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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: The Answer on August 18, 2024, 01:36:36 PM
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NT horse scratched last night for groom rubbing blue lotion on before the race. Security guard noticed and notified judges. Saw her screaming and was wondering why. 🤨🤬🤬
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NT horse scratched last night for groom rubbing blue lotion on before the race. Security guard noticed and notified judges. Saw her screaming and was wondering why. 🤨🤬🤬
That is ridiculous. If it was just blue lotion, then Nancy should sue the track.
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Overboard again, protecting the betting public. Just plain stupid.
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Overboard again, protecting the betting public. Just plain stupid.
Probably half the field racing on EPO and the other half on synthetic morphine but they caught someone using Ben Gay.
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NT horse scratched last night for groom rubbing blue lotion on before the race. Security guard noticed and notified judges. Saw her screaming and was wondering why. 🤨🤬🤬
What track and horse?
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Sorry. you don't get to choose which rules you think are legitimate. That's not the way any game or sport works.
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What track and horse?
Mohawk last night, Race 10 #1
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I have been told there is a rule up there that has been in place forever: NO liniments or leg paints allowed in the paddock.
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https://standardbredcanada.ca/sites/default/files/2024-08/SJR-Mohawk-August-17-2024.pdf
In Race 10, #1 Civilian Drone was a Judges scratch in accordance with AGCO Rule
6.53(a) while in the paddock.
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That is ridiculous. If it was just blue lotion, then Nancy should sue the track.
First off it wasn't groom it was Nancy herself with a thick rubber glove. My guess is it had more than blue lotion in it. She knows the rules and they are very very clear in Canada - No liniments in the paddock. Why would you scream and yell when you damn sure know the rule?
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They should of took it and sent it out to a lab to see what was in it.
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I would hope so too. Probably blue lotion DMSO / cortisone / and what ever else yimmy thought he could get away with. Many people forget yimmy was caught with loaded syringes years ago but because john fielding was on the board of weg he got off!
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I would hope so too. Probably blue lotion DMSO / cortisone / and what ever else yimmy thought he could get away with. Many people forget yimmy was caught with loaded syringes years ago but because john fielding was on the board of weg he got off!
If i remember right it was in the detention barn. Should have used yogurt.
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A girl got caught with a tube of bute paste, think it might have been at Woodbine, or Mohawk.
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I would hope so too. Probably blue lotion DMSO / cortisone / and what ever else yimmy thought he could get away with. Many people forget yimmy was caught with loaded syringes years ago but because john fielding was on the board of weg he got off!
Empty syringes and Jimmy wasn't even in the country. And no he didn't get off.
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Blue lotion is a remedy for crabs.
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Blue-Emu
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I would hope so too. Probably blue lotion DMSO / cortisone / and what ever else yimmy thought he could get away with. Many people forget yimmy was caught with loaded syringes years ago but because john fielding was on the board of weg he got off!
Empty syringes and Jimmy wasn't even in the country. And no he didn't get off.
Thanks Ramone.....Sounds like conflicting claims here.....and someone disagrees with Miguel's portrayal of his opinions as facts.....and it seems pretty simple....either the syringes were empty or not, and the other part is even more simple, either Jimmy was in the country or not. When did this incident happen?
Any published ruling on this? Pretty big accusation there by Miguel. I would think he would provide back up and some proof of this claim.
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Blue lotion is a remedy for crabs.
That is Blue-Star ointment. I have used it.
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Thanks Ramone.....Sounds like conflicting claims here.....and someone disagrees with Miguel's portrayal of his opinions as facts.....and it seems pretty simple....either the syringes were empty or not, and the other part is even more simple, either Jimmy was in the country or not. When did this incident happen?
Any published ruling on this? Pretty big accusation there by Miguel. I would think he would provide back up and some proof of this claim.
I found this written on Copilot:
Trainer Jimmy Takter was fined for having a syringe in his truck while entering the detention area at Woodbine. This area is typically under strict surveillance to ensure the integrity of the races and the safety of the horses. The filly involved in this incident is owned by David Wilmot.
Such incidents are taken very seriously in the horse racing community as they can impact the fairness of the competition and the welfare of the horses.
_________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ ______
I can remember reading on this issue many years ago. There was a lot of anger because the filly was allowed to race in a big purse stake race. Of course, the owner David Wilmont was an owner & he was the head guy at WEG & there were accusations of preferential treatment. To make matters worse a small-time trainer a few days later was forced to scratch their filly because they did not list applesauce on the feed list when entering the detention area.
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I found this written on Copilot:
Trainer Jimmy Takter was fined for having a syringe in his truck while entering the detention area at Woodbine. This area is typically under strict surveillance to ensure the integrity of the races and the safety of the horses. The filly involved in this incident is owned by David Wilmot.
Such incidents are taken very seriously in the horse racing community as they can impact the fairness of the competition and the welfare of the horses.
_________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ ______
I can remember reading on this issue many years ago. There was a lot of anger because the filly was allowed to race in a big purse stake race. Of course, the owner David Wilmont was an owner & he was the head guy at WEG & there were accusations of preferential treatment. To make matters worse a small-time trainer a few days later was forced to scratch their filly because they did not list applesauce on the feed list when entering the detention area.
Not familiar with copilot, but it doesn't matter-----if all that's true, all the more reason for justice. I have no idea if this is the same incident or not, but regardless, preferential treatment will be the downfall of any business. Gural takes the same heat for preferential treatment of Burke. I remember reading a position he took on it and I don't know how it played out.
