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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Chips N Salsa on June 15, 2024, 09:04:28 PM
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Highland Kismet is an absolute creature!
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Highland Kismet is an absolute creature!
I agree. He'd give Karl a run for his money right now.
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Don't want to jinx him but I've never ever seen a trotting colt with so much easy speed. And his manners are absurdly good. Took my breath away.
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Yep, that some performance.
For starters, he will destroy TCI.
IMO Karl has more speed but it looks like this guy can be disadvantaged and cover extra ground and win in a jog.
Going to be interesting to say the least.
I am sure Nancy will be a little worried.
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Yep, that some performance.
For starters, he will destroy TCI.
IMO Karl has more speed but it looks like this guy can be disadvantaged and cover extra ground and win in a jog.
Going to be interesting to say the least.
I am sure Nancy will be a little worried.
I think his handiness is the biggest differentiator. Karl is probably faster but it's hard to argue with 26.4 on the end in an absolute jog. And I think if Karl goes through the first quarter that horse does, he doesn't handle it nearly as well. Not that he's hot, just not as square-gaited as this one. Kismet colt gapped the gate, 4-wide in first turn, hit the front and sat there as quiet as an old amateur horse.
Looks to be one the nicer 3yo colt trot crops we've had in a while.
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I think his handiness is the biggest differentiator. Karl is probably faster but it's hard to argue with 26.4 on the end in an absolute jog. And I think if Karl goes through the first quarter that horse does, he doesn't handle it nearly as well. Not that he's hot, just not as square-gaited as this one. Kismet colt gapped the gate, 4-wide in first turn, hit the front and sat there as quiet as an old amateur horse.
Looks to be one the nicer 3yo colt trot crops we've had in a while.
Yeah, that's a pretty good assessment. To do that after only 4 starts.
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karl needs a driver
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karl needs a driver
Agreed 👍
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If this colt is half the horse you guys are making him out to be, McClure should be hung from the rafters by the bettors after getting this colt beat in a NWs of 2 a few weeks ago. TCI is fucking terrible but at least he’s only lost to Karl.
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Canadian colt outstanding
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Karl will end his career being the greatest trotter ever.
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You are all nuts. No chance he gets to Karl
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Karl will end his career being the greatest trotter ever.
zero chance of that. Muscle Hill only lost one race and that was his first and planned. Complete baphoon trained him and he was absolute monster on the track and in the breeding shed. Karl has Jimmy poking on him every day and never looks 100% sound. He was bobbly last year and Yannick is driving him very cautiously this yr. Go look at his last race when Ake rushed him. Yannick couldn't go to the stick because he was holding him together. Every driver in the race seen in and knows he is vulnerable.
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zero chance of that. Muscle Hill only lost one race and that was his first and planned. Complete baphoon trained him and he was absolute monster on the track and in the breeding shed. Karl has Jimmy poking on him every day and never looks 100% sound. He was bobbly last year and Yannick is driving him very cautiously this yr. Go look at his last race when Ake rushed him. Yannick couldn't go to the stick because he was holding him together. Every driver in the race seen in and knows he is vulnerable.
He may be the fastest thing I have ever seen, but you are correct. He's rarely, if ever, looked 100%.
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zero chance of that. Muscle Hill only lost one race and that was his first and planned. Complete baphoon trained him and he was absolute monster on the track and in the breeding shed. Karl has Jimmy poking on him every day and never looks 100% sound. He was bobbly last year and Yannick is driving him very cautiously this yr. Go look at his last race when Ake rushed him. Yannick couldn't go to the stick because he was holding him together. Every driver in the race seen in and knows he is vulnerable.
I don't disagree. He's for sure bobbly. But he's a freak show monster. The Canadian horse will be in trouble
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Karl will end his career being the greatest trotter ever.
Yep and can you imagine these 3 racing at the Red Mile. Karl would be able to go 1:48 IMO and obliterate the WR
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Yep and can you imagine these 3 racing at the Red Mile. Karl would be able to go 1:48 IMO and obliterate the WR
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IMO Karl is fast because he has a hairline crack behind or something that is bothering him behind. When this happens horses will run away from the pain. I have seen it before but as they say "speed kills" and it's on a matter of time before he tips over. Yannick can't drive him and push him hard because he will run like a dear. If he runs before Hambo I doubt you will ever see him race again. There very hush hush about him and they are protecting him.
