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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Deadbeat on June 01, 2024, 01:01:56 PM
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Has anyone ever done well buying a horse off of Erv Miller?
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YE S
SOLD MCWICKED FOR 500K HORSE MADE 7 MILLION...
ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS
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And when did he have mcwicked? Nor did he clear a total of 5 million... much less 7
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Western Shore was bought off Erv for 500k. Made it back but wasn't the top echelon colt they thought they were getting.
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And when did he have mcwicked? Nor did he clear a total of 5 million... much less 7
https://winbakfarm.com/stallions_detail.asp?id=50
That is before his stud fees
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Ryder bought a trotting filly off him years ago for $35k. Made almost a million. Mystical Sunshine. I think was her name
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And when did he have mcwicked? Nor did he clear a total of 5 million... much less 7
HE HAD HIM AS A 2 YR OLD,,LOOK IT UP,
PLS REFRAIN FROM POSTING THKS
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Julie miller had him as a 2 year old. Please refrain from attempting to be intelligent
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YE S
SOLD MCWICKED FOR 500K HORSE MADE 7 MILLION...
ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS
I have a stupid question...where did you get your information as everything is wrong. It amazes me that when facts can be easily checked you make up information. In fact the USTA shows McWicked making 4.9M...pretty sure that's the number I saw
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I think I bought a shoe fly pie off of him once
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lol @Lucpark
Stupid question? How about stupid answer!
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Wow- that was a dumb answer.
What was dumb about it? The fact that it is reality?)
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Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt.
Bred by Andray Farm, McWicked was purchased for $35,000 out of the 2012 Harrisburg Yearling Sale by the Andy Miller Stable, Paymaq Racing and Hannah Miller. At two, racing under the tutelage of trainer Julie Miller, he would amass three wins and $179,617 in 10 starts before being entered in the Harrisburg Mixed Sale.
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Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt.
Bred by Andray Farm, McWicked was purchased for $35,000 out of the 2012 Harrisburg Yearling Sale by the Andy Miller Stable, Paymaq Racing and Hannah Miller. At two, racing under the tutelage of trainer Julie Miller, he would amass three wins and $179,617 in 10 starts before being entered in the Harrisburg Mixed Sale.
Well, Rocco was half right. It was a Miller, lol.
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BIG BIG BIG difference between Julie /Andy Miller and Erv. Just saying.
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Julie miller had him as a 2 year old. Please refrain from attempting to be intelligent
ngc3
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Julie miller had him as a 2 year old. Please refrain from attempting to be intelligent
BURN... Thanks for slamming LucPark to the ground. He don't no shit about McWicked
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Erv owned the horse
I’m telling u guys
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You would have to be brain dead to buy off of Erv Miller unless you had reliable inside information. He defrauded me by posting year old leg pictures of a horse he posted on On Gait. My purchase will need a full year off before he has a shot of coming back. I don't blame On Gait but if I was a sale company I would refuse ERVs entries to protect my clients and reputation.
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Erv has on for sale Sunday on On Gait. I would not bid on one of his horses unless I had inspected and vetted the animal. There are many honest horsemen and I would not put Erv in that bracket. A word to the wise!!!!
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You would have to be brain dead to buy off of Erv Miller unless you had reliable inside information. He defrauded me by posting year old leg pictures of a horse he posted on On Gait. My purchase will need a full year off before he has a shot of coming back. I don't blame On Gait but if I was a sale company I would refuse ERVs entries to protect my clients and reputation.
OMG ARE U STILL FCKIN CRYIN tmbz1
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Erv owned the horse
I’m telling u guys
I thought it was illegal to be a blind owner...maybe you should call the racing commission and let them know the facts as it would be interesting to see what happens but either you are lying or not willing to do the right thing..which is it
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Julie miller had him as a 2 year old. Please refrain from attempting to be intelligent
julie and andy with tyler owning a piece and he was 300k at harrisburg
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You would have to be brain dead to buy off of Erv Miller unless you had reliable inside information. He defrauded me by posting year old leg pictures of a horse he posted on On Gait. My purchase will need a full year off before he has a shot of coming back. I don't blame On Gait but if I was a sale company I would refuse ERVs entries to protect my clients and reputation.
