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Title: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Inside The Track on April 20, 2025, 10:20:24 AM
Buffalo Raceway saw another new low. Dave Mcneight Jr. Banned from most jurisdictions claims his brothers' sons only horse. This lowlife horse abuser drug trainer shows what a classless act he really is. But Buffalo lets this lowlife train here.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: The Unstable on April 20, 2025, 10:23:27 AM
It’s a fake claim as they probably were or thought other claims would be on this horse.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: LUCPARK on April 20, 2025, 11:12:45 AM
It’s a fake claim as they probably were or thought other claims would be on this horse.
tmbz1
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Raging pace on April 20, 2025, 12:49:27 PM
It actually isn’t Dave McNeight jr that claimed him. It’s his owners that he trains for that claimed him. You are right though, that piece of shit should be banned for life and not allowed near a horse. But then again Batavia and Buffalo let all kinds of drug using lowlifes race there. Petrelli, McDonough, clouser, 500 lb Sam smith, rice, brandstatter / hall, Dave Russo, kiblin. Only handful of honest drivers and trainers.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dingus on April 20, 2025, 12:52:44 PM
Buffalo Raceway saw another new low. Dave Mcneight Jr. Banned from most jurisdictions claims his brothers' sons only horse. This lowlife horse abuser drug trainer shows what a classless act he really is. But Buffalo lets this lowlife train here.

I remember when he was banned from the Meadows for putting EPM into several of his horses.
Then he put them on ongait and dumped those poor things on unsuspecting owners.  I don’t think either 1 of them ever ran good again.
If I ever saw him in person, I’d spit in his face.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: White Rabbit on April 20, 2025, 01:43:39 PM
He had and incident in the barn area over at Meadows a few years ago, if I hadn’t been in the barn area that morning I wouldn’t have believed it, but PAC showed up to search him and he jumped in his truck and drove off the grounds and no search. Never seen anything like it
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: kantseeback on April 20, 2025, 04:56:45 PM
His brothers son would be his nephew.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness racer on April 20, 2025, 05:32:28 PM
His brothers son would be his nephew.

I was thinking the same thing.  Dumb asses!   ngc3
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Stan durbread on April 20, 2025, 06:36:38 PM
I remember when he was banned from the Meadows for putting EPM into several of his horses.
Then he put them on ongait and dumped those poor things on unsuspecting owners.  I don’t think either 1 of them ever ran good again.
If I ever saw him in person, I’d spit in his face.
How do give a horse EPM?  Most trainers try to keep that shit out of their horses
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Lar4400 on April 20, 2025, 06:46:07 PM
Is Andrew Torre Steve Torres brother from back at the bid m early 80’s.
Steve raced a good one called inner sanctum at big m back then.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: The Unstable on April 20, 2025, 07:43:04 PM
How do give a horse EPM?  Most trainers try to keep that shit out of their horses

I think he meant EPO
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dingus on April 21, 2025, 12:54:19 AM
I think he meant EPO

Yes, lol, typo.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: batavia24 on April 21, 2025, 09:59:27 AM
Ive made mistakes in my many yrs But employing that guy was by far#1
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: drawbar on April 21, 2025, 01:14:35 PM
Good luck with this horse.  Extremely talented however Constantly run off the track. Ran off the track at mohawk all the way into the parking lot and was banned.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: talkstohisself on May 03, 2025, 06:13:20 PM
runs off and hides today for new connections must be the new shoes
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: White Rabbit on May 03, 2025, 06:15:51 PM
I see why the conversation over this  claim, not so much the family ties ,
So is D.Mcneight Jr that good and J . Mcneight Sr that bad or vice versus.
What wil the reaction be from the owner from Florida that owns horse with Tortello and D. McNieght Sr trains horse for him too and parked his horse today
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Raging pace on May 03, 2025, 06:20:10 PM
I remember when Jim graham had this horse as a yearling, he couldn’t do anything with it. It is a nice fast horse but dont be surprised if trainer Dave McNeight jr gave him alittle high octane fuel, he’s no stranger to juicing the horses !
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 03, 2025, 07:21:27 PM
Holy crap are they Petrelli's????  ngc3
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Raging pace on May 03, 2025, 07:23:35 PM
Yeah no shit !
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Inside The Track on May 03, 2025, 07:51:01 PM
Dave is nothing but a big-time juicer. Triple sticks much better driver than Jim. Father couldn't drive neither can his son.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: talkstohisself on May 03, 2025, 08:35:32 PM
dave jr makes it easier  when he hits the vein  tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Tree Trunk on May 04, 2025, 01:33:19 PM
Buffalo Raceway saw another new low. Dave Mcneight Jr. Banned from most jurisdictions claims his brothers' sons only horse. This lowlife horse abuser drug trainer shows what a classless act he really is. But Buffalo lets this lowlife train here.


