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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Gaagoots on March 19, 2025, 10:17:09 PM
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A beautiful farm with a half mile track for those looking for a nice place to stable.
I know with freehold closing stalls are at a premium this would be a nice little farm to take a look at. Beautiful barn areas with luscious paddocks along with a meticulously cared for half mile track. I stopped by and took a look at the place I'm very very impressed!!
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A beautiful farm with a half mile track for those looking for a nice place to stable.
I know with freehold closing stalls are at a premium this would be a nice little farm to take a look at. Beautiful barn areas with luscious paddocks along with a meticulously cared for half mile track. I stopped by and took a look at the place I'm very very impressed!!
You're really out of your mind racist scumbag. I do agree the track was meticulously maintained, I was doing it. And it's not a full half btw. Why don't you meet me there!!! I'm going down within the next two weeks. Name the day fuckface. I can introduce you to Gina, she's read most of your posts as King Haku and Gaagoots. And you know there's only 14 stalls right? None of which are for rent since the new operators are taking over.
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I don't think a lowlife like Silvestri and son would be allowed at a farm, they would have to prepay stall rent if anything cause it's automatic they won't pay
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I don't think a lowlife like Silvestri and son would be allowed at a farm, they would have to prepay stall rent if anything cause it's automatic they won't pay
What this fucking scumbag doesn't know is Gina is still there dealing with the handover to the new people. I speak to her regularly. He couldn't get past the main gate without someone rolling up on him asking who the fuck he is and why he's there. Not to mention I just called her to tell her he posted this here. SHE HATES anyone messing with her life or property. He's so fucking stupid, the last person to work the track was me months ago. And the farm isn't NJRC commissioned nor will it ever. Moron. ngc3
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I'd laugh at him and his pathetic family and say don't come back here or anywhere near. Pathetic ugly racist broke piece of garbage
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You're really out of your mind racist scumbag. I do agree the track was meticulously maintained, I was doing it. And it's not a full half btw. Why don't you meet me there!!! I'm going down within the next two weeks. Name the day fuckface. I can introduce you to Gina, she's read most of your posts as King Haku and Gaagoots. And you know there's only 14 stalls right? None of which are for rent since the new operators are taking over.
Was I talking to you who the hell mentioned your name don’t get me started! See this is where you stick your beek where it doesn’t belong. I was simply making a nice post about a beautiful farm and you had to come in with your bullshit comments. Why do you constantly have to create turmoil and drama!
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Claim a few more off AA you dumb garbage can
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The MUTT announced that the farm was sold as he was leaving with a ton of cash. WRONG!! HE LIED!
That’s not the story….Looks like the MUTT was dismissed. The place was filthy. A total shit hole stalls were not clean his living quarters was disgusting. He was like a squatter. They couldn’t get him out that MUTT just wouldn’t leave!
The MUTT also became belligerent and did not follow instructions he also told one of the girls at the pizzeria that he owned the farm!
Seems like the MUTT is not welcome no matter where he goes. Whether it be the Meadowlands, Goshen, Mark Ford training center, and most farms in the metropolitan area he has been barred from he it’s not welcome.
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The MUTT announced that the farm was sold as he was leaving with a ton of cash. WRONG!! HE LIED!
That’s not the story….Looks like the MUTT was dismissed. The place was filthy. A total shit hole stalls were not clean his living quarters was disgusting. He was like a squatter. They couldn’t get him out that MUTT just wouldn’t leave!
The MUTT also became belligerent and did not follow instructions he also told one of the girls at the pizzeria that he owned the farm!
Seems like the MUTT is not welcome no matter where he goes. Whether it be the Meadowlands, Goshen, Mark Ford training center, and most farms in the metropolitan area he has been barred from he it’s not welcome.
Gina is going to call you tomorrow to ask why you were on the property and she was THERE. If you get call from a 646 area code ANSWER IT PUSSY. I am sure she will have plenty to say to you.
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Don't let this guy on any farm he's bad news, go claim more horses with your jerk son, how's that NYSS horse working out?
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Don't let this guy on any farm he's bad news, go claim more horses with your jerk son, how's that NYSS horse working out?
Everyone knows who he is and what he is. All I know is he made the wrong statement saying he was on the property today. He still thinks everyone forgot about what he said here being the racist pos he is. I bought one horse off his kid that he was going to Amish. Donau, broke him down we got him cheap. Long story short, win his first start in 4s. Beat the 10s first up then a few starts in the Open because Eric needed to fill it. Now the horse is retired and happy in my buddies backyard. They're fucking diseases and he's saying he was on Gina's property???? She WILL call him too. He's a fucking psycho.
