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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on December 01, 2024, 10:52:53 AM
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seems like it
dexter
mccarthy bothers
zeron
yannick,,
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or just a down yr ..
his name has ben almost absent in big races
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luc been saying he is losing it for awhile now.he isnt a top 10 driver at this point.he rarely has hi horses in good positions and doesnt get alot out of horses these days.tim off has been good to me this year betting
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Seems to be on a lot of long shots and nowhere near where he can pick his drives in the big races. Cullipher gives him most of his power drives and sometimes his still second choice. He's a gas and go driver and hard to pull that quarter pole move when your 50 to 1! Needs to stay at Dover where he can choose his drives.
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You guys are brutal. Watch him today at Harrahs and let me know what you think.
Yeah Yeah, I hear it already. Racing against garbage there.
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You guys are brutal. Watch him today at Harrahs and let me know what you think.
Yeah Yeah, I hear it already. Racing against garbage there.
READING AND
COMPREHENDING IS A SKILL
WE ARE TALKING STAKES. RACES
WE KNOW HES GREAT AT DOVER ngc3
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Good christian men should not be so nasty. Where did I mention Dover
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READING AND
COMPREHENDING IS A SKILL
WE ARE TALKING STAKES. RACES
WE KNOW HES GREAT AT DOVER ngc3
Unless he starts getting some live drives from the better stables, which will be difficult, his days of winning stakes races will be few and far between. When you're not winning the big races anymore, you become the forgotten man. In spite of that, his purse earnings for the year are over 8 million dollars which is still a nice living.
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Unless he starts getting some live drives from the better stables, which will be difficult, his days of winning stakes races will be few and far between. When you're not winning the big races anymore, you become the forgotten man.
Agree, but why has he lost the rides for the big stables....Other than Cullipher.
I understand why Dexter would be top call virtually always, but why did they lose confidence in TT. I don't typically follow the top tier races, I am more of a bottom feeder so the question is legit.
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because when he is in overnights at b tracks against lesser driver he is fine,when he has to compete against the best he is the worst driver in that race
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He's never really driven much for the big stables, and in the past 3 or 4 years, Dunn and the McCarthy brothers have taken alot of his drives away. He rarely drives for Burke, Takter, and Alagna, so his opportunities are limited. Cullipher horses are mostly overnight horses. I don't see it getting any better in the future either. All the top drivers except him travelled to the 3 tracks in Kentucky for their sire stake races but Tetrick only went for the Red Mile. Guess he's not as hungry for money anymore.
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because when he is in overnights at b tracks against lesser driver he is fine,when he has to compete against the best he is the worst driver in that race
In other words, like you, Tetrick is a "lost cause" I take it you won't be sending him a Christmas card this year.
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He's never really driven much for the big stables, and in the past 3 or 4 years, Dunn and the McCarthy brothers have taken alot of his drives away. He rarely drives for Burke, Takter, Alagna, so his opportunities are limited. Cullipher horses are mostly overnight horses. He still drives alot of Pelling's horses, but his stable is small compared to the others and he didn't have that good of a year. I don't see it getting any better in the future either. All the top drivers except him travelled to the 3 tracks in Kentucky for their sire stake races but Tetrick only went for the Red Mile. Guess he's not as hungry for money anymore.
Sounds like the Dave Palone of the Northeast. Content not travelling so much. I think he lives in South Jersey, has kids, makes sense.
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Sounds like the Dave Palone of the Northeast. Content not travelling so much. I think he lives in South Jersey, has kids, makes sense.
He lives right down the road from Andrew McCarthy in South Jersey. Palone is also 62 years old. It's also the main reason David Miller is moving back to Ohio in 2026, he just turned 60, and tired of all the travelling, plus he's loaded.
