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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: JUICEJUNKIES on October 28, 2024, 08:03:35 PM
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HOW MANY RACES SHOULD BE RUN IN AN HOUR???
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at least 3
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every 18 mins. keeps card moving but you got time to bet.
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Four. Is fair
Every fifteen minutes
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The only problem with running them off that fast is there isn't enough time to warm up. At Batavia you can only get in three times around.
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It would be nice if tracks actually started their race on time instead of 5 minutes past post time. Track management thinks it increases the handle, but it really doesn't, all is does is give bettors more time to wager. If you start your races on time the bettors will adjust accordingly.
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3 or 4 no more no less and run the race at 0 minutes to post not so long after
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Most judges are older and need at least 20 minutes between races to go to the bathroom and get their free coffee! Not to mention there's medication and blood pressure checks.
73cv.2
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Its not like you have to stand on line at the cashiers window and then stand on multiple lines to make your win bets, exactas and doubles....
Times have changed...
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15
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It took them too many years to figure out that you could cash and bet at the same window and make any type of bet at any window. I remember Rockingham had a 2.00 WPS window that forced you to make that bet which not many did. There was never a line at it. There were long lines at the others. To cash you had to walk around the back of the sellers windows to do it.
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They used to have individual windows like that at the old Brandywine Raceway. Some tellers may only have had 1 or 2 customers all night.
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I wait till the last second to bet, Saturday night Twin B Joe Fresh was 2/5 as the went behind the gate. I bet her $100, and at the quarter pole she was 1/9!
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That happens because some of the off track OTB hubs and wagering sites don't send in all their wagers until right before the start instead of in smaller increments prior to off time.
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I always felt 18-20 MINUTES would be enough between races.
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They used to have individual windows like that at the old Brandywine Raceway. Some tellers may only have had 1 or 2 customers all night.
Same at Harrington before the Sports book. Duane Mitchell and a few others had their own window.
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Speaking of Duane, you probably know he died earlier in the year. He was very talented as a driver and loved criticizing other drivers for bad drives. He used to go to the Turf Club I went to in PA a few times maybe 12 to 15 years ago. Wasn't a bad guy, but his mouth got him in trouble.
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15-18 minutes per race. That way if you are alone racing more than one you have time to get one in, send the other out and have time to strip your horse so you can go watch the next race.
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Maybe the funniest part is that at zero minutes to post, the horses are still standing in the paddock.
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I would love to see a change when the betting windows close. Put up a clock and when it reaches 000 the betting windows close. The odds changing drastically after the gate rolls really keeps conspiracy theories alive. So much I’m starting to believe it myself!!! As far as time between races. No more than 15 minutes for harness. Times have changed. People want fast events. I had an idea but I’m sure no track would entertain it. How about two harness tracks. Let’s say woodbine Mohawk and meadowlands running a double header and promote each other. Mingle the pick 4s and 5s. Then there is a race every 8 minutes. Fast action. Two different tracks. Let the track handicapper choose both cards. Make a competition between them!!! Let’s make HARNESS RACING FUN AGAIN!!!! Even have contests where a track patron can win a weekend trip to the other track!!!!
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My late grandmother could knit a sweater in the time in between harness races.
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Kirby's Ace
Getting back to Brandywine Raceway have individual windows for each denomination of bet W-P-S. In those days they didn't have the ability to cancel tickets so if a teller punched out the wrong ticket, he'd be on the hook for the money if he couldn't get it sold before the race. I knew the $50 seller there and one time he got stuck eating (2) $50 win tickets because he punched out the wrong number. Unfortunately for him, the horse didn't win.
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Kirby's Ace
Getting back to Brandywine Raceway have individual windows for each denomination of bet W-P-S. In those days they didn't have the ability to cancel tickets so if a teller punched out the wrong ticket, he'd be on the hook for the money if he couldn't get it sold before the race. I knew the $50 seller there and one time he got stuck eating (2) $50 win tickets because he punched out the wrong number. Unfortunately for him, the horse didn't win.
Jack McVay
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Speaking of Duane, you probably know he died earlier in the year. He was very talented as a driver and loved criticizing other drivers for bad drives. He used to go to the Turf Club I went to in PA a few times maybe 12 to 15 years ago. Wasn't a bad guy, but his mouth got him in trouble.
I was in the sports book at Harrington when one night he screamed John Campbell was the worst driver of all time and Orlando Greene could drive circles around him!
ngc3
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Sounds just like him, he always criticizes Kenny and Dennis Mitchell. When I used to go to Dover I always saw his dad Vernon but never saw him make a bet, he's still alive too.
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should be like t breds and have half an hour between
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I don't know that there is a dead-on right amount of time. I think it's going to depend on the track, the day, the crowd, etc., but whatever it is for each track, it should be consistent if possible. Whatever the time is, the mechanics and logistics can be worked out. That's why I say the overlap and stepping on toes is BS. $h!t happens, and a minute or two here and there can right any ship. In the abstract, I think 20 minutes could be about right. Once track ownership/management understands the business of running and track, and they learn how to do so, then they'll figure out how to fill that time and yield benefits from it.
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Pocono has the least time between races. Northfield the most. I don't know how those Northfield guys can stand it on a bitterly cold winter night....and for fifteen races.