You think ongait cares? ngc3 ngc3 That's the biggest fraud site on the web. Anyone spending big money on that site has zero brains because you are overpaying and getting run up as it's inside job!
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I’m almost certain Casie trained the horse at 3.
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YE S
SOLD MCWICKED FOR 500K HORSE MADE 7 MILLION...
ANY OTHER STUPID QUESTIONS
UP ERV'S ASS MUCH? Or not enough?
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Erv sounds like an upstanding guy. The dunkards sometimes get corrupted once out among the English.
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You would have to be brain dead to buy off of Erv Miller unless you had reliable inside information. He defrauded me by posting year old leg pictures of a horse he posted on On Gait. My purchase will need a full year off before he has a shot of coming back. I don't blame On Gait but if I was a sale company I would refuse ERVs entries to protect my clients and reputation.
You would have to be brain dead to buy anything off individual over the internet without looking at if first.
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I’m almost certain Casie trained the horse at 3.
She did
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6/30/2013-Julie Miller
7/9/2013-Julie Miller
7/17/2013-Julie Miller
9/4/2013-Julie Miller
8/13/2013-Julie Miller
8/30/2013-Julie Miller
9/15/2013-Julie Miller
9/23/2013-Julie Miller
11/10/2013-Julie Miller
11/17/2013-Julie Miller (all 2013 with ownership of Andy Miller Stable Inc., Paymaq Racing, Hannah Miller)
5/11/2014 (first race of 2014) Casie Coleman (with ownership of SSG Stables and that is the way it stayed through all of 2014 and 2015)
In 2016 same ownership but listed trainer is Steve Elliott (short season)]
2/12/2017-Pompano-Jim McDonald listed trainer (same ownership)
3/11/2017-Yonkers-Steve Elliott
4/22/2017-Steve Elliott still trainer, but owner now: Edward D. James, ON, CA
6/3/2017-Switches to SSG owner and Casie Coleman as trainer
6/24/2017-back to Edward D. James as owner??
7/82017-back to SSG
8/11/2017-back to Edward D. James ??
8/26/2017-back to SSG (looks like when they raced in the U.S. it was registered to James for ownership and when they raced in Canada it was SSG)
11/25/2017-raced at Meadowlands and used SSG (first time in states for quite a while)
Stayed that way through end of 2019 season.
This is what the ownership read on the official programs!!!
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no luck at all.Spoke to Irv directly. Asked why the horse he was selling seemed to be running in on the turns, Said "the driver just got his license" "He's perfectly sound" Asked any issues. Said none. I was cautious. Someone else bought the horse and couldn't get around even 5/8 turns. Raced 4 times and then the horse disappeared. OUCH!!!!
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would you buy a used car without taking it for a test drive or at the very least seeing it in person ??
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I was in the car business for many years and I bought cars on auctions from hundreds of miles away. I bought off people who I felt were honest and seldom got burned. I just bought a mare on preferred after talking with trainer and owner. I think they were pretty straight with me and I am looking forward to doing OK with her.
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IF YOU ARE INTO GAMES OF CHANCE LIKE RUSSIAN ROULETTE FOR EXAMPLE, ERV MILLER HAS ANOTHER ONE FOR SALE ON ON GAIT TOMORROW (TUESDAY) PUT FIVE IN THE GUN, SPIN THE WHEEL AND PULL THE TRIGGER.
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It's always buyer beware. I knew a guy who liked one of his horses. He was not happy when a drug trainer claimed him. The guy always said never claim a horse off of this guy. Four months later the horse was on a downward spiral & back in for the same claiming tag. The horse was claimed back. Less than a month later the horse was lame. It missed four or five months. The horse was never the same & worth 60 % of the claiming price. He should have stuck to his guns & never claimed off that trainer.
Sometimes you get burned & that is part of the business. You can't let feelings be involved or get hurt.
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Buyer beware is one thing. Being defrauded by the seller using old pictures is quite another.
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Buyer beware is one thing. Being defrauded by the seller using old pictures is quite another.
100% agree
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Always text when asking questions. Have the discipline to walk away when your questions go unanswered.
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would you buy a used car without taking it for a test drive or at the very least seeing it in person ??
Only a classic I knew I would dump more into