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gh2009 you do realize he was barely a top 10 driver at the meds right?he finished behind stratton,bartlett,and andy miller. give me a break.the guy was the best for a period of time.its not his time anymore.only good thing is bettors like you live in the past with his skills giving better odds on others who are better
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agree
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few years back dont know if its his process still
when you put him on your horses,,his request was 7 to 10 percent of winnings rather than the standard 5 percent ..
dont know i he still requests that..
you didnt agree you didnt put him on your horses..
FACT!!!
did that leave a bad taste in owners and trainers mouth idk,,
i was stating that in last few years his stakes winning drives and wins have deminished greatly ..
hes still an awesome driver
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few years back dont know if its his process still
when you put him on your horses,,his request was 7 to 10 percent of winnings rather than the standard 5 percent ..
dont know i he still requests that..
you didnt agree you didnt put him on your horses..
FACT!!!
did that leave a bad taste in owners and trainers mouth idk,,
i was stating that in last few years his stakes winning drives and wins have deminished greatly ..
hes still an awesome driver
That would explain alot and I would understand the loss of woners who were paying other elite driver 5% and a tip.
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gh2009 you do realize he was barely a top 10 driver at the meds right?he finished behind stratton,bartlett,and andy miller. give me a break.the guy was the best for a period of time.its not his time anymore.only good thing is bettors like you live in the past with his skills giving better odds on others who are better
I'm well aware of how poorly he did at Meadowlands this year and frankly couldn't care less if he's a top 5, 10, 20, or 100 driver. I am living in the present, but for some reason you don't like him, which is your right. If he has the horse he can still win. If you drive all longshots, you're not going to win much and that goes for any driver. Think we need to move on to another topic.
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He did drive Confederate and Geocentric just last year.
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Dave Miller is moving to Ohio. That should open up more live drives. Will he get Burke drives?
Tetrick is over 8 million in 2024. It is good but a down year for him.
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Some have said his attitude can rub some owners the wrong way.
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He did drive Confederate and Geocentric just last year.
Yep. literally 2 of the best in the sport last year
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Timmy has burned all his bridges and now he can't get drives so what talent he does have means nothing. Career over!
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What happened between him and toscanno
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Some have said his attitude can rub some owners the wrong way.
With the success he had for years, he turned into a full of himself prick! tmbz1
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Timmy has burned all his bridges and now he can't get drives so what talent he does have means nothing. Career over!
Even without live horses in the big races he has still managed to have over 8 million in purse earnings this year. I'm sure he'd like to make more, but making $400,000 isn't exactly the time to call it a career.
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Even without live horses in the big races he has still managed to have over 8 million in purse earnings this year. I'm sure he'd like to make more, but making $400,000 isn't exactly the time to call it a career.
You forgot to add in the extra 2-5% on his 7-10% states drives!!
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Timmy has burned all his bridges and now he can't get drives so what talent he does have means nothing. Career over!
Yeah right. 43 years old. He's done for. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
No one in this business survives past that age ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I mean really .. There are dudes twice his age still training and occasionally driving.
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Just a down stakes year. He will be back. Still had a really nice earnings year. Wish I had his problems ngc3
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If a driver needs a slump buster --- have someone trash him on HORSEPLOP
Sunday
Wins = 6 one paid $12 another & another like $25
Places = 2
Show = 3
Sure Timmy T appreciated the question of his ability === the good ole days when Campbell would get trashed and said he lost in the spring, then crush all summer long.
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He’s had another really good overnight season. Stakes winners are what he is getting dogged about. Just a down year and nothing else in my opinion. It happens. But is it because he has rubbed people the wrong way over the years?
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He’s had another really good overnight season. Stakes winners are what he is getting dogged about. Just a down year and nothing else in my opinion. It happens. But is it because he has rubbed people the wrong way over the years?
Was asking for 7-10% driver fee the beginning or the end?
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The only Driver worth giving more money to would be Dexter but why? If your driving the best horse or you want to drive the best horse then how are you gonna say I want 10% to drive? I would say "5% but only if you win I'll give you 10%" Drivers are very very important but only 1 can command getting extra and he only wants to drive the best anyway.
