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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Grandstand Handicapper on October 12, 2024, 10:52:14 AM
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Just more of part of the problems we have in our sport and industry.....
https://paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/view-from-the-eighth-pole-hbpa-bent-on-creating-chaos-and-disorder
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While I still feel there are and will be growing pains, HISA IMO is the answer. Yes, they and it needs to adapt more, and more collaboration is needed, but this type of decisiveness is a cancer. For years the industry's organizations did nothing. Now someone else is doing something. So the industry organizations say no, let us do it. After you've proved you can't? Won't? Chose not to?
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If I'm not mistaken, HISA was against any drugs in a horses bloodstream. There are some drugs that are a necessary evil, Altrenogest (Regumate), Omeprazole (Gastrogard), Sucralfate, Furosemide (Lasix). These drugs are good for the horse, and the betting public. I hate betting on mares that are showing heat!
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If I'm not mistaken, HISA was against any drugs in a horses bloodstream. There are some drugs that are a necessary evil, Altrenogest (Regumate), Omeprazole (Gastrogard), Sucralfate, Furosemide (Lasix). These drugs are good for the horse, and the betting public. I hate betting on mares that are showing heat!
I don't think it was absolutely zero. There are many drugs that are "allowed" under their guidelines----what is regulated is how they are used, when, etc. They have an entire set of rules/regulations, schedules, etc. The same for veterinary work, injections, and so on.
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Allow me to let you all in on a little secret. Everything we've seen here over the past five years is all self inflicted and more than deserved. For the most part there are two sides to it. The criminals who are in control of the industry, and the majority of horsemen who play mostly by the rules and are too scared to speak out. I don't care what anyone says, it's too late. You have a dead industry that the public will never support, it only survives by subsidy and welfare, then the last nail in the coffin will be government oversight. It's actually embarrassing. And for the most part everyone in the game knew it was coming and let it all happen. It will never fully evaporate, but it's shrinking every year. There's a few states that have figured out a new business model that somewhat works, but again they also are heavily backed by the states. As for others, you're seeing reality. You all just saw another track in NJ have the plug pulled just like that. Your leadership knew for years. Most of you were in the dark. What does that tell you???
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Allow me to let you all in on a little secret. Everything we've seen here over the past five years is all self inflicted and more than deserved. For the most part there are two sides to it. The criminals who are in control of the industry, and the majority of horsemen who play mostly by the rules and are too scared to speak out. I don't care what anyone says, it's too late. You have a dead industry that the public will never support, it only survives by subsidy and welfare, then the last nail in the coffin will be government oversight. It's actually embarrassing. And for the most part everyone in the game knew it was coming and let it all happen. It will never fully evaporate, but it's shrinking every year. There's a few states that have figured out a new business model that somewhat works, but again they also are heavily backed by the states. As for others, you're seeing reality. You all just saw another track in NJ have the plug pulled just like that. Your leadership knew for years. Most of you were in the dark. What does that tell you??? Good post and i agree,,,,,,,,
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Freehold is a shithole .
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Anyone ever search how many times this guy says "you guys out east"? Almost as if he's over trying to convince you all of something. Sun and Moon??? Hmmm....
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The article bemoans the federal government as possibly coming in and ruining the even playing field they worked so hard to create.
Huh, chemists under every rock is an even playing field for the betting public to wager on?
Delusional.
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Hisa or Hisa, the criminals are one step ahead.
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https://paulickreport.com/features/keeping-pace/keeping-pace-horse-racing-regulation-in-parallel-universes
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I agree yet the major thoroughbred tracks are thriving!
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I don't think the Southern California thoroughbred tracks are, in spite of their handle. Their maiden special weight only goes for $54,000 which is nothing compared to other tracks which handle their kind of money, especially with the high cost of living out there. In fact, in recent years, purses for most of their stake races have been cut to make up for an overpayment in purses.
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Wealth of knowledge........
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I don't think the Southern California thoroughbred tracks are, in spite of their handle. Their maiden special weight only goes for $54,000 which is nothing compared to other tracks which handle their kind of money, especially with the high cost of living out there. In fact, in recent years, purses for most of their stake races have been cut to make up for an overpayment in purses.
"only go for $54,000". What's the avg maiden race in harness?
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I'm comparing it to the top thoroughbred tracks like NY and Kentucky where they go for between $70,000 and $100,000.
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I'm comparing it to the top thoroughbred tracks like NY and Kentucky where they go for between $70,000 and $100,000.
Don't the state-bred maidens go for a lot more?
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State-breds in NY go for $90,000. I would say I don't know about Kentucky but then my shadow would show-up and post, he thought I knew everything! The California tracks had been overpaying their purses for years, so now they're getting it back by lowering their purse structure.
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When i was a kid i went to the circus , Barnum and baileys the greatest show on earth and everyone in the crowd had a huge smile from start to finish and then many years later 60 minutes and other shows showed the public the reality of the greatest show on earth and the next time i went 30 years later there were about 40 PITA people protesting outside and then poof the greatest show was no more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, This game will not survive an attack like the attack on Barnum AND baileys when it happens as its much uglier with the hidden deaths for no reason of these equine horses and the game will have more and more HISA type groups enter the fray,,,,,,,,,,Breeders crown day today was a snooze fest and had no one in the crowd,,,,,,,,Single file races on the biggest week in racing and the poorest show on earth and everyone sees it as boring and the same group runs the game with different first names but the same last names and this trend will never end,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Change will come when slots get pulled and its to late and who will pay 80k a year to own a horse with smaller purses,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Everybody wants to invest to make money and even the people getting killed and love the game are still hoping to make money and when people think that the thousand people that are with AMAC HAVE GIANT SMILES on are out of touch with reality,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Go tell JOHN GRANT that he will own the beat three horses in the world and they will be geldings and he will lose 3 million a year but be leading owner in north AMERICA AND HE WILL PASS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, No one will go into a business knowing its a 100 percent loss and if you ever watch SHARK TANK and see someone come on with a product that can save lives but not make money they will not see an offer and that is reality,,,,,,,,,,,,,How many people if asked would want to own 1 percent of the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS And know they will get pictures and be part of a championship team but it will cost them 100k a year and you are talking super bowl and if you had 3 million would you be in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,