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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Billsmafia on September 28, 2024, 06:42:37 PM
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Ten Reasons Why Harness Racing Isn’t So Special Anymore
10. I live near the Batavia-Buffalo circuit. There’s too much single file racing. It’s easy to doze off between the quarter pole and five-eighths marker; nothing is happening. Races on half mile tracks are frequently unwatchable.
9. Most announcers are inept. A couple good ones can’t save the day for the others.
8. It’s 2024. Can we please do away with all whips during a race? Too many drivers abuse it, It’s not a good look for the sport. Look at the weekly fines for whipping violations.
7. I feel badly for the honest trainers who are trying to make a living, while competing with chemists. I don’t agree with Jeff Gural on everything but he’s been trying to clean up his tracks.
6. There’s no fun in a trip to the racetrack anymore. Most racetracks (not all) have just become TV studios for various wagering sites. Want a decent meal at a racetrack? Good luck.
5. Using beards is common and unconscionable.
4. Suspending a trainer for 30 days (or whatever) means nothing. They still do what they do even with another person, often a spouse or other relative, listed as trainer. More of an effort is made to not get caught again.
3. Cameras on track are amazing, but not in a good way. Why are so many tracks having jittery camera people employed? Or is it the equipment? It seems to be a recent phenomena. It’s bizarre and unwatchable.
2. I would love consistency from track to track with pylon and passing lane violations. I’ve seen instances where I was sure a horse was going to be taken down and it wasn’t and vice versa. Why not have judges explain all their decisions to the betting public? Most judges try to do the right thing based on their jurisdiction but more communication would go a long way.
1. More information please! Has a horse been fighting illness or lameness? Has a horse been receiving a legal supplement for the first time? Did a horse train really well or really poorly? Trainers know; their inner circle knows, but most betters don’t. Track owners should be required to be more transparent in the information provided on the programs. It's difficult but not impossible. Look at the NFL and all the wagering that takes place every game. You know 48 hours before game time if Patrick Mahomes stubs his toe.
I’m sure there are more reasons. In spite of it all, the sport is still special to me. Just not as special as it used to be.
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Only 1reason needed, to many drugs in horses. Comes down to whoever has the better drugs and how much is used in that horse that night.
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Bill. You hit 7 or 8 nails on the head!
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tmbz1 Right on point harness racing is boring especially on a half mile
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No wonder freehold is closing Saratoga won’t be far behind
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The number one reason is the accessibility to numerous alternant gambling.
Lottery has greatly expanded over the last 25 years
Casino's within a couple hours drive nearly everywhere, when I grew up you had to go to Vegas on Atlantic City
Illegal gambling/bingo halls. I live 10 minutes from one, go by there at 3 am and there will still be close to 100 cars.
Legalized sports betting.
I'm sure others can name more, but to me this is the main reason.
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Video killed the radio star
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biggest problem.......the re is no need for a card to take 5 hours.lets be honest most betting is off track and people would get their bets in.i lose interest in between races and barely watch after first 5/6 races.no reason they need over 20 minutes between races
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Here's my reasons why it's not special to me anymore
Slots took away the dead money
Attendance of thousands is now more like dozens
Simulcasting diluted the overall product
Scandals that literally affect the betting public from fixed races to drugs
Way too many short fields
Too many betting options that dilute the pools
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The old people who used to go all the time are dying and no one has replaced them. If you weren't brought up on horse racing you have no interest.
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The old people who used to go all the time are dying and no one has replaced them. If you weren't brought up on horse racing you have no interest.
tmbz1
Very well put
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This is an excellent post and all the replies are correct.
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tmbz1
Very well put
I DOUBLE THAT.
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1. More information please! Has a horse been fighting illness or lameness? Has a horse been receiving a legal supplement for the first time? Did a horse train really well or really poorly? Trainers know; their inner circle knows, but most betters don’t. Track owners should be required to be more transparent in the information provided on the programs. It's difficult but not impossible. Look at the NFL and all the wagering that takes place every game. You know 48 hours before game time if Patrick Mahomes stubs his toe.
Inside Harness is trying to provide that real time info just need more Trainers and Drivers to logon each day and take 2 minutes to help the industry grow!
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Here's my reasons why it's not special to me anymore
Slots took away the dead money
Attendance of thousands is now more like dozens
Simulcasting diluted the overall product
Scandals that literally affect the betting public from fixed races to drugs
Way too many short fields
Too many betting options that dilute the pools
This is my biggest complaint is the time between races, people want a product that moves a long and gives them action. Less time between races.
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My biggest complaint is races start an average of 5 minutes past scheduled post time, wasn't like that in the old days. They think it increases the handle, but it doesn't because people just bet later. If they knew the races were starting on time they would adjust.
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Sports betting being legal now practically everywhere and you can bet any game, any time from your phone. I'm a lifelong horseplayer and I never bet sports in my life until it became legal, and now a couple of years later by horse racing handle is down 75%.
How many other people are out there just like me?
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Great post,,,,,,,,, number one problem is ELITE TURF CLUB allowed access to the pools and no one can beat their AI advantage and just as important is the powers that run horse racing the management are corrupt and make decision that are poor as much of management in this sport are breeders that never use a non chemist to train their horses and until a outside body of people that fully understand gaming run the show we will see a shit show,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Today we see a video of old lady falling and people just walking around her like nothing is wrong and that is the story of horse racing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You can say that its not anybody fault the old lady is on the ground and its not up to me to get involved and the law will be with you but is it right......
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People saying 1/2 mile track racing is boring.
Can I ask is there a more boring single file racing
track than Mohawk.
When the top drivers are in town for stake races etc
there is a lot more action but on a regular basis????
Oh on top of that the buddy system is out of control.
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Eventually when you have watched enough races throughout the years all the races start to look the same just the names change. The excitement becomes lost.
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Only 1reason needed, to many drugs in horses. Comes down to whoever has the better drugs and how much is used in that horse that night.
DRUGS
DRUGS
CROOKS & MORE CROOKS WITH DRUGS YOU HAVE PENDING MAJOR POSITIVES IN DELAWARE & MARYLAND TRACKS WITH A DRUG THAT WILL DROP A HUMAN DEAD WITH A SUPPLIER THEY ALL FEAR , AND DEALS ONLY IN CASHOLA HE WALKS WITH NO PAPER TRAIL AND THEY GET SUSPENDED OR BARRED get a bad REPUTATION AND NO INCOME ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Their a SPECIAL KIND OF STUPIED AND CLAIM THE FOUR HORMAN BLEEDER POWDER WAS TAINTED ..I SMELL LAW SUIT FOR SLANDER AMONG DEFAMATION OF PRODUCT Not Sounding Good fellas
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The number one reason is the accessibility to numerous alternant gambling.
Lottery has greatly expanded over the last 25 years
Casino's within a couple hours drive nearly everywhere, when I grew up you had to go to Vegas on Atlantic City
Illegal gambling/bingo halls. I live 10 minutes from one, go by there at 3 am and there will still be close to 100 cars.
Legalized sports betting.
I'm sure others can name more, but to me this is the main reason.
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
You can sit down at a blackjack table and play 10 hands in 10 minutes, 10 races take all night plus with zero minutes to post you still have 20 minutes to wait for them to start racing.
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Video killed the radio star
Buggles
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How come people haven't mentioned that the payoffs are super low. Some days the highest payoff is around 4.00 for a win bet. Also the pools are lower and lower each year. I really don't think harness can keep up with all of these tracks, because one day the casino money will disappear or certainly be lowered.
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Many people in high positions trying to kill the game, that's what hurts racing.