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Title: Who is the best horseman you ever knew personally?
Post by: balmoralfan on June 26, 2024, 07:22:26 AM
Rule is 1 name only please.

TONY MORGAN

Great driver, excellent trainer, pretty good vet (learned from his momma).
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 26, 2024, 07:42:57 AM
Peter Blood
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Post by: Meadow Ford on June 26, 2024, 07:48:18 AM
The Squire of Meadow Lands Farm and The Meadows.
Delvin G Miller
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Post by: mwins on June 26, 2024, 07:49:47 AM
Randy Waples.
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Post by: Facts on June 26, 2024, 07:56:16 AM
Remmens
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Post by: Mohawk mac on June 26, 2024, 08:13:29 AM
Brian Pinske  tmbz1
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Post by: Meadow Ford on June 26, 2024, 08:21:12 AM
The Squire of Meadow Lands Farm and The Meadows.
Delvin G Miller
A little Del Miller trivia.
His colors were brown and gold(Shit and straw),
Anyone know were they came from?
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Post by: MOHAWK FREAK on June 26, 2024, 09:11:25 AM
Great horseman. Pete Leu
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Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2024, 09:16:29 AM
erv miller tmbz1
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Post by: Papillon on June 26, 2024, 09:58:13 AM
George Teague tmbz1
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Post by: Way to go on June 26, 2024, 10:11:09 AM
Come on ....EPO ,Growth hormones ,Equipoise ,Winstrol V...that makes you a great horseman......can hardly get one qualified anymore
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Post by: Yonkers1A on June 26, 2024, 11:00:30 AM
Lou Pascuti
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Post by: Jazzman on June 26, 2024, 12:21:18 PM
brad maxwell only guy i ever worked with that was smarter than me lol
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Post by: shuffledagain on June 26, 2024, 12:25:56 PM
Blair Burgess
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Post by: White Rabbit on June 26, 2024, 01:01:14 PM
Hands down Brett Pelling
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Post by: Harness Stats on June 26, 2024, 01:46:12 PM
Got invited to dinner at the Big M by King Myron.  That was another lifetime though. It was at least 25 years before he got "crowned"
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Post by: mwins on June 26, 2024, 02:23:23 PM
Got invited to dinner at the Big M by King Myron.  That was another lifetime though. It was at least 25 years before he got "crowned"

Biggest douchebag I ever met.
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 26, 2024, 03:25:31 PM
brad maxwell only guy i ever worked with that was smarter than me lol
Maybe the biggest douchebag ever. Even John Burns tried to choke him out.
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Post by: jupiter on June 26, 2024, 03:29:46 PM
Buddy Gilmour
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Post by: Parked on June 26, 2024, 03:50:17 PM
Clint Hodgins, he could hang one up, keep them sound and drive with the best…. 
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Post by: Gaagoots on June 26, 2024, 05:55:54 PM
brad maxwell only guy i ever worked with that was smarter than me lol
Brad is a total narcissist. Burns couldn’t stomach him he kissed all the right asses to get where he is. The ultimate bullshit artist.
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Post by: PIGLAND on June 26, 2024, 06:02:26 PM
Josh Marks
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Post by: Calhoun on June 26, 2024, 06:37:37 PM
Fred Cottingim
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Post by: Angelo Bralles on June 26, 2024, 06:51:42 PM
Mike Sabatka and Jack Beelby
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Post by: Wild bull on June 26, 2024, 07:17:50 PM
Larry stalbaum you guys can say it's the juice but work for him a week and you'll learn more that week then in a lifetime anywhere else
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Post by: drink more beer on June 26, 2024, 08:27:42 PM
Larry stalbaum
Roger edwards
 
