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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: samstar on June 19, 2024, 07:37:58 AM
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Has two for sale on On Gait. I advise extreme caution.
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Damn Sammy he must of took you for heck of a ride!
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Damn Sammy he must of took you for heck of a ride!
Bill learned the hard way.
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Bought one from Rob Fellows a couple of weeks ago and the horse came exactly as described. No bullshit just facts. Most trainers I have dealt with over the years have been pretty honest,
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Erv has never had an outstanding reputation. You should have forced the issue for a refund or sued his ass!
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Your a FUCKIN IDIOT
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SUR HIM LMFAO
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Bought one from Rob Fellows a couple of weeks ago and the horse came exactly as described. No bullshit just facts. Most trainers I have dealt with over the years have been pretty honest,
Interesting. So was Rob listed on trainer of the horse or was it Kyle because he was suspended or maybe it was back to Rob after Kyle got a positive. Great family to speak highly of
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[quote author=Harness racer link=topic=77789.msg1164351#msg1164351 date=
You should have forced the issue for a refund or sued his ass!
Your a FUCKIN IDIOT
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SUR HIM LMFAO
Yeah, you're a good one..He sure took you for one hell of a ride! Right out of the barn!
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Yeah, you're a good one..He sure took you for one hell of a ride! Right out of the barn!
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One good stud erv has had? NONE they were all drug horses. One good broodmare? NONE How many he train each yr? 150-180? Yea he's definitely HOF caliber. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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All Samstar said was be cautious, he's actually doing people a service. Just do your due diligence. Ya should be saying thanks
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Erv has always been shady. Those pictures on those horses look like they were taken in Florida six months ago. Its sad because Erv doesnt have to do what he does and screw people. Its one thing to sell a horse and maybe not say he was lame here or lame there and we constantly did vet work to keep the horse going. But come on Erv, to put up old pictures of a different horse is altogether fraud. You know who I blame? ONGAIT because eric cherry and Maurice are in on the scam with Erv. Why else would they allow a crook to screw people over and then pretend like they dont shit. Its just plain wrong. ONGAIT and Erv should both be in jail.
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FRAUD
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Will you guys give this shit a fucking break some stupid motherfucker didn’t do his homework bought horse on Gait and he’s been crying ever since stop fucking crying like a little Cunt and move the fuck on you bought a bad horse everybody does it I do it everybody does it stop crying like a little fucking Cunt and move the fuck on
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Will you guys give this shit a fucking break some stupid motherfucker didn’t do his homework bought horse on Gait and he’s been crying ever since stop fucking crying like a little Cunt and move the fuck on you bought a bad horse everybody does it I do it everybody does it stop crying like a little fucking Cunt and move the fuck on
But he is making sure others do their homework!
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But he is making sure others do their homework!
He’s a crybaby
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Erv has always been shady. Those pictures on those horses look like they were taken in Florida six months ago. Its sad because Erv doesnt have to do what he does and screw people. Its one thing to sell a horse and maybe not say he was lame here or lame there and we constantly did vet work to keep the horse going. But come on Erv, to put up old pictures of a different horse is altogether fraud. You know who I blame? ONGAIT because eric cherry and Maurice are in on the scam with Erv. Why else would they allow a crook to screw people over and then pretend like they dont shit. Its just plain wrong. ONGAIT and Erv should both be in jail.
Exactly- word on the street is Cherry is unloading shares of Ongait to people. Must be in money troubles?
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But he is making sure others do their homework!
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THIS INDUSTRY NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME. THE SMALL OWNER/TRAINER HAS HIS LICENSE SUSPENDED IF HE CANNOT PAY A BLACKSMITH OR A TACK BILL BUT THINGS LIKE THIS OCCUR EVERYDAY WITH NO RECOURSE.....TRUT HFULLY, THIS FELLA WHO SOLD THE LAME HORSE WITH OLD PHOTOS (IF TRUE) SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND BARRED. THERE IS A VICTIM SO THERE IS POTENTIALLY A CRIME.