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From HRU, specifically, a letter written by Jeff Gural:
"As far as all of the complaints I have received about the perception that there is a double standard when it comes to Ron Burke, I want to publically make it clear to Mr. Burke and all of his owners that he will receive a 90-day suspension from the three tracks that I control if the appeal of the latest violation he received at Northfield is denied. In addition, if Mr. Burke receives another suspension, he will automatically, regardless of the appeal process, receive a minimum of a 90- day suspension; and if it is a Class 1, Class 2 or TCO2 positive and he appeals, all of the owners who stay with him would run the risk of not being eligible to any stakes races at my tracks for one year. I believe that would also apply to WEG, but I do not speak for them. No sport can possibly expect the public to support their product and wager on it if they don't have confidence that the horses are all racing on a level playing field. Unfortunately, we all know that is not the case right now, but hopefully that will change in the near future. ?
Jeff Gural / president Meadowlands Racetrack"
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru012019.pdf
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It already is a level playing field.
They are all using something.
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I found this written on Copilot:
Trainer Jimmy Takter was fined for having a syringe in his truck while entering the detention area at Woodbine. This area is typically under strict surveillance to ensure the integrity of the races and the safety of the horses. The filly involved in this incident is owned by David Wilmot.
Such incidents are taken very seriously in the horse racing community as they can impact the fairness of the competition and the welfare of the horses.
_________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ ______
I can remember reading on this issue many years ago. There was a lot of anger because the filly was allowed to race in a big purse stake race. Of course, the owner David Wilmont was an owner & he was the head guy at WEG & there were accusations of preferential treatment. To make matters worse a small-time trainer a few days later was forced to scratch their filly because they did not list applesauce on the feed list when entering the detention area.
Thank you - Yimmy's truck and Yimmy drove it! There was not "I'm not in the country BS" Yimmy has always been able to get his way out of trouble. Malabar Man soda on Hambo day, The EPO positives that got swept under the rug from the Meadowlands. How about when they came to farm for testing the horses were no where to be found because the grass is better 500 miles away LOL
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Thank you - Yimmy's truck and Yimmy drove it! There was not "I'm not in the country BS"
No he was not in Canada but it scarcely matters. He was the trainer of record and under the the trainer absolute liability rule he was absolutely guilty. There were two fillies brought north for I think The Elegantimage Stakes (long time ago). He was given the option to scratch them both but chose to race them. He was fined $10,000 which was probably appropriate.
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I don't know what is in the lotion. Who would be surprised if it was something that enhanced the horse's performance? Takter is racing against Burke, Pelling, & others. They are not Angels & Takter has a past too.
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She needs to be banded
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I wonder what else she uses that thick rubber glove for.
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Other stuff ? Grooms pee, sawdust, drugs from grooms hands like metformin, coke, weed, the little blue pill or whatever. I don’t trust her or her Daddy. Blue lotion ? Get a life….
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NT horse scratched last night for groom rubbing blue lotion on before the race. Security guard noticed and notified judges. Saw her screaming and was wondering why. 🤨🤬🤬
those punjabi cant spell horse..maybe a rat...
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The RMTC reported on a new initiative between the Meadowlands and WEG for a universale, clear-cut "rule"......I don't know if it ever got implemented or what......this was back in 2028......
https://rmtcnet.com/owners-focus-tough-new-weg-big-m-rule-harness-racing-update-1-7-18/
And then, WEG wanted more time to vet the rule:
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru020918.pdf
As much as I admire and respect what Gural has done, it's the selective banning that I do not like. Optics or reality, neither is good; although he said he would take a definitive stance on Burke after that OH positive......
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru012019.pdf
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The RMTC reported on a new initiative between the Meadowlands and WEG for a universale, clear-cut "rule"......I don't know if it ever got implemented or what......this was back in 2028......
https://rmtcnet.com/owners-focus-tough-new-weg-big-m-rule-harness-racing-update-1-7-18/
And then, WEG wanted more time to vet the rule:
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru020918.pdf
As much as I admire and respect what Gural has done, it's the selective banning that I do not like. Optics or reality, neither is good; although he said he would take a definitive stance on Burke after that OH positive......
https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru012019.pdf
2028?????? You can see the future?
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No he was not in Canada but it scarcely matters. He was the trainer of record and under the the trainer absolute liability rule he was absolutely guilty. There were two fillies brought north for I think The Elegantimage Stakes (long time ago). He was given the option to scratch them both but chose to race them. He was fined $10,000 which was probably appropriate.
Someone posted on this forum a few years ago it was the 2004 Roses are Red final when Yimmy was caught with syringes
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Ahhh, remember the old days, Rickens foot freeze, DMSO, Blue Lotion etc. right in everybody's paddock bucket. The good old days.
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Ahhh, remember the old days, Rickens foot freeze, DMSO, Blue Lotion etc. right in everybody's paddock bucket. The good old days.
Correct. You could smell that stuff from a mile away.
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surely to god one of the mental midgets working there thought to take some of the blue lotion and have it tested
whose in charge anyway
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Come on, this is harness racing. They will only go so far. NO bad publicity
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2028?????? You can see the future?
That is 2018! If only right. LOL.
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2028?????? You can see the future?
I'm glad at least 1 person can! LOL
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Someone posted on this forum a few years ago it was the 2004 Roses are Red final when Yimmy was caught with syringes
Southwind Allaire. Empty syringes with blood in them. 6 day suspension so horse could race in the final the next week.
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Southwind Allaire. Empty syringes with blood in them. 6 day suspension so horse could race in the final the next week.
Yes total sham job. IF and that's IF you were injecting a horse on your farm why would you take a used syringe and put in your truck? It would go in trash right? I don't see Yimmy as being a lazy or dirty person that didn't throw his stuff away. So the syringes were used on the horses that were in the trailer or in Canada. No one ever talks about when hambo society went to test for oaks and hambo and they were no where to be found and they were eating grass at some farm in PA