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Post by: Lance on June 26, 2024, 09:06:42 PM
Greg Peck
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Post by: Mbdreamer on June 26, 2024, 09:30:14 PM
Peter Blood
Same here (another Mainah)!
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Post by: rainman2 on June 26, 2024, 10:06:55 PM
The 'Rifleman' Chuck Connor Jr.
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Post by: carl baldwin on June 26, 2024, 11:20:10 PM
Dan Allison
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 26, 2024, 11:43:51 PM
Jimmy Cruise
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Post by: Ramnap on June 27, 2024, 06:04:06 AM
So simple Robert Belcher
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Post by: The Exporter on June 27, 2024, 06:57:23 AM
Jimmy Cruise
If that was not a privilege and an honor, what was?
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Post by: Way to go on June 27, 2024, 09:33:02 AM
Who is the worst?
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 27, 2024, 10:10:32 AM
If that was not a privilege and an honor, what was?
I still have his recipe for his leg tightener.
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Post by: Janny on June 27, 2024, 12:06:45 PM
Jay Sears
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Post by: old guy on June 27, 2024, 01:00:58 PM
Fred Bradbury
Jimmy Cruise
Buddy Gilmour
Alan Myer
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Post by: rainman2 on June 27, 2024, 01:57:27 PM
Who is the worst?

Too many decades to choose from!!!
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Post by: White Rabbit on June 27, 2024, 04:13:10 PM
Larry stalbaum
Roger edwards
Whatever happened to Roger’s son Pat. I raced with him at SportsCreek
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 27, 2024, 04:30:36 PM
Fred Bradbury
Jimmy Cruise
Buddy Gilmour
Alan Myer
I have a couple of Fred's recipes for tightener and sweat.
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Post by: remington on June 27, 2024, 07:13:35 PM
Harold Story
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Post by: carl baldwin on June 27, 2024, 07:32:19 PM
Dan Allison
Also Al Weigel
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Post by: Crash on June 27, 2024, 07:35:04 PM
Carl Allen
Joe Holloway
Doug Ackerman
Frank Omara
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Post by: Yonkers1A on June 27, 2024, 07:57:54 PM
Josh Marks

I agree, I’m changing my vote to Josh
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Post by: Bitter Truth on June 27, 2024, 08:00:52 PM
I see your rule of one choice per customer has been ignored Balmoralfan. Big surprise. ;D
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Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 27, 2024, 09:20:15 PM
Pete Wathen Sr   rip
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Post by: Wild bull on June 28, 2024, 02:12:48 AM
I have a couple of Fred's recipes for tightener and sweat.
.   Good for you asshole now go drink a few gallons of it
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 28, 2024, 02:38:03 AM
Larry stalbaum you guys can say it's the juice but work for him a week and you'll learn more that week then in a lifetime anywhere else
If Stalbaum is the best you know, that says more about you than him dick breath. He's been thrown out of every track he's ever raced at. BTW..When are you going to get that coat hanger removed from your head?
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Post by: The Exporter on June 28, 2024, 07:02:44 AM
Fred Bradbury mentioned twice. I am surprised. Not by Fred's skill and knowledge but to be the best someone ever knew. I met Fred in 1977 in Aiken, SC. He was long past his prime and working as the track superintendent. Fred was special person to me. He took his time and always came by to see how I was doing. Many people were judgmental of Fred. They would have nothing good to say about his habits and demons. But, everyone would end the conversation with, "despite all that, he is one hell of a hosemen".
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Post by: Wild bull on June 28, 2024, 07:32:29 AM
If Stalbaum is the best you know, that says more about you than him dick breath. He's been thrown out of every track he's ever raced at. BTW..When are you going to get that coat hanger removed from your head?
.  Larry has probably forgotten more than you'll ever know cuntbag yes he's been kicked out of places but it's been awhile and he's still making money hell I bet his daughter has made more in this business than you dummy
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Post by: rainman2 on June 28, 2024, 08:22:27 PM
.  Larry has probably forgotten more than you'll ever know cuntbag yes he's been kicked out of places but it's been awhile and he's still making money hell I bet his daughter has made more in this business than you dummy

Correct. I asked a Saratoga trainer that a while ago. The only thing Larry does he that he has his own “special feed”program. Watch how his horses race in cycles. At least Larry isn’t afraid to drive one compared to some others in the business.
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Post by: kooter for hipin on June 28, 2024, 08:56:51 PM
Jimmy Cruise



Frank T Ace.....Jimmy Cruise       
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 28, 2024, 11:05:39 PM


Frank T Ace.....Jimmy Cruise       
Nice horse. Was sub 2:00 when it was special.
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Post by: kooter for hipin on June 28, 2024, 11:48:47 PM
Nice horse. Was sub 2:00 when it was special.


