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Title: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: goblue on April 19, 2025, 12:29:19 PM
Do we think Fairmont will purchase and continue to operate some/all of Hawthorne's 12 OTBs?

Fairmont already owns 3 OTBs in southern IL

When Arlington was shut down, Hawthorne bought their OTBs, keeping the one in my hometown open. It would be a shame if all of them closed this time around.



Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: Papillon on April 19, 2025, 12:38:44 PM
Do we think Fairmont will purchase and continue to operate some/all of Hawthorne's 12 OTBs?

Fairmont already owns 3 OTBs in southern IL

When Arlington was shut down, Hawthorne bought their OTBs, keeping the one in my hometown open. It would be a shame if all of them closed this time around.


probably not

its FanDuel-they want bettors using the FD racing app so i dont see them wanting any OTBs other than to sell them


Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: The Exporter on April 19, 2025, 12:41:24 PM
Brick and mortar OTBs are almost obsolete.
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: Dr. O on April 19, 2025, 12:53:16 PM
Is there anywhere to bet the Kentucky derby in Illinois this year?  Hawthorne not taking action on Churchill.
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: The Doctor on April 19, 2025, 12:54:00 PM
Brick and mortar OTBs are almost obsolete.

The two near me in Illinois always have full parking lots.
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: LUCPARK on April 19, 2025, 10:15:17 PM
Is there anywhere to bet the Kentucky derby in Illinois this year?  Hawthorne not taking action on Churchill.
 


ITS FUCKIN EMBARRESSING THE LOST THE FEED TO ALL CHURCHILL DOWNS TRACKS   THEY  STIFFED PAY FOR THEIR FEEDS   ATJHOREN IS IN DEBT UP TO THEIR NECKS ,,AND THEY OWE EVERYONE IMAGINABLE   FACT

TIM CAREY IS A FCKIN CLOWN BY NOW EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: carl baldwin on April 20, 2025, 02:37:18 PM
Is there anywhere to bet the Kentucky derby in Illinois this year?  Hawthorne not taking action on Churchill.
I was told by Oakbrook OTB manager customers can bet on Android using Expressbet and watch Fanduel feed.
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: Dr. O on April 21, 2025, 12:00:38 AM
That’s great.  Pretty sure the end is near.  Biggest wagering weekend of the year and no action in Illinois.
Title: Re: When Hawthorne inevitably closes...
Post by: Alydar on April 21, 2025, 12:16:27 PM
Fairmount Park would certainly like to have more Otb's. Currently the state law restricts a racetrack from having a location farther from 160 miles from the track. So they are shut out from Chicago area. They are looking at several locations in Southern Illinois.  There is an amendment bill filed in the Senate to eliminate the mileage restriction, but it is so difficult to get anything passed in the Illinois legislature.
The tracks make a profit from the off track locations and more than anything you get about 7% of the handle that goes into purses, so better purses means better horses which improves the product for the track.  It's basically the only thing keeping Hawthorne in business.
How the Illinois Racing Board allows them to continue when they can't even pay their bills for the live feed shows the total dysfuntion that the Board has become.
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