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Title: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 08:16:26 AM
Harness Racing stands in the same line with illegal immigrants and junkies living off people who work.  tmbz1
And just over $360k on Saturday night.
May as well just stand in the racino and pick everyone's pockets.
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Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 08:18:57 AM
But it's money well spent and invested into an industry that supports agriculture.
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 tmbz1
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Deadbeat on June 30, 2024, 08:27:04 AM
Says the guy living off of welfare and handouts.

Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 08:31:16 AM
Says the guy living off of welfare and handouts.

Prove it.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 08:34:39 AM
Welfare by the hundreds of millions. Cleaning stalls is not skilled labor. Veterans live on streets while horse killers think they contribute to society.
https://www.timesunion.com/projects/2022/new-york-horse-racing-subsidies
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Deadbeat on June 30, 2024, 08:40:40 AM



Sure. Here you go.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/harness-horse-revolution?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Stan durbread on June 30, 2024, 08:59:20 AM
Harness Racing stands in the same line with illegal immigrants and junkies living off people who work.  tmbz1
And just over $360k on Saturday night.
May as well just stand in the racino and pick everyone's pockets.
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Prove me wrong.

What people that work are horsemen living off. ?? A few billionaires from Vegas is about it. Except for NJ.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:06:55 AM


Sure. Here you go.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/harness-horse-revolution?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

Money used to fight scumbags like you. Why should I pay out of my pocket? Which I did for over a year. Also, those people CHOSE to chip in as opposed to EVERY penny you lowlives steal from the states. Try again. Your only defense is accuse me of eating the cake while you're covered in chocolate? 3k as opposed to hundreds of millions a year to support an ENTIRE industry of unskilled "workers" who refuse to find a living in the real world. Yeah, you're breaking my heart. BTW half the workers in harness racing are illegal, deal with it.
P.S. Been at this for two years? Divide what was taken in by 730, comes out to $3.79 a day. Yeah, I'm the crook.  ngc3
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:12:24 AM
What people that work are horsemen living off. ?? A few billionaires from Vegas is about it. Except for NJ.

I guess money that could be earmarked for far more deserving individuals. Tax breaks and exemptions. Bullshit AG funds. VLTs. Casino subsidy. Sportsbooks. Screw people like the military, veterans, firefighters, nurses, police, teachers all of whom are FAR more valuable than horse killers. Show me that isn't true. I can provide thousands of examples of the end result of your welfare sport. Breed em' use em' kill em'. Only a matter of time until the free rides end. Only people who will be hurt are the silent and decent horsemen who are too scared to speak up and rid the game of the scumbags. Even then, the public wants no part of it, it will never stand on its own again. Facts. Stanturdbread.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:14:57 AM
Brought to you by Harness Welfare Incorporated.  tmbz1
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Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:18:10 AM
What people that work are horsemen living off. ?? A few billionaires from Vegas is about it. Except for NJ.
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Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Brown jug on June 30, 2024, 09:22:14 AM
good points mike
much better we send the money to the Ukraine to the man in sweat pants so he can wash it and return it to political crooks
hahahaha
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:25:56 AM
good points mike
much better we send the money to the Ukraine to the man in sweat pants so he can wash it and return it to political crooks
hahahaha
Then vote him and his gang out. I don't see anyone bailing out the mom and pop businesses destroyed by big box stores or online shopping. People who actually built from the ground up, never hurt a horse doing it, never bought and sold federally controlled substances and never defrauded the public while being supported by welfare. Your leaders in racing have done nothing to promote the sport, only cry for handouts.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 09:39:53 AM
And while you losers try to convince yourselves that you deserve the free ride and your so called industry is necessary. More Standardbreds end up like this each year than actually raced. But you all make a ton of money and don't mooch like I do.  ngc3
You don't give a flying flip about the animals, if you did they wouldn't end up in meat grinders, pulling buggies, pulling carriages only to end up dying a miserable death anyway. Guess this one wasn't in "Full Circle". Good work, you all deserve it. Bravoooooo
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Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Janny on June 30, 2024, 12:23:47 PM
MP you’re like the ranting old guy in the neighborhood shouting at kids from his porch.

Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 12:44:52 PM
MP you’re like the ranting old guy in the neighborhood shouting at kids from his porch.