The horse was in for the tag  tmbz1
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: drawbar on May 06, 2025, 02:38:49 PM
Track was at least 2 seconds off as well. Amazing what a good trainer can do in only a week
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: right way on May 06, 2025, 03:00:24 PM
Track was at least 2 seconds off as well. Amazing what a good trainer can do in only a week
You mean a good tool box . Let’s not all forget Dave Mcneight’s JR got epo positives at the Meadows , commission came to search his barn he fled the barn running out of it with the tool box of his blast  jumped in his truck about ran over two of the commission people and left the track destroying the gate at the entrance.  How he got his license back means he must be a little snitch . All his horses are good for a handful of starts then can’t beat a fat man. This horse has packed it in for multi trainers when horses are parked on outside of him now he sets a lifetime mark on off track with a horse parked 3/4 of the mile at him ?? he’s not a better trainer just a better blast
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Raging pace on May 06, 2025, 03:58:17 PM
Clouser, McDonough, petrelli, brandstater, kiblin, bratt, smith, Ryan,dahn and couple more, all working out of same tool box !
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: talkstohisself on May 06, 2025, 04:23:24 PM
I can name at least five horses that  dave jr ruined the guy can't see his reflection in a mirror  HAS NO SOUL
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Tree Trunk on May 06, 2025, 05:24:34 PM
You mean a good tool box . Let’s not all forget Dave Mcneight’s JR got epo positives at the Meadows , commission came to search his barn he fled the barn running out of it with the tool box of his blast  jumped in his truck about ran over two of the commission people and left the track destroying the gate at the entrance.  How he got his license back means he must be a little snitch . All his horses are good for a handful of starts then can’t beat a fat man. This horse has packed it in for multi trainers when horses are parked on outside of him now he sets a lifetime mark on off track with a horse parked 3/4 of the mile at him ?? he’s not a better trainer just a better blast


At least tell the truth when telling a “ story “. McNeight didn’t “ run over “ 2 people from the commission.  73cv.2 ngc3
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dingus on May 06, 2025, 05:36:28 PM
I can name at least five horses that  dave jr ruined the guy can't see his reflection in a mirror  HAS NO SOUL

I remember 2 from the Meadows- Naturally Bad and Musclehead Andy.  EPO’d to the gills.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 06, 2025, 05:38:18 PM
Dave trains at Peter Arrigennas farm track and pumps his horses with EPO! 
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dingus on May 06, 2025, 05:38:39 PM


At least tell the truth when telling a “ story “. McNeight didn’t “ run over “ 2 people from the commission.  73cv.2 ngc3

04/26/2019   IR   REFUSAL OF AUTHORITIES TO CONDUCT A SEARCH OF BARN AREA OR VEHICLE

PA Code Title 58-183.255(1,6,14),183.332,183.342,183.344. Mr. McNeight failed to cooperate with a search conducted by Commission Investigators of his barn at The Meadows on April 17, 2019. During the search, he removed an item from the barn without allowing the item to be searched, fled the scene, and in doing so, put the personal safety of a Commission Investigator in jeopardy. This is conduct detrimental to the best interest of racing. Mr. McNeight is hereby fined $5,000 and issued a 730 day full suspension of his license, less 8 days served during summary suspension, 722 days remaining beginning 5/7/19 through and including 4/27/21. During the term of suspension, Mr. McNeight is banned from all racing activities otherwise permitted if properly licensed by the Commission, and is ruled off all grounds under the jurisdiction of the PSHRC. Any trainer transfers must be approved by the Judges at The Meadows. The fine and any appeal to the PSHRC is due within 10 days of this ruling.   Fined: $ 5,000
Full - 722 days 05/07/2019 thru 04/27/2021
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dave McNeight Jr on May 06, 2025, 05:58:11 PM
Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: talkstohisself on May 06, 2025, 06:17:18 PM
I am not howard read my post  I  talk about two people on this forum u and trump let's talk about the race were you had your boy parked the other horse  the one that did the parking came back welted up u want around bragging how u know how to get even with people so stick that in your toolbox ngc3 ngc3 ngc3  ps I met your son  very nice kid,  but the bible says you pay for the sins of your father.
Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: batavia24 on May 06, 2025, 06:26:42 PM
Just got a call from a trainer at the track Their laughing so hard their in tears Thanks for the comedy All lies as usual When we stiffed you well deserved at the time We begged you to sue us so we could have our day in court But you didn't for some reason How about the time the judges were going to scratch all your horses on a Friday night at Buffalo I had to run you $5000 so you could pay them for the workmen comp you owed How come we always had to go up to your fathers bar and pay the train bill 2 weeks early? Im not smart enough to have multi screen names BATAVIA24 THATS IT MY FRIEND YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE TRACK AND ON THIS SITE THAT KNOW YOU LIKE A BOOK NOBODY LIKES YOU SIR AND ME I WEAR AS A BADGE OF HONOR THAT IM NOT LIKE BY THE NO GOODS LETS HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH MANGO AND SEE HOW YOU GET HYSTERICAL HAHA BATAVIA24 THATS ME 235 HUBBELL RD SPENCERPORT NY14559 See what a beautiful farm looks like Something a person like you can never have cLL ME ANYTIME 585 2818039
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 06, 2025, 06:39:12 PM
Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..
 

