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Title: Captain Albano
Post by: SeattleSlew on November 29, 2024, 02:28:16 AM
Powerful race!  Stung to the quarter in 25.1 and finished well.  Nijinsky couldn't get clear till the lane, but probably was not going to catch him.  No doubt who is 3yo Pacer of the Year.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: PineHurstPacer on November 29, 2024, 03:54:24 AM
I've been out of the loop

where is he going to stand?
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Scooteroo on November 29, 2024, 04:42:23 AM
Blue Chip Farm in New York.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: SeattleSlew on November 29, 2024, 08:17:01 AM
Part of the "Dr. J. Management" group.  I believe $8500 for year 1.  1:49.2 speed as a 2yo, $1.5mm earned at 3, wins on 1/2, 5/8, mile tracks.  Capt. T through Angelou.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Brown jug on November 29, 2024, 10:24:08 AM
no reason he should not be a good/great sire
well until he isn't, which can easily happen as we all know 
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Chips N Salsa on November 29, 2024, 11:46:42 AM
great value at 30k / share
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Harness Stats on November 29, 2024, 12:29:45 PM
He should do OK but I think he is a bit undersized to have any lasting impression on the breed.  So many Captain T's out there.  Probably another face in the crowd in the long run.  He should race at 4 IMO.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: lost cause on November 29, 2024, 12:45:09 PM
hey seattle why is he 3yr old pacer of the year? he didnt win any of the marqee events.there are 4 horses in the running and all dominated aat some point. mirage hanover,nijinsky,legendary hanover, and capt. albano all had dominate stretches. the other 3 won the big races. that is why i say its between the other 3
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Scooteroo on November 29, 2024, 01:03:19 PM
Lost Cause: Captain Albano didn't win any of the marquee events according to you?

Captain Albano won the Little Brown Jug, Adios, Matron, and Progress Pace, all major races. Nijinsky won the North American Cup but most of his other wins were in the Ontario Sires Stakes. Legendary Hanover won the Meadowlands Pace and most of his other wins were in Canada, plus he tailed off after that. Mirage Hanover won the Meadowlands Pace and Tattersalls at Red Mile. Captain Albano was the most consistent all year and clearly the best at the end of the year and deserves to be voted top 3-year-old. I don't think the voting will be that close either.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Harness Stats on November 29, 2024, 02:37:57 PM
Lost Cause: Captain Albano didn't win any of the marquee events according to you!

Marquee?  None of what you mentioned are more than what could be considered major, even the Jug and Adios which almost never attract ALL the major players.  Don't get me wrong Captain Albano has the credentials to be 3 yr old of the year mostly due to consistency throughout the year as you mentioned.  The others have major knocks against them.  PS Mirage won the Breeders Crown at M not the pace which I'm sure you know.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: hoosierboy on November 29, 2024, 02:40:54 PM
Lost Cause: Captain Albano didn't win any of the marquee events according to you!

Captain Albano won the Little Brown Jug, Adios, Matron, and Progress Pace, all major races. Nijinsky won the North American Cup but most of his other wins were in the Ontario Sires Stakes. Legendary Hanover won the Meadowlands Pace and most of his other wins were in Canada, plus he tailed off after that. Mirage Hanover won the Meadowlands Pace and Tattersalls at Red Mile. Captain Albano was the most consistent all year and clearly the best at the end of the year and deserves to be voted top 3-year-old. I don't think the voting will be that close either.