And the old man isn't killing horses or living off a welfare supported industry that kills the horses it uses. Just facts.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: COME ON MAN on June 30, 2024, 12:58:16 PM
FACT is that you have never supported your family/kids you MUTT

This FACT does not change whether I post my name or not you MUTT

Not one person here owes you to tell you who they are you stupid CUNT
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Calhoun on June 30, 2024, 01:05:18 PM


Sure. Here you go.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/harness-horse-revolution?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
LucPark donated $5. 

ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 01:16:05 PM
FACT is that you have never supported your family/kids you MUTT

This FACT does not change whether I post my name or not you MUTT

Not one person here owes you to tell you who they are you stupid CUNT

You can't post your name as per the agreement.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Gaagoots on June 30, 2024, 01:38:23 PM
FACT is that you have never supported your family/kids you MUTT

This FACT does not change whether I post my name or not you MUTT

Not one person here owes you to tell you who they are you stupid CUNT
He really is pathetic! That’s a perfect word for him. He’s nothing but a fucking Mutt along with being a rat bastard.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness racer on June 30, 2024, 02:37:08 PM
Welfare by the hundreds of millions. Cleaning stalls is not skilled labor. Veterans live on streets while horse killers think they contribute to society.
https://www.timesunion.com/projects/2022/new-york-horse-racing-subsidies

I've agreed the entire time to stop handing out tax dollars on horse racing.
 But aren't your main duties cleaning stalls and cutting grass? 
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: rainman2 on June 30, 2024, 02:54:11 PM
Welfare by the hundreds of millions. Cleaning stalls is not skilled labor. Veterans live on streets while horse killers think they contribute to society.
https://www.timesunion.com/projects/2022/new-york-horse-racing-subsidies

Many trainers can’t get adequate help that they desperately need!!
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 04:18:01 PM
I've agreed the entire time to stop handing out tax dollars on horse racing.
 But aren't your main duties cleaning stalls and cutting grass?
Oh is that what you think? Think again. Or better yet. Stop by and see for yourself.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 04:19:32 PM
He really is pathetic! That’s a perfect word for him. He’s nothing but a fucking Mutt along with being a rat bastard.

Tell us how Mark Philanthropist Ford works as a membership director of the USTA again... ngc3
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: CMJAnew on June 30, 2024, 08:26:09 PM
Speaking harness racing….hows that one you recently trained back. Seems I recall you saying something to the effect; he’s ready to qualify. Lying through your teeth again…..or just talking out of both sides of your mouth?
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 30, 2024, 08:36:01 PM
Speaking harness racing….hows that one you recently trained back. Seems I recall you saying something to the effect; he’s ready to qualify. Lying through your teeth again…..or just talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Hmm. Well since I literally had video in the cart with me. I did my part. How's that lying? Does booze skew reality that bad?
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: CMJAnew on June 30, 2024, 09:05:52 PM
Hmm. Well since I literally had video in the cart with me. I did my part. How's that lying? Does booze skew reality that bad?

Er Uh……getting a horse ready to possibly compete in the business you despise. I can see clearly now.
And while in the city, interviewing a carriage driver, you ‘casually’ mentioned your active involvement in that same despised business.
Yup….im still a troll — pointing out the PetrelLIES as they occur.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Wild bull on June 30, 2024, 09:12:01 PM
How to say I'm jealous without saying it fucking loser
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Gaagoots on June 30, 2024, 10:54:06 PM
Er Uh……getting a horse ready to possibly compete in the business you despise. I can see clearly now.
And while in the city, interviewing a carriage driver, you ‘casually’ mentioned your active involvement in that same despised business.
Yup….im still a troll — pointing out the PetrelLIES as they occur.
And you have the gullible ones on this website that actually think he's credible.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: SwankToliverA on June 30, 2024, 11:46:50 PM
And you have the gullible ones on this website that actually think he's credible.

