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Title: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Birdfantammy on February 24, 2025, 10:33:31 AM
Anyone know where Wagner Horses went..if anywhere?

Wagner should be banned for life.  Dude has a history of doping. They need to get rid of him permanently.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: firhill on February 24, 2025, 11:05:56 AM
Anyone know where Wagner Horses went..if anywhere?

Wagner should be banned for life.  Dude has a history of doping. They need to get rid of him permanently.

Maybe he got banned for life?

Maybe they got rid of him permanently?
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Birdfantammy on February 24, 2025, 11:14:09 AM
Maybe he got banned for life?

Maybe they got rid of him permanently?

I saw he was given a year and a half suspension for his 9 horses that tested positive.   Not harsh enough imo.  having 9 horses test positive in a course of a week ...dude needs to go.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Kirbys Ace on February 24, 2025, 11:28:58 AM
Not hard to find if the horses are still racing. Just do a USTA search on their names. If they have raced in last 90 days if will show up.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Harness racer on February 24, 2025, 11:49:12 AM
Guy is a scumbag and a disgrace to the industry.  He has been popped putting all kinds of things in horses.  Was given a huge suspension at one point in PA.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on February 24, 2025, 11:59:29 AM
IIRC, he took a year suspension (for a big # of positives) for ADB/Fubinaca. I think it was through April 2025. Wasn't he hooked up with some bloodstock agent kind of guy? I think the guy was not only finding horses for his owners to buy, but talking to other owners and trying to get them to send horses to Wagner. I don't remember the details, but someone told me something like this. I didn't pay much attention. Figured he would have gotten more than a year.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on February 24, 2025, 03:44:47 PM
it was definitley contamination.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: getreal on February 24, 2025, 05:30:28 PM
Follow the money, most of his horses land at Buffalo and Batavia. Joke
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Kirbys Ace on February 24, 2025, 05:37:09 PM
Follow the money, most of his horses land at Buffalo and Batavia. Joke

Seems to make sense since he was a beard owner for most of the horses that went to NY
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Raging pace on February 24, 2025, 06:41:53 PM
Wagner is a piece of shit, tied to trainer Sam smith from Batavia / Buffalo raceway. Smith is a fat useless fuck who’s also a doper like Wagner. They flip flop horses from smith to Wagner . Both should be banned for life !
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: WildWizard on February 24, 2025, 08:08:19 PM
Isn't it banded?
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Birdfantammy on February 24, 2025, 08:29:26 PM
Wagner is a piece of shit, tied to trainer Sam smith from Batavia / Buffalo raceway. Smith is a fat useless fuck who’s also a doper like Wagner. They flip flop horses from smith to Wagner . Both should be banned for life !

Totally agree!  Sick of these dopers.  They need to go!
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: seen2much on February 24, 2025, 08:41:09 PM
Wagner isn't the only one. Some big trainers had many Glaucine & Gabapentin positives. The difference is those were swept under the rug. I've read on plop how many states have done the same.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Way to go on February 24, 2025, 09:42:40 PM
Scum of the Earth......also  recently a new father....but not with current wife.....he should grow up
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Onthefront11 on February 24, 2025, 10:27:34 PM
Been ⛽️ them up for years no regard for the animal
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: mykids3 on March 01, 2025, 09:29:05 AM
I bet he has a lot of babies.  tmbz1
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Facts on March 02, 2025, 01:10:52 PM
Ron Millman at Dover are Wagner horses
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Kirbys Ace on March 02, 2025, 01:46:34 PM
Millman has been in the business for years and always and I say always had a small stable with mostly his own horses. Nothing spectacular but just average at best and lower condition racers.

Right now, he shows 9 racing and using the same drivers Wagner used. With more wins in 2 months than usually a year, So, I can believe your statement might have some merit. These are not the typical Millman horses racing lately and especially winning in 52. Thats what threw the red flag for me!

But if we see it, you know damn right well the puppets upstairs see it as well!
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Scooteroo on March 02, 2025, 01:49:12 PM
One or two of his horses were purchases from Canada, and there's no way Millman has the money to afford them.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Kirbys Ace on March 02, 2025, 02:06:27 PM
Exactly! And we know Wagner uses a broker. DHRC used to make you show proof of where the funds come from to purchase a horse to race at Dover or Harrington. Not sure if they still enforce that or not? I know when i applied for an owner's license they wanted proof of a paper trail of funds for a horse purchase to be considered a Delaware Owner. But that was many years ago. But the way these guys are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars is ridiculous lately.
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Birdfantammy on March 02, 2025, 09:10:43 PM
Millman has been in the business for years and always and I say always had a small stable with mostly his own horses. Nothing spectacular but just average at best and lower condition racers.

Right now, he shows 9 racing and using the same drivers Wagner used. With more wins in 2 months than usually a year, So, I can believe your statement might have some merit. These are not the typical Millman horses racing lately and especially winning in 52. Thats what threw the red flag for me!

But if we see it, you know damn right well the puppets upstairs see it as well!

INTERESTING!  I suspected something going on at Dover.  Big red flag with horses that Porter has been driving.  He is not driving at Rosecroft and mostly drove for Wagner.  They need to get this guy and kick his ass out of racing PERMANENTLY.  He's a doping criminal creep!   Hopefully they catch on to it sooner than later! 
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: Pacer 2 on March 03, 2025, 02:01:17 PM
Wagner's made plenty of money buying and selling horses also......
Title: Re: John Wagner Horses
Post by: rainman2 on March 03, 2025, 05:19:34 PM
Isn't it banded?

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