
•   Why were the Bongiornos the only ones reinstated?
•   Why is Gural still allowing people on federal drug lists to race?
•   Why are fans and bettors misled into thinking it’s a level playing field?

The truth: Meadowlands bans who it wants, when it wants — depending on your checkbook, not your record.

brilliant post tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 13, 2025, 01:17:41 PM
Now these are true facts for a change thank you for the great post! So tired of reading bullshit from a few on here..
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: I’mwatching on May 13, 2025, 01:27:33 PM
All sounds familiar!
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 13, 2025, 02:46:31 PM
That article was sent to Harness Racing Update but will never be printed.  The author is very well respected and very knowledgeable.  Maybe Mike can do a Youtube on it and ask the questions?
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 02:56:27 PM
That article was sent to Harness Racing Update but will never be printed.  The author is very well respected and very knowledgeable.  Maybe Mike can do a Youtube on it and ask the questions?

TBH there's nothing in there I disagree with, nor should anyone else. Problem is the horsemen refuse to face reality and those in charge won't do it anyway. In the end the public will never want harness racing again. And with good reason too.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 13, 2025, 04:26:16 PM
TBH there's nothing in there I disagree with, nor should anyone else. Problem is the horsemen refuse to face reality and those in charge won't do it anyway. In the end the public will never want harness racing again. And with good reason too.
Press release coming soon little man. Just compiling information. Since you’re such a fan, maybe we’ll have Larry Rolla make the announcement.!
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 04:32:21 PM
Press release coming soon little man. Just compiling information. Since you’re such a fan, maybe we’ll have Larry Rolla make the announcement.!

Go for it, he will reach the same amount of people that are interested in anything Harnes Racing related. None.  ngc3 BTW, who handles Steve Jones' "press releases"? @cameohills.com like  his email??  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 13, 2025, 04:58:07 PM
Selective Justice at the Meadowlands: Why Are Some Drug Offenders Still Driving and Training?
If you’ve followed harness racing over the past few years, you know Jeff Gural has marketed himself as the sport’s anti-doping crusader. Yet a closer look reveals a glaring double standard: some trainers and drivers with known drug positives or federal investigations are still welcome at the Meadowlands — while others were permanently banned.

Let’s talk facts:
🚨 People Who Appeared in Federal Drug Lists — and Were BANNED by Gural:
•   Jenn Bongiorno – Banned, then miraculously unbanned.
•   Bob Bongiorno – Same story: banned, then quietly reinstated.
•   Scott DiDomenico, Jeff Gillis – Also named with Ethamsylate, a red-flag banned substance.
But here's the kicker: Gural reversed only the Bongiornos’ suspensions — no other names were reinstated.
🧾 Quote from Jeff Gural himself that exposes the bias:
“Problem is Bowden is a big supporter financially so I need to find out what he did. What a Yannick did was nothing new but with Surick makes it bad.”
— Jeff Gural (from email)
Let that sink in: decisions on banning individuals are influenced by financial support, not ethics or integrity. If you're a sponsor or a political ally of the Meadowlands, the rules suddenly bend.
 
🚨 Who's NOT Banned Despite Being Named or Closely Tied?
•   Jason Bartlett – Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Corey Callahan - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Jimmy Takter – Long-time trainer, never banned despite deep connections.
•   Nancy Takter – Actively training and racing.
•   Doug Dilloin Jr - Actively training and racing.
•   Linda Toscano, Andy Miller, Julie Miller – All still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   Wayne Chrebet – owner buying drugs for trainer Kevin McDermott who trains for Gural
•   CC Racing – Owned by Tim Tetrick who is HOF Driver at Meadowlands
•   John Fodera – Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Hatfield Stables - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Alan Katz  - Major owner of horses with Nancy Takter and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Jonathan Klee - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Billy Garafalo  - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Patrick Lachance - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Let It Ride Stables (Eric Cherry) - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Dana Parham - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Brett Pelling - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   J&T Silva - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Cory Stratton - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.

These names continue to appear on entry sheets and stake race programs — protected by silence, relationships, or money.  Remember these bills can’t be for work because Fishman never left his home in South Florida.  This was all for drugs.

The pattern is clear: if you're part of the Meadowlands "in crowd" or have deep political and financial ties, you skate. Everyone else? You’re expendable.
The Untouchables: How the Crawfords Walked Away Clean from the Biggest Doping Scandal in Harness Racing
In the aftermath of the largest doping scandal in the history of horse racing — one that saw federal indictments, lifetime bans, and widespread disgrace — there remains one name that somehow dodged every bullet: Albert and Michelle Crawford.

