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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Calhoun on April 29, 2025, 03:37:08 AM
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Derby:
https://production-picks-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2025/04/kentucky-derby-25.pdf
Oaks:
https://production-picks-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2025/04/kentucky-oaks-25.pdf
Links to PPs for the rest of Friday/Saturday Stakes races:
https://www.horseracingnation.com/content/free_past_performances_pps
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Thanks Calhoun!
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And the winner is ? Let’s go
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Winner is probably Journalism. I know going out on a limb with the favorite lol... but he looks much the best. Sovereignty drew post 18 which is probably his best competition. I also really like the Japanese horse #7 Luxor Cafe.
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Citizen Bull upsets them all.
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Does anyone like Burnham Square ??
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Will Griffin Johnson's 33 million followers have any effect on Sandman's win odds? He's the logical 3rd choice with that wicked kick especially if he can keep himself straight down the lane. Post 17 has to win sooner or later.
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Whenever there's a big dance and I don't have a real rooting interest, I find myself rooting for the underdog, great story, etc. How amazing would it be for Wayne Lukas to win another Derby. He's what, 89 or 90 years old?!?! LOL. I also see Baffert is now down to two horses in the Derby. After his suspension from CD, I guess it would be a twisted fate of irony if he won. LOL. Steve Asmussen is still chasing his first Derby. I haven't looked over the field yet and didn't really follow a lot of the preps. Looking forward to the most exciting two minutes in sports!
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It's called the most exciting two minutes in sports, only if you have the winner!
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It will be a show place and thrilling to watch, especially with all the people. It’s a shame what happened to our industry. journalism will be tough to beat.
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Always thought having 20 horses is too many, creates alot of traffic problems. Of the 20 horses, at least half of them have little or no chance of winning. You almost always get a fast pace, so a horse like Journalism needs to avoid traffic problems when he's making his run.
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Thank you$$$$ Journalism
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The points system itself is debatable. Yes, field size has been debatable as well. With a 20 horse field, I think the random draw is an issue. Why not let the horses with the most points choose their post position? Or at least, why not let them choose from a block of post positions, 1 thru 5, 6 thru 10, etc., and let the actual post position be random within that block?
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Thank you$$$$ Journalism
When too many people pick the same horse like Journalism, it's like the kiss of the death and the horse rarely wins.
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Will Griffin Johnson's 33 million followers have any effect on Sandman's win odds? He's the logical 3rd choice with that wicked kick especially if he can keep himself straight down the lane. Post 17 has to win sooner or later.
Definitely a possibility, but with pools like that I doubt it will show. Looks like a lot of very under qualified horses this year. Journalism is clearly the best, but we know that doesn’t mean anything in the derby. Horse just coming into form always scary. I’m going to try GRANDE and Velasquez on to win and box exacta with Journalism.
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Journalism won't be in a 5 or 6 horse field this week. I'm going with #18 Sovereignty.
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3 Final Gambit
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Going with Sandman. Looks like he has as good of a turn of foot as any of them, raced green in his last 2. Hopefully takes a step forward if he runs a little straighter. I like Sovereignty with him, Mott can get them to peak at the right time. The old 17-18 exacta.
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Just bumping this to page one for Friday. ;D
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#4 Rodriguz scratched
#21 Baeza draws in
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#4 Rodriguz scratched
#21 Baeza draws in
Grande scratched also
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How about a little love for the Japanese horse #7 Luxor Cafe? Good chance of rain tomorrow and Luxor has 3 wins and a second in 4 off-track starts. Draws well and just like the #17 post will win one of these days, so will a Japanese horse win the Derby!
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if burke had one in the race do you think he could win?
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Do you think if you think real hard , you could come up with a more lame question? 11.wp
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Does anyone like Burnham Square ??
He has a shot but I'm trying Sovereignty
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They are big in the horse that got in due to the scratch tomorrow. Baeza is coming into form at the right time. I’m now going to bet him to win, box with journalism. Most likely another derby day donation for me. ngc3
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Sovereignty/Journalism/Baeza the old 18/8/21 Triple Box
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#7 Luxor Cafe
7/17 exacta box
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7&8 exacta box and 1&7&8 Trifeca box.. still deciding which horse to throw into a super box
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Marty Garcia finally gets his Derby win on #1 Citizen Bull.
Should be on or near the lead and breeding says he can handle the off-track.
And of course Bobby Bobblehead gets in the spotlight by winning his record breaking seventh Derby.
Boxing 1/12/16 in ex. and tri.
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Can't see a rail horse, You have to burn like crazy or you will get buried. This isn't a mile and 1/16.
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When they have the post-position draw where the trainers choose their post, they avoid the inside posts like the plague.
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When they have the post-position draw where the trainers choose their post, they avoid the inside posts like the plague.
WTF,,,Put down the pipe!
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WTF,,,Put down the pipe!
I don't smoke and have watched the PP draw show many years and the trainers would prefer a post somewhere in the middle.
If it came down to PP1 or PP 15, the majority would take 15 because they're afraid of the rail and getting shuffled back. This isn't like harness racing.
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If it had been a mile, the one horse would have been ok, but I think he's still running. ;D
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Sovereignty/Journalism/Baeza the old 18/8/21 Triple Box
Excellent tmbz1 tmbz1
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When they have the post-position draw where the trainers choose their post, they avoid the inside posts like the plague.
in 2008....trainer Rick Dutrow intentionally chose post #20
he won easily with Big Brown
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Sovereignty/Journalism/Baeza the old 18/8/21 Triple Box
Excellent call! Hope you hit it big!