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Was I talking to you who the hell mentioned your name don’t get me started! See this is where you stick your beek where it doesn’t belong. I was simply making a nice post about a beautiful farm and you had to come in with your bullshit comments. Why do you constantly have to create turmoil and drama!
He thinks he is important but he’s nothing but sewer scum, I can smell the post you described about that place after he left 🤮
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1) Here's the problem... YOU LIED!! You said the farm was sold that you were leaving "with a pocket full of cash". The farm was not sold you were asked to leave as usual you blew out of there like a fart in the wind.
2) You really need to pay attention I never said I was there today.
3) I simply made a post about a beautiful farm that we passed by and as usual you came in the conversation with a full head of steam making accusations about my family and I. There's no law that says I can't look at a farm from the street. Who said I entered the property? Answer you. Your little pee brain is probably thinking well how did you see the barn and track? I looked it up on the Internet when it was listed.
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He thinks he is important but he’s nothing but sewer scum, I can smell the post you described about that place after he left 🤮
He really does think he's important. tmbz1
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He really does think he's important. tmbz1
On phone with her as I type, she's pissed and laughing at same time. She's going to call you tomorrow. She also said the two people on the farm will be watching and she's REALLY PISSED you said you were in the apartment over the garage. You know my quarters? And how did you get in? You can answer her tomorrow.
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Lol are you really calling people up ratting about a farm that isn't yours?
You really need a job, a GF, family.
You're getting worse, you'll never get better.
Enjoy the next 5 yrs of your life, it'll continue to be a waste
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Lol are you really calling people up ratting about a farm that isn't yours?
You really need a job, a GF, family.
You're getting worse, you'll never get better.
Enjoy the next 5 yrs of your life, it'll continue to be a waste
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Yup, you're rat- no one would argue that.
All the different emojis every post, like a child
Do you think you're well respected?
No skin in the game yet is still a turncoat with a recorder
Sad, lonely life. Imagine your kids' friends asking them what their dad does for a living? Imagine putting them through that.
Sick
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On phone with her as I type, she's pissed and laughing at same time. She's going to call you tomorrow. She also said the two people on the farm will be watching and she's REALLY PISSED you said you were in the apartment over the garage. You know my quarters? And how did you get in? You can answer her tomorrow.
How could you be that stupid? I never said I was there on the grounds people talk dummy.. I drove by pay attention.
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Yup, you're rat- no one would argue that.
All the different emojis every post, like a child
Do you think you're well respected?
No skin in the game yet is still a turncoat with a recorder
Sad, lonely life. Imagine your kids' friends asking them what their dad does for a living? Imagine putting them through that.
Sick
I can’t imagine really.
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I can’t imagine really.
This just gets better and better. First, remember Ralphy, answer your phone if you see a 646 area code. Had a funny conversation this morning with someone you fucked over. Heard the trainer in Pine Bush sent you pack last time you called to take two horses you didn't want at Monticello, then after the call he blocked you!!!! ngc3 His wife put her foot down and said she doesn't want you in the barn again. Also, you stole the crackhead groom from Sowers to work at Monti? Now they're mad because they're making no money and doing all the work! ngc3 I also see you got a new phone number too, what are you hiding from??? Or WHO are you hiding from??? Anyway, have a good day. Gina still wants to know how you came up to her house and entered the apartment over her garage without permission, most of all she has no fucking idea who you are. That's called trespassing and the property is clearly posted all the way around as well as both front and back gates. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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BONUS: Mr. Megabucks lives in an 800 sf apartment in Florida.....liter ally not much bigger than mine!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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This just gets better and better. First, remember Ralphy, answer your phone if you see a 646 area code. Had a funny conversation this morning with someone you fucked over. Heard the trainer in Pine Bush sent you pack last time you called to take two horses you didn't want at Monticello, then after the call he blocked you!!!! ngc3 His wife put her foot down and said she doesn't want you in the barn again. Also, you stole the crackhead groom from Sowers to work at Monti? Now they're mad because they're making no money and doing all the work! ngc3 I also see you got a new phone number too, what are you hiding from??? Or WHO are you hiding from??? Anyway, have a good day. Gina still wants to know how you came up to her house and entered the apartment over her garage without permission, most of all she has no fucking idea who you are. That's called trespassing and the property is clearly posted all the way around as well as both front and back gates. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
You can tell her for me I was never on the grounds I guess you don’t read. I simply said I drove by. I looked at pictures on the Internet of the beautiful farm and I heard you left the place a shit hole. How many times do I have to repeat myself? I can’t believe how fucking stupid you are.