While smaller owners were tossed aside and reputations were destroyed, the Crawfords remain not only unscathed, but still front-and-center sponsors of The Meadowlands Pace — one of the sport’s premier events. And yet, they had horses with not one, not two, but three federally indicted trainers:
•   Nick Surick – the ringleader of the doping operation, who pled guilty to conspiracy charges.
•   Chris Oakes – hit with federal indictments for using illegal substances on racehorses.
•   Jorge Navarro – convicted and sentenced for running a long-term doping ring involving top-tier thoroughbreds.
•   And let’s not forget Jenn Bongiorno – featured on the federal Fishman drug distribution list, yet never even questioned publicly by the Meadowlands or the feds.
Despite that extensive web of association, the Crawfords were never suspended, questioned, or held accountable in any meaningful way. No scrutiny from Meadowlands management. No investigation from regulators. Nothing.
 
💰 Follow the Money: The Meadowlands' Convenient Blind Spot
Here’s where the conspiracy theory becomes less theory and more reality: the Crawfords are major sponsors of the Meadowlands Pace. Their money is everywhere — in stakes races, in advertising, in the backside relationships that oil the industry.

When Jeff Gural claims to be the sport’s watchdog, banning dozens of small-time trainers and owners tied to the scandal, it’s impossible not to notice this glaring double standard.
Why were owners with even minor ties to wrongdoing banned or shamed publicly, while the Crawfords — whose horses ran under the care of some of the dirtiest trainers in modern racing history — remain completely untouchable?
 
🧬 The Antonacci Angle: Hiding in Plain Sight
Even more disturbing is the presence of Chris Antonacci on the Fishman drug list — a name most casual fans wouldn’t think twice about. Why? Because Chris Antonacci doesn't even hold a racing license. Yet somehow, he was directly tied to the illegal distribution chain, and still, no questions asked, no accountability.
But his family? That’s another story. Frank Antonacci Sr. and Frank Jr. run one of the most powerful stables in harness racing. They’re major owners, major players, and major contributors to the Meadowlands. So here's the question no one in power seems willing to ask:

Why was Fishman delivering to your unlicensed brother? What were you trying to hide?
If integrity actually mattered, that alone would trigger an investigation. But just like with the Crawfords, money, influence, and proximity to the Meadowlands' inner circle has once again bought silence.
❓ What about Meadowlands Integrity?
The Meadowlands touts itself as a “clean racing” environment, yet their enforcement of rules is selective at best — politically motivated at worst. When sponsors and financial contributors get treated differently than average trainers or owners, it’s not integrity — it’s favoritism.
 
📢 Time for Transparency
•   Why were the Bongiornos the only ones reinstated?
•   Why is Gural still allowing people on federal drug lists to race?
•   Why are fans and bettors misled into thinking it’s a level playing field?

The truth: Meadowlands bans who it wants, when it wants — depending on your checkbook, not your record.



HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. GET THIS OUT IN THE PRESS.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 05:05:46 PM


HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. GET THIS OUT IN THE PRESS.

Problem. What press? At least what press outside the industry? Right there is part of the problem, the industry is so irrelevant the media ignores it. Unless it's an FBI raid or horse beaten to death. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 13, 2025, 06:27:46 PM
What't the odds of HRU even mentioning it?
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 06:31:58 PM
What't the odds of HRU even mentioning it?

Possible, they aren't on an industry leash. But nobody outside the industry reads it. Like here.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Brown jug on May 13, 2025, 07:48:35 PM
question
i dont understand how all these guilty people skated from the fbi
i get all the inside connections allowing them to continue to race and train etc
but why would they escape the fbi dragnet
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 13, 2025, 08:26:41 PM
question
i dont understand how all these guilty people skated from the fbi
i get all the inside connections allowing them to continue to race and train etc
but why would they escape the fbi dragnet

Start by asking Jeff Gural who went on 60 Minutes to praise himself as the God Of Integrity. He also said he helped fund that investigation. Why did he let all those people back in???
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 13, 2025, 09:11:48 PM
Those 25-30 people were targeted by Gural.  Here is another tidbit.  All Renee Allards owners are banned at Meadowlands.  Crawfords not even a blink with 3 trainers indicted and a 4th on the Fishman list.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: toothman on May 13, 2025, 10:00:13 PM
management and "powers that be" must be aware of our sports decline  and struggle to remain relevant.
Any kind of scandal of trainers, drugs, racing judges and officials or expose that the media could get a hold of would put the sport in the express lane to being history.
So their backs remained turned....
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 08:44:18 AM
management and "powers that be" must be aware of our sports decline  and struggle to remain relevant.
Any kind of scandal of trainers, drugs, racing judges and officials or expose that the media could get a hold of would put the sport in the express lane to being history.
So their backs remained turned....

