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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: bello on April 06, 2025, 12:35:23 PM
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I will admit to having 10 dollar dd with the 1 and 4 race rACE 2 AT sARATOGA. They were both locks to win. One or the other. As well as staying live in the P5
In typical asshole Bailey form. he is 56-1 from Post 3. First he runs Beckwith down fome the rail, then he cuts the 4 off in the pocket and forces him to break.
Bailey Fuck You!
I rarely get upset about losing, but when someone purposely affect the outcome of a race....
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That may have been the worse drive I've ever seen. Why would a 40-1 shot delay leaving to challenge the co-favorite for the lead?
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That may have been the worse drive I've ever seen. Why would a 40-1 shot delay leaving to challenge the co-favorite for the lead?
every drive he gives is the worst fucking drive
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I cant fucking stand watching him. Is Saratoga that pathetic that he gets more than one drive a card? How has someone not hospitalized this fucking non driving cunt yet? Leon do us all a favor tonight when you home start a 🔥 and place your colors and i mean every single set of them in the fire 🔥. Thank you! From all of harness racing.
Sad thing is this retard destroys Vernon wins 7 or 8 on a card. Pathetic.
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How does the guy have 1000 career wins?
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How does the guy have 1000 career wins?
great question that none of us in this entire business can answer !
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I know it won't happen, but if the judges called him in about his drive in the 2nd race, what could he possibly say he was thinking, other than I'm a stupid idiot.
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He’s entertaining
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I just watched the replay of R2 at Saratoga.
What dangerous driving!
but i think there's enough blame to go around.
Devaux at even money was so intent on closing the hole that Bailey way too late decided to take that Devaux drove his horse into Bailey.
They should both ride the pine for a while and get their checkbooks out.
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Jimmy saw Leon was coming down and made sure to drive up in the hole. I actually think they were both at fault. Leon at least drives to win, but he is not well liked and gets zero favors. Any other drive Jimmy lets him in the hole.
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I just watched the replay of R2 at Saratoga.
What dangerous driving!
but i think there's enough blame to go around.
Devaux at even money was so intent on closing the hole that Bailey way too late decided to take that Devaux drove his horse into Bailey.
They should both ride the pine for a while and get their checkbooks out.
Devaux gave a horrible drive too, what was he thinking trying to follow Bailey's horse?
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Jackie could have driven better
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You spelled Per Engblom wrong in your post title...
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You spelled Per Engblom wrong in your post title...
Per is the definition of what's wrong with harness racing. Bailey is just a no talent moron. tmbz1
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Jimmy saw Leon was coming down and made sure to drive up in the hole. I actually think they were both at fault. Leon at least drives to win, but he is not well liked and gets zero favors. Any other drive Jimmy lets him in the hole.
tmbz1
Well said tmbz1
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Jimmy saw Leon was coming down and made sure to drive up in the hole. I actually think they were both at fault. Leon at least drives to win, but he is not well liked and gets zero favors. Any other drive Jimmy lets him in the hole.
At the end of the day leon didn't have the proper room. But alot of them drive very wrecklessly especially into the first turn when they are cowboying them things out of there.
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Jimmy saw Leon was coming down and made sure to drive up in the hole. I actually think they were both at fault. Leon at least drives to win, but he is not well liked and gets zero favors. Any other drive Jimmy lets him in the hole.
You call that driving to win. You are funny. And Jimmy D had every right to the pocket
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It was hard to see but at start Bailey and Devauxhad a moment..was it a hooked wheel to start or a disagreement..it only got worse after that Bailey accelerating the 55-1 into first turn under Devaux.
A wild and so dangerous display
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Vernon will be open soon and Leon will get listed on a lot of the better horses to choose from. Then he can go out and flap his arms and elbows as he wins by as many lengths as he can showboating. He really thinks it’s all about him.
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He has 1000 wins. Most are at Vernon, where all the top drivers left years ago. Not impressed at all when I watch him drive at the Big M and Stg.
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He has 1000 wins. Most are at Vernon, where all the top drivers left years ago. Not impressed at all when I watch him drive at the Big M and Stg.
I dont know how the whole colony at Saratoga hasn't knocked him around in the locker room. I've never seen one guy drive like a bone head everyday. 30 40 40 60 to 1 and sends them things running guys 26 an 27 quarters. He drove a little smarter after that race he must of got a serous ass chewing after that. I don't know how Saratoga doesn't have more terrible wrecks. These guys send these things 3 an 4 wide into the first turn knocking and slashing and not a one has a tight line on a horse! I cringe watching them barrell into the first turn daily
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You call that driving to win. You are funny. And Jimmy D had every right to the pocket
You obviously don’t like Leon as I looked back at your posts. Jimmy drove up to close the hole where if that was Beckwith or Randall he would automatically give.
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You obviously don’t like Leon as I looked back at your posts. Jimmy drove up to close the hole where if that was Beckwith or Randall he would automatically give.