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he is a good driver because of the stock he gets to drive. there are many others that could do just as well with that same stock.
david miller is better than dexter dudd.
also brett miller back when he was driving with walter at nfld. id say he was better than dexter dudd. with that being said brett drove real power (v. morgan jr/ john lee)
so its more or less the horse. and not getting locked in.
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he is a good driver because of the stock he gets to drive. there are many others that could do just as well with that same stock.
david miller is better than dexter dudd.
also brett miller back when he was driving with walter at nfld. id say he was better than dexter dudd. with that being said brett drove real power (v. morgan jr/ john lee)
so its more or less the horse. and not getting locked in.
How do you think Dexter gets all the power? It's not a beauty contest it's raw talent. Tetrick drove Mirage all year and Dexter climbs on and he's a different horse. I love David but he is 85% of Dexter's talent at this stage. David will not work out a trip with a rank horse and Dexter is all finess. Horses just respond different to his hands behind them. No different than Walter Case at NFLD. Walter was 2 seconds better than any driver their and you could switch horses and let anyone else drive them and they would not get out of them what Walter could. Your talking about good good drivers. Dexter is a great once in a generation type driver. Walter Case was god given raw talent. It can't be taught and it don't matter what he sits behind he's beating you. He didn't always have the best horse but he could overcome with talent.
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IMHO
A Bum Phillips quote on Bear Bryant might fit in here for Dexter Dunn.
" He can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n".
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dexter is pleasant to talk to
bionic can be brash at times
dexter sells himself
others can seem like its there right to be put on best horse
zeron is another sells himself ..
to many good drivers today
nobody wants to be talked down by a driver jmho
owners and trainers uisually know what they have in horsepower..
no need for snide remarks when u get off the horses..
again its takes more energy to be an asshole than to be pleasant
jmho
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This sums up Timmy 100%! Always has something shitty to say when he gets off a horse that didn’t race well.
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dexter is pleasant to talk to
bionic can be brash at times
dexter sells himself
others can seem like its there right to be put on best horse
zeron is another sells himself ..
to many good drivers today
nobody wants to be talked down by a driver jmho
owners and trainers uisually know what they have in horsepower..
no need for snide remarks when u get off the horses..
again its takes more energy to be an asshole than to be pleasant
jmho
Exactly - Dexter and Zeron are easy to talk to and don't try to train your horse like Timmy does. Timmy always has an equipment change or something you need to do making you feel like you don't know what your doing.
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dexter is pleasant to talk to
bionic can be brash at times
dexter sells himself
others can seem like its there right to be put on best horse
zeron is another sells himself ..
to many good drivers today
nobody wants to be talked down by a driver jmho
owners and trainers uisually know what they have in horsepower..
no need for snide remarks when u get off the horses..
again its takes more energy to be an asshole than to be pleasant
jmho
THERE YOU GO. PUBLIC RELATIONS. IT MAKES A HIGE DIFFERENCE IN THE STOCK YOU DRIVE.
as for walter he drove all of big bobs horses. those things would glow in the dark if the track lights went out. dont get ewrong i do think walter was probably one of the greatest. they tried tying his hit in the stirrups with bungee chords. he wasnt hurting the horses it was scaring them to go faster. its not like he lined up a 50 yd fg. alot more drivers "kick" than we know. they just had a microscope on him is all.
if you still watch him he still does it.
walter for the most part was pretty nice getting off the bike. that was jizzmores downfall. bad attitude.
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Does Grismore even drive anymore?
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i think he jogs horses for schillaci
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i think he jogs horses for schillaci
How many steps down in your career is this after failing with Burke horses at Yonkers years ago??
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also has some of jason brewers horses at northfield/sahbra
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wow - went from YR and a cheerleader hot wife to jogging horses. That is hard to do!