Don't let their positions blind you, they're the one's who need to go.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 14, 2025, 09:20:46 AM
Don't let their positions blind you, they're the one's who need to go.

  You need to go child!   ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 14, 2025, 09:22:15 AM
management and "powers that be" must be aware of our sports decline  and struggle to remain relevant.
Any kind of scandal of trainers, drugs, racing judges and officials or expose that the media could get a hold of would put the sport in the express lane to being history.
So their backs remained turned....

Surely they are smarter than that, at least one would think so. Imagine all of this really getting out, with proof to the media. They themselves would be in scalding hot water for being complicit and trying to cover it up... They are not doing the Sport any favors in the slightest.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 09:35:23 AM
  You need to go child!   ngc3 ngc3

Ok, who's gonna make me? You?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 14, 2025, 09:59:23 AM
Ok, who's gonna make me? You?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
   No, not me. I enjoy tormenting your lazy, DUMBASS!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Gaagoots on May 14, 2025, 10:02:07 AM
   No, not me. I enjoy tormenting your lazy, DUMBASS!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
DITTO!
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 10:04:50 AM
   No, not me. I enjoy tormenting your lazy, DUMBASS!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Oh, nothing better to do after stalls are done??? Maybe sweep out the barn.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 14, 2025, 10:06:39 AM
DITTO!
   
      ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 10:23:46 AM
   
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So you're just a groom??? Hilarious.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 14, 2025, 10:58:49 AM
Ok, who's gonna make me? You?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


   No, you're like the class retard/clown that EVERYONE makes fun of!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 11:09:05 AM


   No, you're like the class retard/clown that EVERYONE makes fun of!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

And what have any of you accomplished from that? Same as you've done after you're finished cleaning horse shit. Nothing.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Stan durbread on May 14, 2025, 12:16:12 PM
Selective Justice at the Meadowlands: Why Are Some Drug Offenders Still Driving and Training?
If you’ve followed harness racing over the past few years, you know Jeff Gural has marketed himself as the sport’s anti-doping crusader. Yet a closer look reveals a glaring double standard: some trainers and drivers with known drug positives or federal investigations are still welcome at the Meadowlands — while others were permanently banned.

Let’s talk facts:
🚨 People Who Appeared in Federal Drug Lists — and Were BANNED by Gural:
•   Jenn Bongiorno – Banned, then miraculously unbanned.
•   Bob Bongiorno – Same story: banned, then quietly reinstated.
•   Scott DiDomenico, Jeff Gillis – Also named with Ethamsylate, a red-flag banned substance.
But here's the kicker: Gural reversed only the Bongiornos’ suspensions — no other names were reinstated.
🧾 Quote from Jeff Gural himself that exposes the bias:
“Problem is Bowden is a big supporter financially so I need to find out what he did. What a Yannick did was nothing new but with Surick makes it bad.”
— Jeff Gural (from email)
Let that sink in: decisions on banning individuals are influenced by financial support, not ethics or integrity. If you're a sponsor or a political ally of the Meadowlands, the rules suddenly bend.
 
🚨 Who's NOT Banned Despite Being Named or Closely Tied?
•   Jason Bartlett – Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Corey Callahan - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Jimmy Takter – Long-time trainer, never banned despite deep connections.
•   Nancy Takter – Actively training and racing.
•   Doug Dilloin Jr - Actively training and racing.
•   Linda Toscano, Andy Miller, Julie Miller – All still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   Wayne Chrebet – owner buying drugs for trainer Kevin McDermott who trains for Gural
•   CC Racing – Owned by Tim Tetrick who is HOF Driver at Meadowlands
•   John Fodera – Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Hatfield Stables - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Alan Katz  - Major owner of horses with Nancy Takter and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Jonathan Klee - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Billy Garafalo  - Major owner of horses with John Mcdermott and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Patrick Lachance - Regular driver, continues racing at top venues.
•   Let It Ride Stables (Eric Cherry) - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Dana Parham - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Brett Pelling - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.
•   J&T Silva - Major owner of horses and no business to be ordering from Fishman
•   Cory Stratton - still racing and untouched, despite the circles they operate in.