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McClure stated that the horse had gait problems & didn't race at two. He purposely gaps the gate. It will be interesting if Highland Kismet meets up with Karl & TCI. He has never faced that type of competition. I was impressed last night. You still have to step up against the best before I label you a top one.
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I watched a $100,000 race at Vernon last Friday. Ake was a jogburger !,! Yes I know you guys are talking a 48 mile and this one went in 52 but he was never asked. Ake is one of the very best at having one ready . SITUATIONSHIP.
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McClure stated that the horse had gait problems & didn't race at two.
Trainer change in January of this year. Mark Etsell has probably established himself as a premier trotting trainer.
Of course Etsell has significant drawbacks - he's honest and modest and puts horse welfare first. Doomed.
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Don’t see it . Not say he’s not a very nice horse but Karl just looks incredible
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IMO Karl is fast because he has a hairline crack behind or something that is bothering him behind. When this happens horses will run away from the pain. I have seen it before but as they say "speed kills" and it's on a matter of time before he tips over. Yannick can't drive him and push him hard because he will run like a dear. If he runs before Hambo I doubt you will ever see him race again. There very hush hush about him and they are protecting him.
In fairness Miguel, where else would he have been raced if he is 100% sound? I hear what you are saying, however. I think gungras is elite. Would you go to Dave Miller at this stage? Interesting question imo
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In fairness Miguel, where else would he have been raced if he is 100% sound? I hear what you are saying, however. I think gungras is elite. Would you go to Dave Miller at this stage? Interesting question imo
I believe that Miller is committed to TCI.
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In fairness Miguel, where else would he have been raced if he is 100% sound? I hear what you are saying, however. I think gungras is elite. Would you go to Dave Miller at this stage? Interesting question imo
I would let Jimmy T drive him before Yannick. Do you know Yannick has lost hambo with 6-7 Favorites? He is the worst driver in harness history when the purse is 1M or more. He is 1-40ish and the year he did win the NA Cup was covid year and no drivers were there except him so does that even count? I wouldn't want my great trotter in his hands that;s for sure.
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I would let Jimmy T drive him before Yannick. Do you know Yannick has lost hambo with 6-7 Favorites? He is the worst driver in harness history when the purse is 1M or more. He is 1-40ish and the year he did win the NA Cup was covid year and no drivers were there except him so does that even count? I wouldn't want my great trotter in his hands that;s for sure.
He's been pretty good in the hambo oaks, no?
I didn't know Dave Miller was already committed and don't disagree. If it were me, I'd replace him. Doesn't feel like a good match
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How do you replace a driver who has won 12 out of 13 with 1 2nd place loss by a nose?
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He's been pretty good in the hambo oaks, no?
I didn't know Dave Miller was already committed and don't disagree. If it were me, I'd replace him. Doesn't feel like a good match
I don't love Yannick.
You don't get to a level like he has reached by happenstance. He is an excellent driver. He drives a horse that responds to an aggressive drive especially well. Obviously he can get a young horse around pretty well, too.
I think there are horses that can be improved by a certain type of driver, though, and I just don't think YG is that driver in this particular case.
Though I am not sure that's the real concern. Of the three colts we're discussing (TCI; Karl;..now, Kismet), Karl seems both the most talented, and the most fragile. I am really looking forward to the rest of the summer.
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I don't love Yannick.
You don't get to a level like he has reached by happenstance. He is an excellent driver. He drives a horse that responds to an aggressive drive especially well. Obviously he can get a young horse around pretty well, too.
I think there are horses that can be improved by a certain type of driver, though, and I just don't think YG is that driver in this particular case.
Though I am not sure that's the real concern. Of the three colts we're discussing (TCI; Karl;..now, Kismet), Karl seems both the most talented, and the most fragile. I am really looking forward to the rest of the summer.
I completely agree.
To add. Guys like Yannick are great for the sport. He's drives to win. Every race. Can't say that about nearly anyone else.
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karl needs a driver
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Rumor has it you are a blacksmith. Are you a driver too?
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I completely agree.
To add. Guys like Yannick are great for the sport. He's drives to win. Every race. Can't say that about nearly anyone else.
Yep. You're not wrong. A portion of what's wrong with this sport is what you're talking about.
But he has also gotten good horses beat this way, too. He's used horses hard when there was no need.
He is just not the choice I would make in this case, but I'll reiterate, I don't think this horse's potential issues are going to be YG's fault.