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Title: Sylvain Filion
Post by: captain morgan on October 17, 2024, 11:43:40 AM
Stepping away from driving.Au Revoir you cheating fuck
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Brown jug on October 17, 2024, 11:52:58 AM
pushed away would be more accurate
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 17, 2024, 12:01:09 PM
Forced out, pushed out, suggested he step away, whatever anyone wants to call it...as of right now, nothing more than rumor, innuendo, and conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Lance on October 17, 2024, 12:07:58 PM
The guy has been a catch driver for over 25 years, he's 55 and still healthy and a young family.....why would you not want to retire?
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Brown jug on October 17, 2024, 12:49:35 PM
 no argument lance
only a few will know the real storey
i think jimmy takter said the same thing
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 17, 2024, 01:02:39 PM

 Pollock is going to wring his neck
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: mwins on October 17, 2024, 01:21:22 PM
This was planned for quite some time.
Stull a POS
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: LUCPARK on October 17, 2024, 03:18:12 PM
Pollock is going to wring his neck

 ngc3 ;D 73cv.2 ngc3
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 17, 2024, 04:25:42 PM
ngc3 ;D 73cv.2 ngc3

 Haha it won't happen, no balls
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: jupiter on October 17, 2024, 04:32:35 PM
The guy seems to be all in, he's still spending after the mediocre year they had with the a few million worth of babies. In for more this year, after the fucking he got with FTB. I guess he doesn't mind getting fucked over.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Any1Left on October 17, 2024, 04:59:46 PM
From all the WEG french men i would not put him close to the lead of crooked people in this game but as a few have said POS is how most really feel about this hall of fame driver but i do not feel this way and i do understand people feeling that way as people have the right to when they believe that they have been cheated,,,,,, He rarely closed holes and caused pace and this made for soft racing and today we have soft racing with fast times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 17, 2024, 06:45:43 PM
I won't speak to the reason(s) why, nor the rumors, innuendo, or conspiracy theories. However, I know Sylvain, and his dad, for a long time. I met them, like I did many Quebec horsemen, through Benoit Cote a very long time ago. So, I am not going to speak to anything that is private or confidential, and I will only speak to what I know is relatively public information.

That said, here's a little something that most people may not know...Sylvain and his wife/partner, Dominic (pronounced Dominique), have been together for a very long time. They knew each other as teenagers and they've been together for about 35 years. They are the proud parents of a beautiful young girl, Stella. However, the story begins, from very early on they were trying very hard to start a family. They continued for a very long time, and had a lot of difficulty. They spent a lot of time----a long time----going through what a lot of couples do when they have trouble conceiving. Unfortunately, they were unable to conceive, and after such a long time, and every possible effort and alternative, for a while they actually gave up on having a child the traditional way. They weren't sure that a child was in their future. However, they decided to adopt a child, which in Canada is a very difficult process.

After going through the entire, long process, they were finally given the opportunity to adopt a 3-month old girl. That little girl is their daughter, Stella. Today, Stella is (I think) 9 years old. So, Sylvain and Dominic became parents very late in life, certainly much later than they had thought, planned, and wanted. The gift of a child made a very substantial and positive impact in their lives. It was truly a gift, one they both cherish as much as possible.

All this, and more, being the case, it is not new that Sylvain is stepping away and moving back to Quebec. He's talked about before, for years. He said it publicly and in interviews for a couple of years now. He has always had a house in Quebec, on the same property as his parents, sister, and has talked about relocating back to Quebec, to be closer to family, and so that his daughter can go to school there (where they (also) speak and teach in French).