These names continue to appear on entry sheets and stake race programs — protected by silence, relationships, or money.  Remember these bills can’t be for work because Fishman never left his home in South Florida.  This was all for drugs.

The pattern is clear: if you're part of the Meadowlands "in crowd" or have deep political and financial ties, you skate. Everyone else? You’re expendable.
The Untouchables: How the Crawfords Walked Away Clean from the Biggest Doping Scandal in Harness Racing
In the aftermath of the largest doping scandal in the history of horse racing — one that saw federal indictments, lifetime bans, and widespread disgrace — there remains one name that somehow dodged every bullet: Albert and Michelle Crawford.

While smaller owners were tossed aside and reputations were destroyed, the Crawfords remain not only unscathed, but still front-and-center sponsors of The Meadowlands Pace — one of the sport’s premier events. And yet, they had horses with not one, not two, but three federally indicted trainers:
•   Nick Surick – the ringleader of the doping operation, who pled guilty to conspiracy charges.
•   Chris Oakes – hit with federal indictments for using illegal substances on racehorses.
•   Jorge Navarro – convicted and sentenced for running a long-term doping ring involving top-tier thoroughbreds.
•   And let’s not forget Jenn Bongiorno – featured on the federal Fishman drug distribution list, yet never even questioned publicly by the Meadowlands or the feds.
Despite that extensive web of association, the Crawfords were never suspended, questioned, or held accountable in any meaningful way. No scrutiny from Meadowlands management. No investigation from regulators. Nothing.
 
💰 Follow the Money: The Meadowlands' Convenient Blind Spot
Here’s where the conspiracy theory becomes less theory and more reality: the Crawfords are major sponsors of the Meadowlands Pace. Their money is everywhere — in stakes races, in advertising, in the backside relationships that oil the industry.

When Jeff Gural claims to be the sport’s watchdog, banning dozens of small-time trainers and owners tied to the scandal, it’s impossible not to notice this glaring double standard.
Why were owners with even minor ties to wrongdoing banned or shamed publicly, while the Crawfords — whose horses ran under the care of some of the dirtiest trainers in modern racing history — remain completely untouchable?
 
🧬 The Antonacci Angle: Hiding in Plain Sight
Even more disturbing is the presence of Chris Antonacci on the Fishman drug list — a name most casual fans wouldn’t think twice about. Why? Because Chris Antonacci doesn't even hold a racing license. Yet somehow, he was directly tied to the illegal distribution chain, and still, no questions asked, no accountability.
But his family? That’s another story. Frank Antonacci Sr. and Frank Jr. run one of the most powerful stables in harness racing. They’re major owners, major players, and major contributors to the Meadowlands. So here's the question no one in power seems willing to ask:

Why was Fishman delivering to your unlicensed brother? What were you trying to hide?
If integrity actually mattered, that alone would trigger an investigation. But just like with the Crawfords, money, influence, and proximity to the Meadowlands' inner circle has once again bought silence.
❓ What about Meadowlands Integrity?
The Meadowlands touts itself as a “clean racing” environment, yet their enforcement of rules is selective at best — politically motivated at worst. When sponsors and financial contributors get treated differently than average trainers or owners, it’s not integrity — it’s favoritism.
 
📢 Time for Transparency
•   Why were the Bongiornos the only ones reinstated?
•   Why is Gural still allowing people on federal drug lists to race?
•   Why are fans and bettors misled into thinking it’s a level playing field?