Owned by Saul Finklestone et al.  I think.  That was my era at Roosevelt and Yonkers.
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 28, 2024, 11:54:17 PM

Owned by Saul Finklestone et al.  I think.  That was my era at Roosevelt and Yonkers.
Well, then you are in your mid 70's like me.
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Post by: wizardofoz on June 29, 2024, 12:01:49 AM
William "Bib" Roberts knows his onions!
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Post by: Sam R on June 29, 2024, 11:50:57 AM
Larry Stahlbaum is pretty good in my book. As a driver he can tell you something after a race.
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Post by: tumbleweed on June 29, 2024, 11:55:16 AM
Correct. I asked a Saratoga trainer that a while ago. The only thing Larry does he that he has his own “special feed”program. Watch how his horses race in cycles. At least Larry isn’t afraid to drive one compared to some others in the business.
Also helps that his biggest owner is a well respected vet.
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Post by: hoosierboy on June 29, 2024, 12:45:19 PM
Tony Morgan
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Post by: kooter for hipin on June 29, 2024, 06:11:14 PM
Well, then you are in your mid 70's like me.

78 and of the same mind!       tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Post by: freshlasix on June 29, 2024, 06:20:12 PM




Joe Nap., George and Anthony's Father. Gone way to early. RIP.
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Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on June 29, 2024, 06:52:28 PM
78 and of the same mind!       tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
tmbz1 tmbz1
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Post by: Pockets on June 29, 2024, 11:36:11 PM
Work for Kevinmcmaster in early two thousands second to none
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Post by: Vince Treanor on June 30, 2024, 11:07:27 AM
Bill Mott by one hundred lengths.
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Post by: rainman2 on June 30, 2024, 02:14:59 PM



Joe Nap., George and Anthony's Father. Gone way to early. RIP.

I see you didn’t attend pompano about 20 years ago. Rumor has it that Joe Nap had the “crude” version of ‘chemical improvement’.
I actually met George Sr.  Very nice man.
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Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on June 30, 2024, 06:15:44 PM
It's a tie...Brett Pelling and Gene Riegle.
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Post by: Lar4400 on June 30, 2024, 07:38:05 PM
Charlie Fitzpatrick
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Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on June 30, 2024, 07:44:42 PM
Watched Frank Omara / Hilda hydht and Herve Filion discuss shoeing at Sportsman’s park .
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Post by: makingit on June 30, 2024, 07:49:10 PM
Stanley Dancer Gave me an autographed photo of him and Cardigan Bay winning at Yonkers and then invited me down to Egyptian Acres for a guided tour.
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Post by: Cleanupindustry on June 30, 2024, 07:52:16 PM
Hahaha someone said Tony Morgan.  Hahaha the guy who pre races all Christopher temming’s horses yeah right Tony morgan
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Post by: Gaagoots on July 02, 2024, 10:16:41 AM
SCM
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Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 02, 2024, 11:08:07 AM
Hahaha someone said Tony Morgan.  Hahaha the guy who pre races all Christopher temming’s horses yeah right Tony morgan

If you had any direct contact with the man, you know you just made an idiot out of yourself with that statement.
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Post by: wiseowl on July 02, 2024, 11:58:47 AM
Stanley Dancer was at his time the best.
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Post by: Wild bull on July 02, 2024, 12:17:36 PM
Hahaha someone said Tony Morgan.  Hahaha the guy who pre races all Christopher temming’s horses yeah right Tony morgan
.  Although the brown stain is just that if you think he's not a great trainer just proves you have no clue he can vet/shoe/medicate he's just a very horrible human which is why he don't get mentioned alot in the best of conversation
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Post by: Southpaw on July 03, 2024, 09:21:36 PM
A little Del Miller trivia.
His colors were brown and gold(Shit and straw),
Anyone know were they came from?

R J Reynolds tobacco
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Post by: Meadow Ford on July 04, 2024, 08:32:50 AM
R J Reynolds tobacco
Yes
 The colors of a Camel Cigarette Package.
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