I WILL NEVER FIGURE OUT NOR IS IT MY PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED HAS IT HAS THRU THE YEARS. THE LITTLE HONEST OWNER/TRAINER DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
NOT SURE WHAT THE PRICE WAS ON THE HORSE THAT WAS SOLD ON YEAR OLD PHOTOS BUT THAT IS FRAUD AND THAT IS CRIMINAL ADDITIONALLY, IF IT WAS ACROSS STATE LINES THIS IS AN FBI MATTER AND THEY WILL IN FACT INVESTIGATE THIS IF IN FACT IT HAPPENED.
IN ORDER TO STOP THESE TYPES OF THINGS SOMEONE NEEDS TO PROSECUTE THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS TO THE FULLEST
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THIS INDUSTRY NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME. THE SMALL OWNER/TRAINER HAS HIS LICENSE SUSPENDED IF HE CANNOT PAY A BLACKSMITH OR A TACK BILL BUT THINGS LIKE THIS OCCUR EVERYDAY WITH NO RECOURSE.....TRUT HFULLY, THIS FELLA WHO SOLD THE LAME HORSE WITH OLD PHOTOS (IF TRUE) SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND BARRED. THERE IS A VICTIM SO THERE IS POTENTIALLY A CRIME.
I WILL NEVER FIGURE OUT NOR IS IT MY PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED HAS IT HAS THRU THE YEARS. THE LITTLE HONEST OWNER/TRAINER DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
NOT SURE WHAT THE PRICE WAS ON THE HORSE THAT WAS SOLD ON YEAR OLD PHOTOS BUT THAT IS FRAUD AND THAT IS CRIMINAL ADDITIONALLY, IF IT WAS ACROSS STATE LINES THIS IS AN FBI MATTER AND THEY WILL IN FACT INVESTIGATE THIS IF IN FACT IT HAPPENED.
IN ORDER TO STOP THESE TYPES OF THINGS SOMEONE NEEDS TO PROSECUTE THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS TO THE FULLEST
Counselor, You sound like a man that knows things and knows people. Why not help the sport and make a phone call to the proper authorities and tip them off about the said fraud.
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THIS INDUSTRY NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME. THE SMALL OWNER/TRAINER HAS HIS LICENSE SUSPENDED IF HE CANNOT PAY A BLACKSMITH OR A TACK BILL BUT THINGS LIKE THIS OCCUR EVERYDAY WITH NO RECOURSE.....TRUT HFULLY, THIS FELLA WHO SOLD THE LAME HORSE WITH OLD PHOTOS (IF TRUE) SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND BARRED. THERE IS A VICTIM SO THERE IS POTENTIALLY A CRIME.
I WILL NEVER FIGURE OUT NOR IS IT MY PLACE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED HAS IT HAS THRU THE YEARS. THE LITTLE HONEST OWNER/TRAINER DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
NOT SURE WHAT THE PRICE WAS ON THE HORSE THAT WAS SOLD ON YEAR OLD PHOTOS BUT THAT IS FRAUD AND THAT IS CRIMINAL ADDITIONALLY, IF IT WAS ACROSS STATE LINES THIS IS AN FBI MATTER AND THEY WILL IN FACT INVESTIGATE THIS IF IN FACT IT HAPPENED.
IN ORDER TO STOP THESE TYPES OF THINGS SOMEONE NEEDS TO PROSECUTE THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS TO THE FULLEST
That’s why ONGAIT and Erv need to be held accountable. One day someone is going to bust erv in the face.
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Always seems like since you're in the horse business its ok to fuk over your fellow horseman!
And an auction is just a place to do it!
Real world you pull a stunt like Erv did you wind up sleeping with Hoffa!
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Always seems like since you're in the horse business its ok to fuk over your fellow horseman!
And an auction is just a place to do it!
Real world you pull a stunt like Erv did you wind up sleeping with Hoffa!
