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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: SeattleSlew on October 22, 2024, 06:22:47 AM
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Definitely thinning the herd in the extreme. There are 31 2yo going under the hammer, 14 3 yo and one 4 yo. Many of the larger stables have decent consignments, with Burke, Svandstedt, E. Miller, Cullipher all selling a dozen or so, but Tony Alagna dominates with 46.
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I don't know anything and haven't heard anything about his operation, owners, etc., and while many larger stables sell a lot of horses (in Harrisburg), this does seem like an extraordinary number of horses. I wonder if this is on par with previous years.
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Definitely thinning the herd in the extreme. There are 31 2yo going under the hammer, 14 3 yo and one 4 yo. Many of the larger stables have decent consignments, with Burke, Svandstedt, E. Miller, Cullipher all selling a dozen or so, but Tony Alagna dominates with 46.
I think he bought 30 yearlings at Lexington plus whatever he might buy in Harrisburg plus homebreds that may be sent to him plus his own homebreds plus the many other yearling sale purchases. My guess is he is making room for new arrivals?
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he had a subpar year
hes smart sale quick move on to next batch
hes got the biggest owners in the game he can do that
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Can't keep them all, ya gotta thin the herd. There are probably some nice horses in there. But they aren't looking for just "nice" horses, they want great horses. Unload the second string, reload. He's not Burke, he doesn't want to fill all the classes. It's economics of scale. He's already reloaded 30 yearlings getting rid of 31. Smart move keep the customers happy
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Probably a lot of TDS
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they are not being sold because they overachieved!!!!
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they are not being sold because they overachieved!!!!
tmbz1
Lot of paper getting burned!
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id take a few TDS. and you are right i bet there are some nice horses in this group.
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SC
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Was Propulsion the best horse that Alagna sold at public auction?
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The stock he is selling had all the chance to make the grade, especially with Tony training them. They have had every treatment known to man, vetted, every diagnostic test. You might find a diamond but there are probably some real nice raceway horses. I always sold all my 3 yr olds, either private or at Harrisburg. Same with 2 yr old's I didn't want. Stop the bills, reinvest in yearlings. Nothing in the scope of these guys. I hoped they'd do good either as race horses or broodmares. If anybody asked I told them the truth. Better for your reputation.
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starts with the best combo of quality and quantity but for the last few years has fallen short
can all those blue blooded horses all really be that bad
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Tony is an ok trainer, has all the best of everything
Call me old school but I like when the trainer actually sits behind the horse at least once a week.
Tony got too big
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Was Propulsion the best horse that Alagna sold at public auction?
That worked out really well for the next connections.
Not that that was really Alagna's fault.
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damn straight kole
exactly what happened
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Tony is a good horseman. You may not think he's sharp, but he certainly is not a dummy. I think his operation has gotten too big, and as a result, he's not producing as good results as he used to. For the stock he starts with, he's supposed to have two in every big dance, and win a good portion of them. I think he's had a sub-par year based upon his stock. In 2022, his stable earned over $9m. Last year his stable earned what, $7.5m? This year I just read he hasn't broke $5m. Tony certainly has carte blanche to spend, or pretty close to it. When I watch his babies come on to the track down in FL, it's like a who's who, big, good looking, impeccably bred, one after the other. But in recent years I don't think he's producing the results hoped for, expected, etc.
Now, buying Tony's cast-offs, well, that's another story. I made a living buying cast-off's when I first got into this business. I started buying from Haughton, a few from Dancer, and others. Then Silverman, Popfinger, and other big stables (at the time). If you buy their third string, you can buy some really solid, good raceway horses, and occasionally get lucky and hit a homerun. With Tony, the same thing. But you buy his second string and now you are buying horses that have had every advantage available----vet work, treatments, nutrition, etc. Sure, you'll occasionally find something, but it's more likely you'll gain an advantage because of "attention" and the horse getting more in a top-notch, quality, smaller barn than the horse would get with Tony. Buying his first string, is tough. Your goal is to keep 'em the same, and if you think your trainer is better, than maybe your trainer can improve him. It ain't easy, LOL. It's not like the horse didn't get anything and everything available.
I guess for me, if I was going to buy from Tony, like in the eye of any buyer, you have to feel you are getting value, there's an angle, and you think you can do better. Remember, there's plenty of 5% or 10% trainers to buy from, LOL.