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You can explain it all to her. ANSWER THE PHONE WHEN SHE CALLS. So you know it's her...fucking cunt. You talk plenty of shit then once you're called out you tuck your tail like a beaten puppy. No backbone racist piece of shit.
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1) Here's the problem... YOU LIED!! You said the farm was sold that you were leaving "with a pocket full of cash". The farm was not sold you were asked to leave as usual you blew out of there like a fart in the wind.
2) You really need to pay attention I never said I was there today.
3) I simply made a post about a beautiful farm that we passed by and as usual you came in the conversation with a full head of steam making accusations about my family and I. There's no law that says I can't look at a farm from the street. Who said I entered the property? Answer you. Your little pee brain is probably thinking well how did you see the barn and track? I looked it up on the Internet when it was listed.
"The place was filthy. A total shit hole stalls were not clean his living quarters was disgusting."
So you saw all that from the street?
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"The place was filthy. A total shit hole stalls were not clean his living quarters was disgusting."
So you saw all that from the street?
He claims he was told that part...his story is all over the place and clearly just wanted to work up SCM. Which he did.
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"The place was filthy. A total shit hole stalls were not clean his living quarters was disgusting."
So you saw all that from the street?
The first post said beautiful barn area with luscious paddocks. How did everything change so fast.
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The first post said beautiful barn area with luscious paddocks. How did everything change so fast.
Easy they both lie like the ass clowns that they are
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Hey Ralphie Racist? You really screwed up this time. She's not playing, and she's scared too. We've been on the phone going over your posts. First she wants to know who the fuck you are talking about her and her property when you don't have a clue not is it your business. Secondly at 4:30 ish there was a vehicle on the farm, she's going through the cameras now too. She laughed when she saw your about face after I called you out. I sent her a pic for her if she reports it with all the posts from HP too. She cannot for the life of her understand how Dreamland is a topic on here. Like I've said many times, she is WAY above all this and has nothing to do with the industry. She inherited the farm. And she's nobody to play with. Trying to scare this woman? Best of luck jackass!
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Lol look what Mikey brought upon this lady, he's a negative & no one wants him around.
Mikey likes talking & posting about Gaags woman but then runs & cries to others when it was something he brought upon himself/them.
No class, well he never went to school & got educated.
You are an A-1 goofball
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I would agree to an extent. If he never came on here bragging about being the maintenance man at Dreamland, no one would ever mention that place or have a clue who that lady is.
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I would agree to an extent. If he never came on here bragging about being the maintenance man at Dreamland, no one would ever mention that place or have a clue who that lady is.
100%
Mikey posting pics of other women but god forbid he hears something made up about some girl who owns a farm.
And hence why no one wants him around
He's a stain who causes more shit than he could shake a stick at.
Poor ladies having pics/info being posted Mikey the bug
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Exactly he’s like a barfly that won’t go away that you have to keep swatting.. I posted nothing but complementary comments about dreamland Farms. I did not go there, but saw pictures on the Internet and drove past and thought to myself what a beautiful place. It’s a simple as that and as usual, he turns it into a shit show catastrophe.
He has a knack for taking a good thought and turning it into turmoil. He’s like a fungus in the horse business.
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100%
Mikey posting pics of other women but god forbid he hears something made up about some girl who owns a farm.
And hence why no one wants him around
He's a stain who causes more shit than he could shake a stick at.
Poor ladies having pics/info being posted Mikey the bug
All good points
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Again it's easy for the trolls to talk shit with nothing but false information like "Kole Hanover". Not even close jerkoff. As for Ralphie? Take it up with Gina. You make threats and statements on the internet regarding you at her property, well guess what. We are VERY versed on the law regarding that. So fuck off loser, you fucked up ROYALLY. And this time I get to sit back and watch. BTW Harness Racer? I never mentioned Dreamland until once again OTHERS who are obsessed with me posted it here. Call me a maintenance man all you want. No different than any of the rest of you shit shovelers rubbing horses. I cared for the place and brought it back to what it should be so Gina could do what she needed. I also cared for the horses, got one back to the races and the mare who would have dropped dead. Do you think you fucking nobodies bother me? Even months after I have no involvement in the game you people are STILL talking about me??? Who's pathetic?????? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Anyway Ralphie? She has all your info and will be making a trip to Hamilton after her attorney guides her on how best to report this. If you were on the property it's trespassing. If you weren't it's cyber stalking with the intent to cause fear. Best of luck dickhead!