I agree with you. But in my opinion Leon driving like an asshole at 100 to 1 is why he's "hated" and gets no "favors"
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You obviously don’t like Leon as I looked back at your posts. Jimmy drove up to close the hole where if that was Beckwith or Randall he would automatically give.
I obviously don't like that piece of shit. And while you are looking at my previous posts, each time I posted against him he ran down the favorite with longshots that could not win while refusing tucks. That is called race fixing.
Not that you would know because clearly you don't know how to watch a race.
Notice I don't complain about drivers. I accept my loses as part of the game. He is the only one, along with Tyler Miller I have openly complained about and Tyler just makes many mistakes. Leon is a criminal and he will get someone hurt trying to bring his numbers home.
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I obviously don't like that piece of shit. And while you are looking at my previous posts, each time I posted against him he ran down the favorite with longshots that could not win while refusing tucks. That is called race fixing.
Not that you would know because clearly you don't know how to watch a race.
Notice I don't complain about drivers. I accept my loses as part of the game. He is the only one, along with Tyler Miller I have openly complained about and Tyler just makes many mistakes. Leon is a criminal and he will get someone hurt trying to bring his numbers home.
I think Leon is a very retarded driver and dangerous. But I don't think he's betting. I definitely don't think he's smart enough to set up races. He's a brain dead hillbilly who is a pathetic excuse of a driver. I think being late 30s or 40 whatever he is and just hitting 1000 wins tells the story. What is really scary is the idiot gets drives.
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I think Leon is a very retarded driver and dangerous. But I don't think he's betting. I definitely don't think he's smart enough to set up races. He's a brain dead hillbilly who is a pathetic excuse of a driver. I think being late 30s or 40 whatever he is and just hitting 1000 wins tells the story. What is really scary is the idiot gets drives.
It seems as if he is taking an envelope to run down favorites. It occurs with too much regularity. That takes no brains.
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That takes no brains.
He certainly qualifies by that standard! ngc3
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REMINDS ME OF RAAAAAAACEWAAAAAA AY PARRRRRRK
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He certainly qualifies by that standard! ngc3
I dont think he has a brain in his head!
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You obviously don’t like Leon as I looked back at your posts. Jimmy drove up to close the hole where if that was Beckwith or Randall he would automatically give.
Jimmy didn't want to give him the hole and drove on to close it, but he didnt get there in time and nearly caused a bad accident.
He had the last chance to avoid it and didn't exercise it. Like cars. He would have been at fault.
With Hunter's passing just recently, drivers should be MORE CAREFUL!
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Jimmy didn't want to give him the hole and drove on to close it, but he didnt get there in time and nearly caused a bad accident.
He had the last chance to avoid it and didn't exercise it. Like cars. He would have been at fault.
With Hunter's passing just recently, drivers should be MORE CAREFUL!
Jimmy was even money and Brett was 6-5. Why would Jimmy give up the two hole to Leon who is 60-1. Leon never had sufficient room to get in. If you had half a brain you'd read the charted line on Leon's horse stating clearly D X. which stands for driver break you know meaning Leon's fault when he ran over Brett's wheel. Leon couldn't drive a hard cock into a wet cunt. What is even worse is this was a horse trained by his wife. People spend their hard earned money on these horses and guys like Leon are driving like assholes. Do we not remember what just happened to a poor young man at the meadows? Come on guys smarten the fuck up. If I was the judge at Saratoga there would be a mandatory drivers meeting tomorrow before the races. Everyone would be told that shit that happened in the second race better not happen again or whoever is involved will be set down with a nice reckless driving suspension. Time to smarten the fuck up Leon! Don't driving like a complete fucking idiot
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Vernon will be open soon and Leon will get listed on a lot of the better horses to choose from. Then he can go out and flap his arms and elbows as he wins by as many lengths as he can showboating. He really thinks it’s all about him.
FYI, Vernon races Friday and Saturday nights while Saratoga races Sunday thru Wednesday!
He’ll still be at Saratoga to make a living!!
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Jimmy was even money and Brett was 6-5. Why would Jimmy give up the two hole to Leon who is 60-1. Leon never had sufficient room to get in. If you had half a brain you'd read the charted line on Leon's horse stating clearly D X. which stands for driver break you know meaning Leon's fault when he ran over Brett's wheel. Leon couldn't drive a hard cock into a wet cunt. What is even worse is this was a horse trained by his wife. People spend their hard earned money on these horses and guys like Leon are driving like assholes. Do we not remember what just happened to a poor young man at the meadows? Come on guys smarten the fuck up. If I was the judge at Saratoga there would be a mandatory drivers meeting tomorrow before the races. Everyone would be told that shit that happened in the second race better not happen again or whoever is involved will be set down with a nice reckless driving suspension. Time to smarten the fuck up Leon! Don't driving like a complete fucking idiot
You do know the judges there hate Leon and banned hin after incident with Cushing last year. Are you telling me because he is 60/1 he is not allowed a hole but if he was 2/1 he does. It looked like to me Jimmy sped up to close the hole and a few other posters agreed with me. I think they were both at fault.