The truth: Meadowlands bans who it wants, when it wants — depending on your checkbook, not your record.
Interesting read. Sadly it shows how little you know about the industry. First off Fishman was a licensed vet and distributor. He sold plenty of legitimate products as well as the PED’s. Several of the people in the list were billed for completely legal medical supplies. Several are employed by breeding farms so no need to have any licenses or USTA membership. The owners on the list were billed for medication that was ordered by their trainers, just because an owner gets billed doesn’t mean they ordered something. Some owners I’m sure knew what was going on but others probably had no clue what any of the abbreviations on the invoices meant.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 14, 2025, 12:37:12 PM


   No, you're like the class retard/clown that EVERYONE makes fun of!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
SON DONT MAKE GROUND YOU!
 LOVE DAD
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Parked on May 14, 2025, 01:19:23 PM
Interesting read. Sadly it shows how little you know about the industry. First off Fishman was a licensed vet and distributor. He sold plenty of legitimate products as well as the PED’s. Several of the people in the list were billed for completely legal medical supplies. Several are employed by breeding farms so no need to have any licenses or USTA membership. The owners on the list were billed for medication that was ordered by their trainers, just because an owner gets billed doesn’t mean they ordered something. Some owners I’m sure knew what was going on but others probably had no clue what any of the abbreviations on the invoices meant.

You don’t go to a liquor store to buy bitters or a jar of cherries.   
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 14, 2025, 01:30:58 PM
Interesting read. Sadly it shows how little you know about the industry. First off Fishman was a licensed vet and distributor. He sold plenty of legitimate products as well as the PED’s. Several of the people in the list were billed for completely legal medical supplies. Several are employed by breeding farms so no need to have any licenses or USTA membership. The owners on the list were billed for medication that was ordered by their trainers, just because an owner gets billed doesn’t mean they ordered something. Some owners I’m sure knew what was going on but others probably had no clue what any of the abbreviations on the invoices meant.

Howard Taylor received his Equestology invoices directly delivered to his office. Included on those invoices were the purchase of BB3. Additionally Seth Fishman testified only top tier clients were billed directly. Would you like to see an invoice? Itemized for each horse and partners too!
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Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 14, 2025, 10:48:29 PM
how many times do you tink fishman just sent these assholes saline?  lol assholes. i know it happened a lot.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 15, 2025, 12:56:17 AM
Interesting read. Sadly it shows how little you know about the industry. First off Fishman was a licensed vet and distributor. He sold plenty of legitimate products as well as the PED’s. Several of the people in the list were billed for completely legal medical supplies. Several are employed by breeding farms so no need to have any licenses or USTA membership. The owners on the list were billed for medication that was ordered by their trainers, just because an owner gets billed doesn’t mean they ordered something. Some owners I’m sure knew what was going on but others probably had no clue what any of the abbreviations on the invoices meant.

Yea I would very much agree that it makes perfect sense to purchase "normal" vitamins and supplements from Fishman to have them shipped all the way from Florida to NJ where I can get from the local vet.  Your right I know nothing and very much agree that as an owner I would seek to buy my vitamins / supplements from a vet who by the way never even seen my horse or worked on it physically to send me things that were routine items for any vet in the NJ area.   tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: OF JENNY on May 15, 2025, 08:05:50 AM
fishman also knew who got the real bottles and who got the placebos. he then would gamble through the windows making far maore than he was charging.
he was fixing races from outside the fence.
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: darnoldrocks on May 15, 2025, 08:33:21 AM
"Yea I would very much agree that it makes perfect sense to purchase "normal" vitamins and supplements from Fishman to have them shipped all the way from Florida to NJ where I can get from the local vet.  Your right I know nothing and very much agree that as an owner I would seek to buy my vitamins / supplements from a vet who by the way never even seen my horse or worked on it physically to send me things that were routine items for any vet in the NJ area." 

Exactly C N S
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 15, 2025, 09:02:35 AM
So you're just a groom??? Hilarious.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

    Just a groom?  You look down on people that are employed unlike you? Do you have any clue how many successful trainers, drivers, and owners started out as grooms? You should be ashamed of yourself immature scumbag!  73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Stan durbread on May 15, 2025, 08:47:54 PM
Yea I would very much agree that it makes perfect sense to purchase "normal" vitamins and supplements from Fishman to have them shipped all the way from Florida to NJ where I can get from the local vet.  Your right I know nothing and very much agree that as an owner I would seek to buy my vitamins / supplements from a vet who by the way never even seen my horse or worked on it physically to send me things that were routine items for any vet in the NJ area.   tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
So you buy everything from the local tack shop and not Big Dee’s?  Local stores never from Amazon??
Title: Re: HARNESS RACINGS TRUTHS AND SECRETS
Post by: Chips N Salsa on May 15, 2025, 09:47:32 PM
So you buy everything from the local tack shop and not Big Dee’s?  Local stores never from Amazon??

Last time I checked Big D's doesn't sell injectable vitamins and supplements...... Next??????
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