I'm not gullible Gaag, but Mike is credible.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Brown jug on July 01, 2024, 10:29:20 AM
fyi mp
my  horses live/are treated  better than you
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Gaagoots on July 01, 2024, 10:33:22 AM
I'm not gullible Gaag, but Mike is credible.
👍 I’m sure your not gullible
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: TheGrimReaper on July 01, 2024, 10:50:17 AM
I am always right because I use bold type and large print.  He who yells the loudest is always right.  What a bunch of bullshit.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness racer on July 01, 2024, 12:33:47 PM
👍 I’m sure your not gullible

There is a fine line between gullible and stupid!  ngc3
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 02, 2024, 04:47:49 AM
Er Uh……getting a horse ready to possibly compete in the business you despise. I can see clearly now.
And while in the city, interviewing a carriage driver, you ‘casually’ mentioned your active involvement in that same despised business.
Yup….im still a troll — pointing out the PetrelLIES as they occur.

Wrong again blows over the limit man.
Am I racing him? Nope.
Did I charge the owner to train him down? Nope, it's fun.
When we leased him out it was a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT lease.
No you're not a troll, you're a fool.
So CMJAKNEW nothing again.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: CMJAnew on July 02, 2024, 05:20:37 AM
Wrong again blows over the limit man.
Am I racing him? Nope.
Did I charge the owner to train him down? Nope, it's fun.
When we leased him out it was a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT lease.
No you're not a troll, you're a fool.
So CMJAKNEW nothing again.

LOL…I see. Just playing around the edges of the sport…..while playing with words.
And, as for your statement to the carriage guy?
Still sounds like a couple PetrelLIEs to me.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: rainman2 on July 02, 2024, 05:50:48 AM
So Vernon and Monticello are welfare to horsemen?
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Superfecta on July 02, 2024, 07:23:11 AM
So Vernon and Monticello are welfare to horsemen?

YES. It will end soon and the once Mighty M will be part of the 17B grave yard.
Vernon will end as soon as Mr Hypocrite dies and I think he’s in his 90’s.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 02, 2024, 05:36:25 PM
So Vernon and Monticello are welfare to horsemen?

It's simple economics. When an "industry" loses money every minute and is propped up by revenue pumped in from the outside with absolutely no return to the donors, that's welfare. Though most in harness racing believe they are entitled to it. Screw those people in the real world who save lives or risk their own for the general public and get nothing when they're in trouble. #StallCleanersLivesMatter #HorseKillersLivesMatter #CriminalsArePeopleToo
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on July 02, 2024, 05:52:41 PM
Debating the "welfare" argument is fallacious at best. Obviously the harness industry today is reliant upon "other" sources of monies. I couldn't care less if it's true subsidies from the state, supplemental monies to the purse account, payments for not having VLT's or other gambling, or whatever. However, if the people who run race tracks continue to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to reality----then yes, one day they may find themselves out of business. No, not Gulfstream, and not the Meadowlands, and not a key few others.

They will eventually turn to "alternative revenue sources" -- entertainment, hospitality, real estate, and yes, casinos. My hope is that a track that is owned and operated by a real horseman, like Gural, get a casino. I also don't want to see a company that owns a racetrack, that starts out as a company that is focused on racing, transition and abandon racing simply to become a casino company. I think these examples will be Gulfstream, the Meadowlands, Woodbine/Mohawk, probably one or two of the tracks in PA, and as far as the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic, too much political football, and CD is the lion who will eat what they kill. I'd like to see Santa Anita and Del Mar survive and thrive but I don't know if they will ever get the breathing room from the legislation, which is so stacked in the favor of the Indian tribes. NY is a bit of the same.
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 06, 2024, 08:57:01 AM
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Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 06, 2024, 09:06:47 AM
There. I just saved your "industry".  ngc3
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Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 06, 2024, 07:43:50 PM

 But you don't have a pot to piss in, you have never donated to any charity in your life. You're the grifter, drifter.

 Never met a hand out you didn't like...
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 06, 2024, 07:47:43 PM
But you don't have a pot to piss in, you have never donated to any charity in your life. You're the grifter, drifter.

 Never met a hand out you didn't like...

Prove it. Same way I can prove your entire industry survives off donations. Post your name .then post the proof. Other than that you existence is so empty you need to continue to hide and piss in the wind.  tmbz1
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Brown jug on July 06, 2024, 07:59:56 PM
mp
time to move on my friend
you are just regurgitating the same dribble
take a vacation or go play golf
Title: Re: The New York State Of Welfare
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on July 06, 2024, 08:08:48 PM
mp
time to move on my friend
you are just regurgitating the same dribble
take a vacation or go play golf

Correct. Because facts never change. Only lies do.
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