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Title: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Birdfantammy on March 10, 2025, 01:04:08 PM
I see they cancelled today.  What's the deal with this track?
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 10, 2025, 01:33:30 PM
its garbage  the whole place is garbage. it needs shut down. it makes no money.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Bogeyman on March 11, 2025, 09:09:21 AM
Cancelled again today - they have only raced 3 days in the last two-plus weeks due to the track condition. Got to feel for those there trying to make a living.  Few of those horses can
jump to another track to pick up a check. 
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on March 11, 2025, 09:38:24 AM
MAYBE ITS TIME. JUST SHUTTER DOWN
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: bello on March 11, 2025, 12:42:13 PM
Pocono, Tioga, Saratoga are all in close proximity.  Monti was my track, but it is time to close it.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 11, 2025, 01:19:58 PM
All things aside, as part of what needs to happen in the sport and industry, Monticello is simply one of the tracks that should close.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: sledge hammer on March 11, 2025, 01:25:48 PM
The crazy thing is how well they handle there (relatively speaking of course). Per race they handle more than Vernon, Tioga and Buffalo/Batavia combined....also they often outhandle Yonkers.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 11, 2025, 02:18:17 PM
RAN OUT OF STONEDUST.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: dinkadoo on March 11, 2025, 03:11:48 PM
Reading the press release on the USTA site. 

Using comments
“Once again “. And “Hopefully “

 ngc3
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 11, 2025, 03:27:45 PM
Years ago, they had an opportunity to put hot water pipes under the track surface and they passed.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 11, 2025, 04:41:19 PM
They also had the opportunity to put a DOME on the track with heat and AC for total comfort, and it missed passing by one vote.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 11, 2025, 04:46:32 PM
They also had the opportunity to put a DOME on the track with heat and AC for total comfort, and it missed passing by one vote.
jerkoff
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: rainman2 on March 11, 2025, 05:19:20 PM
jerkoff

Welcome back to horseplop MIKE!!!
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 11, 2025, 05:33:57 PM
Welcome back to horseplop MIKE!!!
tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Onthefront11 on March 11, 2025, 07:21:27 PM
All the horseman are finished
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Bogeyman on March 12, 2025, 09:15:59 AM
Cancelled again today (Wednesday, 3/12).  May as well call off Thursday as well and see if you can get the track put together by next week. On a positive note, the horses are getting some well-deserved rest!!!
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 12, 2025, 09:21:29 AM
They need a high-level track builder/conditioner to get the track surface right. This problem can be long term if not fixed properly.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Yonkers1A on March 12, 2025, 10:39:08 AM
Lock down your goods, the carnies will need some cash with no racing
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Superfecta on March 12, 2025, 12:13:44 PM
I think I saw Howard Oil selling Girl Scout cookies outside of Tilly’s. He can make some money and spend time with his date.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 12, 2025, 12:16:09 PM
I think I saw Howard Oil selling Girl Scout cookies outside of Tilly’s. He can make some money and spend time with his date.
how is cheap jay doing?
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Superfecta on March 12, 2025, 12:24:06 PM
how is cheap jay doing?

He cries like a bitch on Facebook.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 12, 2025, 12:25:31 PM
He cries like a bitch on Facebook.
he is the cheapest
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Bogeyman on March 13, 2025, 09:59:28 AM
Today's Monti update......"Once again, due to track conditions Monticello Raceway has cancelled live racing on Thursday (March 13)."

We will resume racing once the track conditions allow - sometime by mid-summer.  ngc3
(sorry, I couldn't help myself..... 8)
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 13, 2025, 11:21:52 AM
Maybe this is the beginning of the end.

So, can Empire Resorts simply close the track? I remember reading something when the casino finally opened and within a year or so they closed the slots part of the track. The slots part of the track fell under the state regulation dealing with slots at racetracks-----but that's gone, so now what? Can they simply close the track?
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 13, 2025, 04:09:25 PM
Maybe this is the beginning of the end.

So, can Empire Resorts simply close the track? I remember reading something when the casino finally opened and within a year or so they closed the slots part of the track. The slots part of the track fell under the state regulation dealing with slots at racetracks-----but that's gone, so now what? Can they simply close the track?
They would have to shut down the Newburgh casino.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Calhoun on March 13, 2025, 04:26:51 PM
They would have to shut down the Newburgh casino.
What does that contract look like?

How many cards does Monticello need to run?

Any link to details appreciated.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MCR on March 13, 2025, 04:33:31 PM
At the very least the horses get some rest! Those poor animals get abused year round. The only time they get a break is to break down or die.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: The Exporter on March 13, 2025, 05:18:02 PM
What does that contract look like?

How many cards does Monticello need to run?

Any link to details appreciated.
tmbz1
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Calhoun on March 13, 2025, 05:54:31 PM
At the very least the horses get some rest! Those poor animals get abused year round. The only time they get a break is to break down or die.
Ok, they just won't get fed.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 14, 2025, 12:20:25 PM
This was a huge financial burden to the horsemen. Curious if they bump purses to make up for the purse money they didn't spend.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Cobalt Kenny on March 14, 2025, 12:25:07 PM
This was a huge financial burden to the horsemen. Curious if they bump purses to make up for the purse money they didn't spend.
Thats a million to one shot
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Superfecta on March 14, 2025, 02:29:18 PM
Years ago, they had an opportunity to put hot water pipes under the track surface and they passed.

That costs money. They won’t spend anything on that place. When they got their first slot machine, the barns that you could see from 17B were painted in the front. The back and all of the others didn’t get anything.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on March 14, 2025, 02:40:07 PM
That costs money. They won’t spend anything on that place. When they got their first slot machine, the barns that you could see from 17B were painted in the front. The back and all of the others didn’t get anything.
Between the lost revenue and man power expense to keep the track race worthy in the winter, the pipes would have paid for themselves. Leon Greenberg said no and so Monticello continued to close every Labor Day and didn't open until the spring. Syracuse had the hot water pipes under their mile track and it worked well.
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: Onthefront11 on March 14, 2025, 03:01:05 PM
They will race again (one day)
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: The Unstable on March 24, 2025, 09:33:17 AM
Racing today!
Title: Re: What's going on at Monticello?
Post by: The Unstable on March 24, 2025, 12:18:52 PM
Looks like they are going some extra distance as the pylons are moved pretty far out. 
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