100% truth. Erv might still get his karma. It’s coming
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100% truth. Erv might still get his karma. It’s coming
He did! Got Luc as an owner! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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He did! Got Luc as an owner! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
NOW THATS FUNNY 73cv.2 ;D
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He did! Got Luc as an owner! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
. Award for the best comment on this site ever
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Bad taste
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. Award for the best comment on this site ever
Thanks! tmbz1
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I still say ONGAIT is in on the rigging with Erv. Who else would allow a guy to ruin your business like that unless you were getting something in return
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I never liked Eric Cherry from day one. He was a shady guy then and he is a very shady guy today. Eric was a LI guy with a big mouth and hung around the NY tracks a bit here and there before he moved to FL. He was kind of like that kid who was always trying to be cool and be part of the the cool crowd. He was a nobody. When he moved to FL he became an agent. He would schmooze and kiss up to big owners, their wives, etc., talk a big game, and was still a nobody. One thing he is not is stupid. He's not only smart, but shrewd. He started the National Harness Racing Hotline and did well with that. He had some strong tech connections and was always doing something with tech. No sour grapes here because he screwed over Sy Bonem on that deal.
Sure, he became a major owner, breeder, and force in the game today. To some he might come across as intelligent, well spoken, confident, etc. He has an audience because of his stature in the game. All that said, try and prove he's duplicitous and involved with a seller on misrepresenting photos, condition of a horse, etc., good luck with that. Try and find him liable for that, again good luck with that. He's completely insulated by the countless clauses, language, and the entire agreement for ongait and it's all caveat emptor...let the buyer beware. Period. Is he and ongait 100% legit? Absolutely not. But in this case, Erv did what Erv did and the buyer did not do all they could to protect themselves. Period. Lesson learned.
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I never liked Eric Cherry from day one. He was a shady guy then and he is a very shady guy today. Eric was a LI guy with a big mouth and hung around the NY tracks a bit here and there before he moved to FL. He was kind of like that kid who was always trying to be cool and be part of the the cool crowd. He was a nobody. When he moved to FL he became an agent. He would schmooze and kiss up to big owners, their wives, etc., talk a big game, and was still a nobody. One thing he is not is stupid. He's not only smart, but shrewd. He started the National Harness Racing Hotline and did well with that. He had some strong tech connections and was always doing something with tech. No sour grapes here because he screwed over Sy Bonem on that deal.
Sure, he became a major owner, breeder, and force in the game today. To some he might come across as intelligent, well spoken, confident, etc. He has an audience because of his stature in the game. All that said, try and prove he's duplicitous and involved with a seller on misrepresenting photos, condition of a horse, etc., good luck with that. Try and find him liable for that, again good luck with that. He's completely insulated by the countless clauses, language, and the entire agreement for ongait and it's all caveat emptor...let the buyer beware. Period. Is he and ongait 100% legit? Absolutely not. But in this case, Erv did what Erv did and the buyer did not do all they could to protect themselves. Period. Lesson learned.
You might be right but as long we keep warning people about ongait and Erv, the better off we’ll be. Even if we save one person because of exposing these frauds then it’s well worth. It’s why thieves like this hate horseplop because they cannot control this9 forum. It’s one reason I thank God for pig;and because he lets us say what we have to say. Thanks piggy 🐷
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Erv has another one for sale on ON Gait today. Please use extreme caution in buying from Erv. I hate to see people get burned!
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its really pretty easy...if Erv doesnt need the horse in his barn, you really don't need the critter in your barn..cuz if he cannot get him off his knee's, stop bleeding or go faster, chances are slim to none that you will be able to improve the horse.
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its really pretty easy...if Erv doesnt need the horse in his barn, you really don't need the critter in your barn..cuz if he cannot get him off his knee's, stop bleeding or go faster, chances are slim to none that you will be able to improve the horse.
Exactly tmbz1
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its really pretty easy...if Erv doesnt need the horse in his barn, you really don't need the critter in your barn..cuz if he cannot get him off his knee's, stop bleeding or go faster, chances are slim to none that you will be able to improve the horse.
True but also be careful cause Tyler George got rollin rosie off Erv. And for sure if Erv puts one on ongait he put up pictures from months ago when the horse has good legs. He doesn’t put up current or recent pics on any of his horses
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Erv has another one for sale on ON Gait today. Please use extreme caution in buying from Erv. I hate to see people get burned!
U still crying like a little BITCH ngc3 ngc3
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U still crying like a little BITCH ngc3 ngc3
Erv loves Luke..Said he's the only person that can scratch Irv's balls without bending over!
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