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"Jimmy was even money and Brett was 6-5. Why would Jimmy give up the two hole to Leon who is 60-1. Leon never had sufficient room to get in. If you had half a brain you'd read the charted line on Leon's horse stating clearly D X. which stands for driver break you know meaning Leon's fault when he ran over Brett's wheel."
I have no dog in this fight.
I dont need charts. I use my eyes.
Jimmy could have and should have let him in. But he was even money and wanted the trip. was the spite worth it?
Bretts wheel??
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"Jimmy was even money and Brett was 6-5. Why would Jimmy give up the two hole to Leon who is 60-1. Leon never had sufficient room to get in. If you had half a brain you'd read the charted line on Leon's horse stating clearly D X. which stands for driver break you know meaning Leon's fault when he ran over Brett's wheel."
I have no dog in this fight.
I dont need charts. I use my eyes.
Jimmy could have and should have let him in. But he was even money and wanted the trip. was the spite worth it?
Bretts wheel??
Exactly
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Lots of angst for a Sunday at Saratoga. tmbz1
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You do know the judges there hate Leon and banned hin after incident with Cushing last year. Are you telling me because he is 60/1 he is not allowed a hole but if he was 2/1 he does. It looked like to me Jimmy sped up to close the hole and a few other posters agreed with me. I think they were both at fault.
Yes I'm well aware of this. And you can't give the idiot a hole every time he leaves at 60 to 1. He drives with no respect so he doesn't get any.
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Yes I'm well aware of this. And you can't give the idiot a hole every time he leaves at 60 to 1. He drives with no respect so he doesn't get any.
Your right on that he should get parked. But Leon wasn’t being given a hole, he was fairly clear and Jimmy rushed up to close too late is how zi saw it. He could have closed the hole way earlier before Leon yielded.
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I played Devaux's horse and thought he drove terrible. He used his horse unnecessarily in the 1st quarter just trying to close a hole and almost caused a wreck. After that his horse was done.
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I played Devaux's horse and thought he drove terrible. He used his horse unnecessarily in the 1st quarter just trying to close a hole and almost caused a wreck. After that his horse was done.
Honestly I agree, it was much more Jimmys fault. I personally don't have a dog in the game but it's just how i saw it. I will still go almost any other driver there he gives the hole. The whole idea that Leon shouldn't given a hole because he is 60/1 is nonsense.
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watch race 3 at miami valley sunday IF U WANNA SEE BAD DRIVING 11.wp
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DRIVERS ARE GAMBLING ITS TO OBVIOUS AND 15 CLAIMERS ARE BEING GUTTEDTO THE HALFS IN 54 FIND A TRACK IN THE WORLD THAT HAPPENS AND POST IT..ONLY IN OHIO ITS A DYING GAME FOR SURE AND AS AN OWNER FOR OVER 30 YEARS IM DONE BUYING tmbz1
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With Plainridge opening next week and Beckwith and Athearn usually driving there full-time, should be interesting to see how the driving colony plays out.
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Honestly that was all Devaux 's fault. He ran up the ass of #3 and could have caused an accident . He caused the 3 to break then Devaux tried to stay in the race but think he realized he was coming down (dq) so said fukkk it 🤔. Both him and Bailey suck . Devaux is a cocky prick 🙄 and most of his drives are bad 👎 drivers there are probably tired of it all being about Brett. But they need to have a sit down chat with these clowns over some of these ridiculous drives before someone gets hurt
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With Plainridge opening next week and Beckwith and Athearn usually driving there full-time, should be interesting to see how the driving colony plays out.
Leon will be getting better drives and Some of the trainers will be driving their own when they get bad draws!!
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Honestly that was all Devaux 's fault. He ran up the ass of #3 and could have caused an accident . He caused the 3 to break then Devaux tried to stay in the race but think he realized he was coming down (dq) so said fukkk it 🤔. Both him and Bailey suck . Devaux is a cocky prick 🙄 and most of his drives are bad 👎 drivers there are probably tired of it all being about Brett. But they need to have a sit down chat with these clowns over some of these ridiculous drives before someone gets hurt
We've seen the tragic consequences of accidents on the track. You'd think drivers would err on the side of caution.
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We've seen the tragic consequences of accidents on the track. You'd think drivers would err on the side of caution.
I agree 100% ..you would think
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It is obvious Bailey is not “one of the boys” at Saratoga. He had a horse that could leave, was not offered a give and go and Jimmy thought about giving the hole or not too long. Saratoga is almost as clicky as Buffalo. Id put Leon down as he gives you a chance. No Sunday rides because you aren’t 2-5.
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With Plainridge opening next week and Beckwith and Athearn usually driving there full-time, should be interesting to see how the driving colony plays out.
Will Dan Rawlings be getting more drives?
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Nice having this four page set of replies available so I don't have to create an additional worthless thread. tmbz1