So, that's the story. I'll end it by saying-----if you don't believe me, no problem. I won't lose a wink of sleep. LOL. Google it. Go check it out yourself. It's all out there somewhere. If you don't believe me because I am anonymous and anyone making a claim should attach their real name to it so that people can judge their credibility, reputation, etc.; to that I say, no problem. Go google it. If you don't, it's because you are not interested in the truth, and more interested in throwing stones. A claim doesn't have to have a name attached to it if it can be independently verified. This can be. Go have it. If you don't want to google it, verify it for yourself, and throw stones, instigate a flame war, whatever, to that I say, no problem. Have a nice time. You'll be playing with yourself. It seems like a few of you enjoy that. LOL.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: seen2much on October 17, 2024, 07:46:44 PM
I have seen Syl make far to many questionable moves. The WEG driving circuit is not strong.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: dougie on October 17, 2024, 08:29:34 PM
Grandstand Handicapper.....I believe you. Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Mazola on October 17, 2024, 09:29:50 PM
I won't speak to the reason(s) why, nor the rumors, innuendo, or conspiracy theories. However, I know Sylvain, and his dad, for a long time. I met them, like I did many Quebec horsemen, through Benoit Cote a very long time ago. So, I am not going to speak to anything that is private or confidential, and I will only speak to what I know is relatively public information.

That said, here's a little something that most people may not know...Sylvain and his wife/partner, Dominic (pronounced Dominique), have been together for a very long time. They knew each other as teenagers and they've been together for about 35 years. They are the proud parents of a beautiful young girl, Stella. However, the story begins, from very early on they were trying very hard to start a family. They continued for a very long time, and had a lot of difficulty. They spent a lot of time----a long time----going through what a lot of couples do when they have trouble conceiving. Unfortunately, they were unable to conceive, and after such a long time, and every possible effort and alternative, for a while they actually gave up on having a child the traditional way. They weren't sure that a child was in their future. However, they decided to adopt a child, which in Canada is a very difficult process.

After going through the entire, long process, they were finally given the opportunity to adopt a 3-month old girl. That little girl is their daughter, Stella. Today, Stella is (I think) 9 years old. So, Sylvain and Dominic became parents very late in life, certainly much later than they had thought, planned, and wanted. The gift of a child made a very substantial and positive impact in their lives. It was truly a gift, one they both cherish as much as possible.

All this, and more, being the case, it is not new that Sylvain is stepping away and moving back to Quebec. He's talked about before, for years. He said it publicly and in interviews for a couple of years now. He has always had a house in Quebec, on the same property as his parents, sister, and has talked about relocating back to Quebec, to be closer to family, and so that his daughter can go to school there (where they (also) speak and teach in French).

So, that's the story. I'll end it by saying-----if you don't believe me, no problem. I won't lose a wink of sleep. LOL. Google it. Go check it out yourself. It's all out there somewhere. If you don't believe me because I am anonymous and anyone making a claim should attach their real name to it so that people can judge their credibility, reputation, etc.; to that I say, no problem. Go google it. If you don't, it's because you are not interested in the truth, and more interested in throwing stones. A claim doesn't have to have a name attached to it if it can be independently verified. This can be. Go have it. If you don't want to google it, verify it for yourself, and throw stones, instigate a flame war, whatever, to that I say, no problem. Have a nice time. You'll be playing with yourself. It seems like a few of you enjoy that. LOL.
Good post. Some people like to make unsubstantiated claims and out right lies about people. Unfortunately, that type of behaviour has been legitimized by so called leaders. 
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on October 17, 2024, 10:49:07 PM
Yves Filion has always been the one brother who bought well bred yearlings for 50 years. He’s had many top performers and saved his money . Regardless of the Funtime Bayama stuff he’s had many top horses . How many claimers has yves had in his career .He sells or moves them along . Sylvain has never ever been involved in races like his uncles Rheo , Herve or Henri . He’s never been flashy just steady and always brings you back a horse for next week . He’s not a drug trainer or a race fixer so forget about all your hypothetical reasons why he’s taking some time off .

Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Brown jug on October 17, 2024, 10:55:11 PM
everyone has their own opinion nd that is fair
i do not know the man and will not comment on him
however do not think the funtime bayama saga is over
i have no idea how much involvement the filions had in his training/suspension
but there is a connection there
weg/standardbred canada etc needs to show action, moreau obviously
they just elected sylvan filion to the hall of fame, do you think that within a year they wanted to suspend him if warranted
if they found cause/involvement they might have suggested he go away for a while
i am sure filion has wanted to go back to quebec, the funtime bayama circumstances might have moved that time up a little
who knows
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Any1Left on October 17, 2024, 11:22:29 PM
Yves Filion has always been the one brother who bought well bred yearlings for 50 years. He’s had many top performers and saved his money . Regardless of the Funtime Bayama stuff he’s had many top horses . How many claimers has yves had in his career .He sells or moves them along . Sylvain has never ever been involved in races like his uncles Rheo , Herve or Henri . He’s never been flashy just steady and always brings you back a horse for next week . He’s not a drug trainer or a race fixer so forget about all your hypothetical reasons why he’s taking some time off .
i agree with this post and very well said as yves was a true superstar horseman,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: firebolt on October 18, 2024, 12:02:08 AM
Let's see how this ages
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Any1Left on October 18, 2024, 12:31:28 AM
Yves never claimed horse and never did well with dropping horses into claimers but he did give horses to moreau and i am sure he knew that magic was going to happen but a first time Yves was never a huge improvement,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Scooteroo on October 18, 2024, 12:41:28 AM
When Yves drove at Brandywine Raceway decades ago, his stable consisted of mostly cheap claimers, in the $6000 to $10,000 range, he owned himself along with his partner Jacques Paquet, eventually he was able to upgrade his stable.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Any1Left on October 18, 2024, 12:59:57 AM
When Yves drove at Brandywine Raceway decades ago, his stable consisted of mostly cheap claimers, in the $6000 to $10,000 range, he owned himself and with his partner Jacques Paquet, eventually he was able to upgrade his stable.
before my time thanks as i never knew he was anywhere except MONTREAL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wHAT YEAR WAS THAT,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Scooteroo on October 18, 2024, 02:54:03 AM
The early 1970's. he also drove at Liberty Bell Park in PA too. He moved back to Quebec in 1975.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: mwins on October 18, 2024, 07:34:46 AM
So we can all agree. This move was planned well before the Fillion family defrauded Pollack, and framed Moreau.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Brown jug on October 18, 2024, 08:11:02 AM
you may have nailed it there m wins, guess time will tell...maybe ??
also to be clear funtime bayama was an oddity in terms of breeding
we all know that from time to time good /great horses come out of nowhere
funtime is a he's watching out of a very moderate(being kind) maternal pedigree
so not like the filions thought they were breeding a potential champion
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on October 18, 2024, 08:56:58 AM
you may have nailed it there m wins, guess time will tell...maybe ??
also to be clear funtime bayama was an oddity in terms of breeding
we all know that from time to time good /great horses come out of nowhere
funtime is a he's watching out of a very moderate(being kind) maternal pedigree
so not like the filions thought they were breeding a potential champion

Side note but the 2014 Pace Final is one of my favorite rewatches - when Timmy finally shakes free with He’s Watching - that horse looked like he was floating down the lane.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Lance on October 18, 2024, 09:07:20 AM
So we can all agree. This move was planned well before the Fillion family defrauded Pollack, and framed Moreau.

 I don't understand why people don't get this.  Filion has been a professional catch driver since 1988.  That's 36 years.  It's a very, very dangerous way to make a living. He has made a very good living, he's still young and healthy.  Why would you not want to step away???  The guy can still show up next June and drive until Oct. and still put up $1- $2 million.  Why would you want to go through this grind if you didn't have to.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Brown jug on October 18, 2024, 10:57:12 AM
no argument lance, valid  point
its just the funtime bayama thing makes it seem coincidental timing
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: wisha roder on October 18, 2024, 12:08:31 PM
A very good driver in a tough driving colony. Always a go to guy for me when betting.  Personally i didn’t bet him on favorites usually, but if you’re the type that always bets favorites then maybe you didn’t care for him.
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 18, 2024, 04:14:53 PM
A very good driver in a tough driving colony. Always a go to guy for me when betting.  Personally i didn’t bet him on favorites usually, but if you’re the type that always bets favorites then maybe you didn’t care for him.
You think mohawk is a tough driving colony? When the other drivers are in town they can barely compete unless they are chalk
Guys like Hanners, Beckwith, Myers, Wrenn would rise to the top in a heartbeat if mohawk ever chose to recruit new blood
Title: Re: Sylvain Filion
Post by: Onthefront11 on October 18, 2024, 04:27:11 PM
Good driver will be missed by some
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