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Title: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Mrpick5 on May 18, 2024, 11:56:37 PM
You gotta love the “late” money. The 5 was 8/5 as the gate starts moving at the 1/4 pole 1/5. What a joke.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: toothman on May 19, 2024, 12:09:39 AM
You gotta love the “late” money. The 5 was 8/5 as the gate starts moving at the 1/4 pole 1/5. What a joke.

I am a casual M1 follower who only casually pays attention to betting patterns, but HOLY CRAP!!!! 30 THOUSAND TO WIN on the last flash! Whats going on here???
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: SeattleSlew on May 19, 2024, 06:38:19 AM
Bet $30K to win $6K?? However, the McCarthy exacta was a healthy number.  Looked like Gilmour and Webster reborn.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 10:50:27 AM
I am a casual M1 follower who only casually pays attention to betting patterns, but HOLY CRAP!!!! 30 THOUSAND TO WIN on the last flash! Whats going on here???

duh--betting after the bell from the Lexington hub
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: toothman on May 19, 2024, 11:28:16 AM
duh--betting after the bell from the Lexington hub

Who does it and how?
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 11:44:41 AM
Who does it and how?

They pay a large fee for this and have a live satellite feed, which is about 10 seconds after the rest of us have

it comes from Lexington

theredmilebets.co m
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Redacidsucks on May 19, 2024, 12:08:32 PM
The senditin army knows.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 19, 2024, 12:57:33 PM
Bet $30K to win $6K?? However, the McCarthy exacta was a healthy number.  Looked like Gilmour and Webster reborn.

It has been going on all year. Very large win bets late on favorites at last flash.

This one has gone too far. The Mccarthy brothers made it super obvious on the backside that something g was up. Very Very bad
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
It has been going on all year. Very large win bets late on favorites at last flash.

This one has gone too far. The Mccarthy brothers made it super obvious on the backside that something g was up. Very Very bad

all of those favorites had their nose on the gate then blasted out....if they break or lag behind the gate-their odds go up

no coincidence

if they


Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 19, 2024, 01:15:40 PM
The large wagers started at the meadowlands this year on obvious favorites. Some have lost but vast majority have won. The money does come in as typical CAW money does but this is different. Whoever is doing this is not betting like a CAW. It's almost always win money (last night there was no exacta money or tri or super) and it's always crushing their own odds down below an acceptable price.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 01:33:53 PM
The large wagers started at the meadowlands this year on obvious favorites. Some have lost but vast majority have won. The money does come in as typical CAW money does but this is different. Whoever is doing this is not betting like a CAW. It's almost always win money (last night there was no exacta money or tri or super) and it's always crushing their own odds down below an acceptable price.

whoever is doing it--they are receiving a massive rebate..so getting $2.10 to win on horses like Karl are palatable

they receive more on the rebate than the 5% to win

explains why you see so many $2.10 to win payoffs these days--it wasnt like this 25 or more years ago
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 19, 2024, 01:43:37 PM
whoever is doing it--they are receiving a massive rebate..so getting $2.10 to win on horses like Karl are palatable

they receive more on the rebate than the 5% to win

explains why you see so many $2.10 to win payoffs these days--it wasnt like this 25 or more years ago

Yes. I believe the rebate is large in this situation and then it would make most sense that it is coming from the host site (meadowlands themselves) as they could afford the highest rebate.
Most concerning was one brother grabbing in HARD to allow the other brother an easy release.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: PucksnHorses on May 19, 2024, 01:56:57 PM
The McCarthy brothers are sketchy at best. Not just that race, so many races one of them will be a huge fav and a standout and somehow get a bad trip but rally late to finish 2nd to the other McCarthy who was a much better price. They don't hide it after the race either, you see them talking and smiling right after the wire. I also think they tell Jessica Otten, as she always seems to nail her price play and it is almost always on a McCarthy horse. Even if it isn't true, it is such a bad look.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 02:10:18 PM
The McCarthy brothers are sketchy at best. Not just that race, so many races one of them will be a huge fav and a standout and somehow get a bad trip but rally late to finish 2nd to the other McCarthy who was a much better price. They don't hide it after the race either, you see them talking and smiling right after the wire. I also think they tell Jessica Otten, as she always seems to nail her price play and it is almost always on a McCarthy horse. Even if it isn't true, it is such a bad look.

they do exactly as you say at Mohawk also
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on May 19, 2024, 03:39:55 PM
The money that came in on that horse was crazy. The notorious blast guys at yonkers both grabbing the 1 and 2 not that it mattered. Anyone who bet 200 hundred on the 5 and got back beer and hotdog money crazy.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on May 19, 2024, 03:43:18 PM
Data check it was actually 32, 457 .00 to win after the bell. Was in the pool just past the quarter pole.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 03:52:44 PM
Data check it was actually 32, 457 .00 to win after the bell. Was in the pool just past the quarter pole.

