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Title: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 08, 2025, 10:17:55 PM
slots, card games, sports gambling, and other gambling (roulette, blackjack, et al), what would the purses be like?
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Kenny on March 08, 2025, 11:58:21 PM
slots, card games, sports gambling, and other gambling (roulette, blackjack, et al), what would the purses be like?

Why should the income from those unrelated products subsidize racing?
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: seen2much on March 09, 2025, 09:57:48 AM
slots, card games, sports gambling, and other gambling (roulette, blackjack, et al), what would the purses be like?
They would be great. A return to racing four nights a week would help the sport.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 09, 2025, 10:20:23 AM
Why should the income from those unrelated products subsidize racing?

If the Meadowlands had ownership or business agreements with ownership, then it wouldn't be subsidies. It's called business.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: mwins on March 09, 2025, 10:33:17 AM
At Woodbine and Mohawk it is called RENT.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Papillon on March 09, 2025, 10:54:31 AM
ridiculous thread
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Pacer 2 on March 09, 2025, 01:05:58 PM
Weren't they and Freehold at one time getting some money from Atlantic City?
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: jupiter on March 09, 2025, 01:10:15 PM
Never going to get casino!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank AC and all the money they have spent. They have leverage we got nothing to bring to the table.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: toothman on March 09, 2025, 01:31:20 PM
Never going to get casino!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank AC and all the money they have spent. They have leverage we got nothing to bring to the table.

I would say geography, but that could easily end when the NY licenses are awarded....
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Kenny on March 09, 2025, 05:48:56 PM
If the Meadowlands had ownership or business agreements with ownership, then it wouldn't be subsidies. It's called business.

So you want different owners for slots, sports gambling, racing, etc. It does not work that way. If a business has a line of business which is not profitable, they close it.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Stan durbread on March 09, 2025, 05:55:53 PM
So you want different owners for slots, sports gambling, racing, etc. It does not work that way. If a business has a line of business which is not profitable, they close it.
Does your local grocery still sell bread?  It is always a loss due to waste. But if they don’t have it they ain’t gonna get people in stores. A simple business term. It is called loss leaders. Sometimes you have to lose money on one product to make more on others
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Kenny on March 09, 2025, 06:14:30 PM
Does your local grocery still sell bread?  It is always a loss due to waste. But if they don’t have it they ain’t gonna get people in stores. A simple business term. It is called loss leaders. Sometimes you have to lose money on one product to make more on others

This is not bread. Racing is not a loss leaders that contributes to the other lines of business, it is a loser. The space of a few slot machines generates as much revenue as racing. Add to that the value of all that land the racing facilities take up. Hotels, townhomes, retail, restaurants, etc. would be worth more than the racing.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on March 09, 2025, 06:21:14 PM
Does your local grocery still sell bread?  It is always a loss due to waste. But if they don’t have it they ain’t gonna get people in stores. A simple business term. It is called loss leaders. Sometimes you have to lose money on one product to make more on others

While bread does draw customers into a grocery store, racing draws nobody into a casino
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on March 09, 2025, 07:04:00 PM
So you want different owners for slots, sports gambling, racing, etc. It does not work that way. If a business has a line of business which is not profitable, they close it.

I won't speak to your first question/point, because I already see that is a waste of time.

As to your second point, in the world of business, apparently you never heard of a loss leader. I really wish you were in my business. I'd do better. But, if you bet on horses, then you are, and thank you very much!
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 09, 2025, 07:30:13 PM
ridiculous thread

Please start a thread or 2 so we can critique what you do here on horseplop.

Thank you.
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Papillon on March 10, 2025, 08:04:45 AM
Please start a thread or 2 so we can critique what you do here on horseplop.

Thank you.

are you some type of shill that now regurgitates old threads with new titles?

what if.. Gural does this or Gural does that?

face facts--M1 will not get any casino or slots-and the industry is dying a slow death

breeding, handle and fan interest is dropping off rapidly

...and by the way, I have started threads and they are not about fantasies, they are realistic

thank you, Sir
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: Parked on March 10, 2025, 10:59:23 AM
Its a back and forth thing with the tracks and states. Years ago Yonkers was rolling, never thought The meadowlands could compete. Then the Meadowlands nearly closed Yonkers until they got the slots and took off again. Then Meadowlands was revived and Yonkers is where it is today. Huge purses and no handle. The new NY casinos will again push Yonkers until NJ sees the NY casinos sucking their $$$ away and then The Meadowlands will get a casino license. 
Title: Re: if the meadowlands could get-----
Post by: rainman2 on March 10, 2025, 11:11:35 AM
are you some type of shill that now regurgitates old threads with new titles?

what if.. Gural does this or Gural does that?

face facts--M1 will not get any casino or slots-and the industry is dying a slow death

breeding, handle and fan interest is dropping off rapidly

...and by the way, I have started threads and they are not about fantasies, they are realistic

thank you, Sir

I’m not a a shill and I don’t regulate threads as you say I do!

People post threads and people respond to them!

I never stated one way or the other whether this is possible or a fantasy.

Please learn to read before you jump to conclusions here on horseplop.

FYI, Others are enjoying posting on this thread.

Thank you, Sir


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