Great evaluation
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: lost cause on November 29, 2024, 03:31:44 PM
i forgot about jug but that race is more post position needy of all the top races.albano sat a pocket to jody who wasnt giving up the lead to anyone.the other races are lesser races.i just think winning crown,pace, or cup is more impressive
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: lost cause on November 29, 2024, 03:40:44 PM
also you you seemed to forget legendary won cane pace in world record time
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Scooteroo on November 29, 2024, 04:13:48 PM
You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with it. I'm not that big into times, especially when it's in the afternoon on a hot summer day, plus it was only a 5-horse field. The horse was very sharp for several months but tailed off later in the year and was winless in his last 4 or 5 starts before they retired him. Getting back to the Little Brown Jug, Nijinsky ran terrible and Legendary Hanover was a non-factor in both heats. In the early part of the year Captain Albano wasn't that good but really picked up his game starting with the Adios and stayed sharp the rest of the year, none of the others can say that.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: lost cause on November 29, 2024, 06:36:05 PM
albano may have stayed sharp but what happened in the breeders crown?my opinion  the horse who was sharp basically the whole year was nijinsky.he started good and ended good.legendary and mirage had about 6/8 weeks of dominance and albano was best the late.but again i think if you ask owners what races they would rather win i think jug is 4th.so my vote would go to either mirage,nijinsky or legendary
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Brown jug on November 29, 2024, 07:05:35 PM
my opinion it comes down to nijinsky  or albano
i eliminate legendary based on poor finish to the year and he was 4th in na cup and did not race in breeders crown
i eliminate mirage hanover based on missing na cup final and seventh in m pace
also both of above won $1.1 m , significantly less than both nijinsky and albano

nijinsky was first in na cup, second in m pace, second in breeders crown
       missed top three only twice, jug elim and progress elim when parked mile
       won $1.66m

albano was third in na cup, ninth in m pace and third in breeders crown
      also only missed top three twice
      won $1.5 m

albano finished year very strong and looked dominant
my only knock against nijinsky as consistent as he was is that he never really looked like the dominant horse for a period of time
close call but i give slight edge to albano

Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Harness Stats on November 29, 2024, 07:12:51 PM
Mirage had a disappointing year from what was possible for him.  Aside from the 2 victory's in the big races and a few big parked out or used too hard miles most races didn't work out for him especially when Tetrick drove

Legendary was great for those few starts and once he tailed off they shut him down.  Way too early.  Not a good look for a "seasons champion".

The vast majority of Nijinsky's wins were in Canada against lesser.  Had he kept winning in the States consistently he would have had a big chance for the honors

That leaves Captain Albano.  Other than one off week and untimely break he's been right there throughout the year.  Surviving the rapid first half and winning easily the other day soundly beating Nijinsky was the icing on the cake.  Mirage had survived tougher trips for solid finishes many times but even off the fast pace had nothing.  He didn't even outleave Nijinsky. 

Other than the die hards that might select Legendary, Captain Albano should win the honors easily.
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: lost cause on November 29, 2024, 07:29:18 PM
i keep hearing,mirage,legendary,and nijinsky won a bunch of races in canada.well those canadian races couldnt have been that easy with those 3 and add funtime bayama and it seems like pretty tough races to me. personally i think none of them were great and all had their moments to shine.i just cant give horse of year to a horse who couldnt win 1 of the big 3 races
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Brown jug on November 29, 2024, 09:24:47 PM
thorn, your comments are viable
sure nijinsky won the sbsw and simcoe in Ontario and 4 oss finals
no different than albano winning pa sires and the adios( that field was weak)

but nijinsky showed up in the big 3 finals when all the best were there and was competitive in them all

its a close call but albano should not be a walk over
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: chester on November 29, 2024, 11:11:50 PM
Albano 3 yr old colt LOCK
Title: Re: Captain Albano
Post by: Scooteroo on November 30, 2024, 09:14:54 AM
albano may have stayed sharp but what happened in the breeders crown?my opinion  the horse who was sharp basically the whole year was nijinsky.he started good and ended good.legendary and mirage had about 6/8 weeks of dominance and albano was best the late.but again i think if you ask owners what races they would rather win i think jug is 4th.so my vote would go to either mirage,nijinsky or legendary
There was nothing wrong with Captain Albano's race in the Breeders Crown. He set a pressured pace and tired late to finish 3rd. Mirage Hanover had a 100% perfect trip and picked up the pieces but wasn't overly impressive in doing so. If I'm an owner my goal is to win the most money no matter how I get it. Nijinsky had a great year and won alot of races and money, but other than winning a stakes race at Hoosier Park in November against a bunch of nothing horses, he didn't win any races outside of Canada. It's just unfortunate so many top horses are retiring after their 3-year-old season.
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