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So this all goes back to the track condition at Goshen and Steve Jones/Mark Ford. Where does Ralph and "Kole" fit in?
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Again it's easy for the trolls to talk shit with nothing but false information like "Kole Hanover". Not even close jerkoff. As for Ralphie? Take it up with Gina. You make threats and statements on the internet regarding you at her property, well guess what. We are VERY versed on the law regarding that. So fuck off loser, you fucked up ROYALLY. And this time I get to sit back and watch. BTW Harness Racer? I never mentioned Dreamland until once again OTHERS who are obsessed with me posted it here. Call me a maintenance man all you want. No different than any of the rest of you shit shovelers rubbing horses. I cared for the place and brought it back to what it should be so Gina could do what she needed. I also cared for the horses, got one back to the races and the mare who would have dropped dead. Do you think you fucking nobodies bother me? Even months after I have no involvement in the game you people are STILL talking about me??? Who's pathetic?????? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Anyway Ralphie? She has all your info and will be making a trip to Hamilton after her attorney guides her on how best to report this. If you were on the property it's trespassing. If you weren't it's cyber stalking with the intent to cause fear. Best of luck dickhead!
HEY MIKEY THE MUTT, YOU CERTAINLY KNOW ALL ABOUT CYBER STALKING A COURT OF LAW TELLS US THAT JUST SAYIN......
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Again it's easy for the trolls to talk shit with nothing but false information like "Kole Hanover". Not even close jerkoff. As for Ralphie? Take it up with Gina. You make threats and statements on the internet regarding you at her property, well guess what. We are VERY versed on the law regarding that. So fuck off loser, you fucked up ROYALLY. And this time I get to sit back and watch. BTW Harness Racer? I never mentioned Dreamland until once again OTHERS who are obsessed with me posted it here. Call me a maintenance man all you want. No different than any of the rest of you shit shovelers rubbing horses. I cared for the place and brought it back to what it should be so Gina could do what she needed. I also cared for the horses, got one back to the races and the mare who would have dropped dead. Do you think you fucking nobodies bother me? Even months after I have no involvement in the game you people are STILL talking about me??? Who's pathetic?????? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Anyway Ralphie? She has all your info and will be making a trip to Hamilton after her attorney guides her on how best to report this. If you were on the property it's trespassing. If you weren't it's cyber stalking with the intent to cause fear. Best of luck dickhead!
You mean the way you cyber harassed the other women annd threatened them until they had to get a restraining order? and post people’s personal court records for public to see in this group, and videos of men training babies and calling them ‘Abusers’ and talk crap about people? You don’t think posting videos of guys driving in a race and calling them ‘Abusers’ is cyber harassing? You threatening to beat up a Jackson kid AND OTHERS over the internet and telling people to meet you by the trailers? That’s all Cyber Stalking Douche Bag! The way you keep coming back like Herpes just to get the last word? You started the cyber harassing so don’t go threatening others over it, you deserve what you get
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Exactly he’s like a barfly that won’t go away that you have to keep swatting.. I posted nothing but complementary comments about dreamland Farms. I did not go there, but saw pictures on the Internet and drove past and thought to myself what a beautiful place. It’s a simple as that and as usual, he turns it into a shit show catastrophe.
He has a knack for taking a good thought and turning it into turmoil. He’s like a fungus in the horse business.
He’s nothing but Herpes and will never be anything more
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Lol it's funny seeing a complete Zero, thinks he's doing good, by ratting other people out.
We had a guy in school like that, always calling others down
All the while, he's living in a complete shit hole, no family around, no friends to hangout with. But still everyone else is the loser, not the rat lol
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Lol it's funny seeing a complete Zero, thinks he's doing good, by ratting other people out.