they wanted to be sure the horse was forwardly placed, after they see what occurs at the start-then the bets go in

they have access to the pools after the bell and it isnt even a question, its a fact
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Stan durbread on May 19, 2024, 04:15:35 PM
They pay a large fee for this and have a live satellite feed, which is about 10 seconds after the rest of us have

it comes from Lexington

theredmilebets.co m

Guess all you whiners should get an account there. That would solve the issues.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 04:17:08 PM
Guess all you whiners should get an account there. That would solve the issues.

you have to be onsite and pay a fee ding dong
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on May 19, 2024, 04:36:10 PM
Havent hear neither a mention of this from Dave or Jessica . They know whats going on no doubt. Jessica loves picking Toddy on her best bets .
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 19, 2024, 04:47:03 PM
Havent hear neither a mention of this from Dave or Jessica . They know whats going on no doubt. Jessica loves picking Toddy on her best bets .

do you actually think they will discuss money flooding into the pools after the bell? ngc3
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: PucksnHorses on May 19, 2024, 06:16:56 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that Jessica gets info from the McCarthy's.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Kole Hanover on May 19, 2024, 06:30:36 PM
they wanted to be sure the horse was forwardly placed, after they see what occurs at the start-then the bets go in

they have access to the pools after the bell and it isnt even a question, its a fact

 Works much better on a tight half mile track

 Meadowlands it doesn't really matter who is leaving as long as yours get ls a good trip
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on May 19, 2024, 08:17:58 PM
Works much better on a tight half mile track

 Meadowlands it doesn't really matter who is leaving as long as yours get ls a good trip

These crazy large bets this year have all come on favorites but many of them were not horses on the front end. I think it is 1 actual person making these bets (not a computer) on various solid looking favorites. All bets have come in last flash. The neadowlands has been suspiciously tight lipped.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Stan durbread on May 19, 2024, 08:22:31 PM
The McCarthy brothers are sketchy at best. Not just that race, so many races one of them will be a huge fav and a standout and somehow get a bad trip but rally late to finish 2nd to the other McCarthy who was a much better price. They don't hide it after the race either, you see them talking and smiling right after the wire. I also think they tell Jessica Otten, as she always seems to nail her price play and it is almost always on a McCarthy horse. Even if it isn't true, it is such a bad look.
Maybe you should take her advice and bet
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Stan durbread on May 19, 2024, 08:25:17 PM
Havent hear neither a mention of this from Dave or Jessica . They know whats going on no doubt. Jessica loves picking Toddy on her best bets .

Todd is the best young driver out there. Why not pick him to make an improvement. Worked great last year on Hambo day. But I’m sure yall all think the other drivers set that up to cash a ticket
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: PucksnHorses on May 19, 2024, 08:27:16 PM
Maybe you should take her advice and bet

I actually do, that is why I know she is getting inside info. It is not every weekend though, it is usually after she had a bad week handicapping the week prior when she uses one of the McCarthy's as her best bet or price play or both. Todd is way better than Andrew, and I think Andrew is way more corrupt than Todd.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Stan durbread on May 19, 2024, 08:34:35 PM
I actually do, that is why I know she is getting inside info. It is not every weekend though, it is usually after she had a bad week handicapping the week prior when she uses one of the McCarthy's as her best bet or price play or both. Todd is way better than Andrew, and I think Andrew is way more corrupt than Todd.

Todd reminds me of John Campbell 30 years ago. Always in the right spot if they fire he wins
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: PucksnHorses on May 19, 2024, 08:37:14 PM
Todd reminds me of John Campbell 30 years ago. Always in the right spot if they fire he wins

I like Todd as a driver, but I just don't like what I see. All those grand circuit drivers are friends, so they all take turns and everyone makes money. I think there is a 3rd McCarthy on his way here soon as well. Maybe they can have all 3 in the same race with their pal Dunn, and throw in all the Millers, that would be a hoot.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: seen2much on May 19, 2024, 09:44:48 PM
It is crazy to bet like that in my opinion. The was tons the best & they sent it in.
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: harnessplop on May 20, 2024, 03:36:45 AM
Why not bet offshore...
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Papillon on May 20, 2024, 09:51:17 AM
Why not bet offshore...

because if you win they will ban you and you wont get paid

and they have limits on how much you can bet
Title: Re: Meadowlands race 14
Post by: Sunmoon 1219 on May 22, 2024, 10:35:11 AM
Start looking for the big chalk who can leave at the meds this week. See if they continue this stuff. One of these days they will bet   a trotter and he will blow up.
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