  Oh boy Daves here! Please tell everyone the inside story of trying to runover the Meadows drug investigators. 
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dave McNeight Jr on May 06, 2025, 06:46:43 PM
I am not howard read my post  I  talk about two people on this forum u and trump let's talk about the race were you had your boy parked the other horse  the one that did the parking came back welted up u want around bragging how u know how to get even with people so stick that in your toolbox ngc3 ngc3 ngc3  ps I met your son  very nice kid,  but the bible says you pay for the sins of your father.

Amazing person you are, you want to talk about this race in particular. This race was 10 years ago and it was the one that sent Howard Oriel over the edge. Ill be happy to talk about it. Howard had two horses in the same race, the one i trained had the rail, was the fav, the other one was long. Howard INSTUCTED ME to tell my driver to let his horse go in the first turn. GTFOH, lol, his one horse parked his other one. I was told the scene in the clubhouse was one for the books. Then howard pulled all his horses. At least he didnt run me over with his car, driving like a maniac like one of his many other previous trainers... funny Mr. " IM NOT  HOWARD " that you would pick this race to talk about...
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: batavia24 on May 06, 2025, 06:58:38 PM
Hey Dave once again your 3rd grade education is showing Its not that crazy that a lot of people despise you Know for a fact the 3 people that were in charge of racing a few yrs back at Batavia couldn't stand your constant shit What happened that day at the Meadows anyway?You always side step that one Drawbar raging pace inside the track Dingus Talkintohisself Foalin at 4 Iwish they were me because they are much smarter than my KSU education Hey big congrats on your claim you should take him to Yonkers and race for 35K against Engblom Alexander Burke Davita All your mentors You da man Dave Heard the lawyer and Jack and Maria are wondering how you do it hahaha
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: batavia24 on May 06, 2025, 07:02:14 PM
hey Dave call me 5852818039 Have to concentrate on my Cavs tonite thanks friend a
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness racer on May 06, 2025, 07:14:47 PM
Who the fuck is David McNeight Jr?
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: right way on May 06, 2025, 08:41:45 PM
Who the fuck is David McNeight Jr?
Small track no one that is only as good as his gas in his tool box
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Tree Trunk on May 06, 2025, 10:17:06 PM
Bunch of sour fuckers you guys are eh ? I hope Davey Day Trader runs off the screen and wins in 52 next week.  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness racer on May 07, 2025, 07:37:36 AM
He looked damn good in his last start.  I don't really follow that circuit, how does the son rate as a driver?  Drove him with a lot of confidence last start.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Foalin at 4 on May 07, 2025, 09:41:53 AM
He looked damn good in his last start.  I don't really follow that circuit, how does the son rate as a driver?  Drove him with a lot of confidence last start.

   It's pretty easy to drive with confidence when daddy filled the vein with EPO!
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness racer on May 07, 2025, 09:49:14 AM
   It's pretty easy to drive with confidence when daddy filled the vein with EPO!

Definitely looked strong...but that's quite an accusation.  Dave Jr., any rebuttal?
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dingus on May 07, 2025, 01:20:45 PM
Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..

Are you going to return the money you got from Arlene Cameron and Dirk Simpson for those 2 unfortunate horses that you loaded up with EPO and then sold?  I don’t believe either of those horses lasted more than a month before they had to be retired.  I’m talking about Musclehead Andy and Naturally Bad.  You should have been suspended for life rather than 2 years.
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Dave McNeight Jr on May 07, 2025, 07:02:15 PM
Dingus, dingus, dingus..who the hell could you be..Naturally Bad was a sulking, shadow jumper that i bought off dean collins for 2500, i bought him because he could leave with the car. I raced him out of the field for 3or 4 starts and Dave was able to win with him. I put him and musclehead andy on eharness. I got a call from dirks owner wanting to but the horse. I would not sell him the horse without talking to dirk first. Dirk wanted him even though i told him the horse needed a B track. Imo he would not due at the meadows and he only won a couple dummy claimers for me.. he bought him anyway.musclehead andy i ended up amishing for enough money that would assure the horse would not end up in a kill pen..so maybe you bought him off the amish, Dan Miller to be precise. This is all verifiable, and i adressed this in 2019 when you were whining about it before. I cant help it that you are bad at this business. You also threatened to spit in my face. Easy to mouth off under an anonymous name. This is quite the cast of characters on this forum. Im done answering questions to cowards who hide behind anonymous names. Now if youll excuse me, i have to get back to the conclave. There are no phones allowed there and there waiting for my vote..
Title: Re: Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse
Post by: Harness racer on May 07, 2025, 07:51:03 PM
Meadows is an “A” track?   ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
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