We had a guy in school like that, always calling others down
All the while, he's living in a complete shit hole, no family around, no friends to hangout with. But still everyone else is the loser, not the rat lol
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You mean the way you cyber harassed the other women annd threatened them until they had to get a restraining order? and post people’s personal court records for public to see in this group, and videos of men training babies and calling them ‘Abusers’ and talk crap about people? You don’t think posting videos of guys driving in a race and calling them ‘Abusers’ is cyber harassing? You threatening to beat up a Jackson kid AND OTHERS over the internet and telling people to meet you by the trailers? That’s all Cyber Stalking Douche Bag! The way you keep coming back like Herpes just to get the last word? You started the cyber harassing so don’t go threatening others over it, you deserve what you get
Say again stupid?? ngc3
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Say again stupid?? ngc3
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The name Pinfire rings a bell.
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The name Pinfire rings a bell.
Yeah, Zach Jackson. This clown Belka is saying I threatened him??? Apparently she has some kind of dyslexia. ngc3
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HEY MIKEY THE MUTT, YOU CERTAINLY KNOW ALL ABOUT CYBER STALKING A COURT OF LAW TELLS US THAT JUST SAYIN......
And according to that same court you shouldn't be trying to communicate with me. JUST SAYIN'.
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And according to that same court you shouldn't be trying to communicate with me. JUST SAYIN'.
If you continue to post any messages mentioning me in any way shape or form, than I will continue to post the FACTS that you were indeed found guilty of HARASSMENT-COMMUNICATION IN MANNER TO CAUSE ALARM that is posted for all the public to see on the NJ Courts website. Not a threat simply a promise. It is up to you.
Just sayin !!
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Very simple, stop mentioning me in any way shape or form and I will do the very same. I do not care who you battle with, just keep my name out of it.
Thanks
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Very simple, stop mentioning me in any way shape or form and I will do the very same. I do not care who you battle with, just keep my name out of it.
Thanks
First of all you might try going back and seeing who ANONYMOUSLY accused and threatened ME. I only respond to your nonsense. It's a simple process, you stop, I have nothing to respond to. I have my suspicions who you are, really means nothing either way. How can I make any informed response to someone who doesn't reveal who they are in the first place? JUST SAYIN'
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First of all you might try going back and seeing who ANONYMOUSLY accused and threatened ME. I only respond to your nonsense. It's a simple process, you stop, I have nothing to respond to. I have my suspicions who you are, really means nothing either way. How can I make any informed response to someone who doesn't reveal who they are in the first place? JUST SAYIN'
AKA if he doesn't know who you are, he can't make up a bunch of B.S on you & rat you out over things he's made up in his simple, tangled mind.
Look at that poor lady he just got all worked up over something Sylvestre told him.
Not to mention the lady he was charged with harrassing (plus many more)
That's why he isn't wanted anywhere, too unpredictable.
He would be better off wearing a str8 jacket around, he could have a go pro on his head because you know he doesn't go out without a live recording device.
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See this? This is called the real world. And when you have somewhat of an education, mechanical ability and willing to learn to do more than just shovel horse shit "which I do enjoy" there is money to be made where there is demand and you provide the supply. Two things, guitars and electronic controls. Is that too far over everyone's heads here? I buy printed circuit board, control boards, power supplies etc in bulk from people I know in the city. I test and repair them then resell them. Makes me nice money and saves people A LOT of money. Same with the guitars, I have people in the city who I deal with. Buy nice stuff that needs some work, I fix them, make them pretty, make them play perfectly and sell them. I know it's hard to believe but there IS life outside the so called industry. What's amazing is the people who depend on this dead industry judge me, the same people crying that without harness racing they're done, it's all they know!!!! Well, that's because you're spoiled and lazy. If you don't clean up your industry the chances of losing it are growing every day. And you all know it too.
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P.S. If any of you run into a situation where you have to buy a new control for something like an appliance or TV...DON'T. Message me first. I have no problem helping you assholes if I can.
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AKA if he doesn't know who you are, he can't make up a bunch of B.S on you & rat you out over things he's made up in his simple, tangled mind.
Look at that poor lady he just got all worked up over something Sylvestre told him.
Not to mention the lady he was charged with harrassing (plus many more)
That's why he isn't wanted anywhere, too unpredictable.
He would be better off wearing a str8 jacket around, he could have a go pro on his head because you know he doesn't go out without a live recording device.
AND if I don't know who they are and they are making accusations anonymously they have NO credibility and how can they accuse anyone of threatening or harassing them when that's all they've been doing! Thanks!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3